The watchtower society made several failed end times prophesies. Are Jehovah’s Witnesses moronic or something?
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There is a big difference between misguided and immature exegesis of prophecy or scripture and outright false prophecy. The later is an attempt to deceive by contradicting true prophecy and scripture.
They found a loophole by making their prophecies via a shell company
The accusation that Jehovah’s Witnesses have claimed to be inspired prophets or have tried to foretell the future is absolutely false.
The flat-out truth is that the Watchtower Society has NEVER claimed to be inspired, infallible, or to be foretelling the future as Prophets.
Rather, it is an irrefutable fact that Jehovah's Witnesses' very doctrine has ALWAYS been that the gifts of inspired prophesying and direct communication from God ceased after the Apostles died. This is a belief that has NEVER changed from their modern day inception as Bible Students to the present day. Therefore, any claim that Witnesses have claimed to be prophets can only be viewed as a misrepresentation of the facts.
At least one half of all biblical predictions have already been fulfilled precisely as God had declared. Because of God’s faithfulness in fulfilling these prophecies, we can be assured that He will fulfill the rest of the prophecies in Scripture without fault (see Numbers 23:19).
Imma be honest. This sounds like a huge cope
Everything that opposers of Jehovah's Witnesses believe to be so important really is comparatively inconsequential.
While Jehovah's Witnesses still adjust minor understandings of prophecy and periphery beliefs, major doctrines will not be changed because the doctrinal knowledge has increased so much that any recent changes have not been to doctrine but simple refinements in knowledge.
>literally says "the bible is true because the bible says it's true"
Actually moronic
There are both internal and external evidences that the Bible is truly God’s Word. Consider the following examples:
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/history/historical-accuracy-bible/
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/science/
You can find several failed end times prophesies in the Bible itself. You can infinitely reinterpret this shit.
>failed end times prophesies
Biblical prophecy is frequently conditional. IE the entire point of Jonah's message to Ninevah
It is worth noting that not all prophecies in the Bible are conditional. Some prophecies are given as absolute declarations of what will happen in the future, with no room for alteration or change.
They are cultists, and if they try to leave their cult, their family and community will shun them and they will be alone in this world. Thus, they cope psychologically to rationalize away all the blatantly moronic bullshit and failed prophecies. Because they don't really have a choice but to do so. It's quite sad.
Most other cults also do this btw, they aren't the only ones. It's a readily observable phenomenon.
Some people who oppose Jehovah's Witnesses have unfairly used the word 'cult' to describe them because it has a general negative connotation. They are counting on people who are not familiar with Jehovah's Witnesses to simply accept this false label at face value.
So are Jehovah's Witnesses really a cult? No. Jehovah's Witnesses are not a cult. Rather, they are Christians who do their best to follow the example set by Jesus Christ and to live by his teachings.
Everyone who's not a JW defines you as a cult. You fit all the criteria of a cult. You are in a cult, anon.
Cults are regarded as encouraging their adherents to live in groups apart from the rest of society. Many also think of cults as being secretive about their activities or having something to hide.
In contrast, Jehovah's Witnesses live and work in the midst of other people. They have nothing to hide. In fact, they desire to tell anyone who is willing to listen about everything that they believe.
So if you decided to leave your non-cult, you could still hang out with all the other JW with no issues, right? Frick outta here, loony toon.
If a baptized Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible’s moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned. Corinthians 5:13.
>the Bible’s moral code
Which watchtower decides arbitrarily
Jehovah's Witnesses base all of their beliefs, their standards for conduct, and organizational procedures on the Bible. Their worship is a way of life, not a ritual devotion.
Lara you're part of a cult. Everyone's been trying to tell you this for a while.
Far from being a dangerous cult, Jehovah’s Witnesses practice a religion that benefits themselves and others in the community.
For example, our ministry has helped many people to overcome harmful addictions, such as the abuse of drugs and alcohol.
In addition, we conduct literacy classes around the world, helping thousands learn to read and write. And we are actively involved in disaster relief.
We work hard to have a positive impact on others, just as Jesus commanded his followers to do.—Matthew 5:13-16.
>In addition, we conduct literacy classes around the world, helping thousands learn to read and write. And we are actively involved in disaster relief.
To trick poor hapless third worlders into joining your cult
Where we can check biblical claims against verifiable truth, the Bible proves itself accurate.
History, archaeology, science, and philosophy have shown Scripture to be factual and consistent. This correspondence between various forms of evidence is a major advantage the Bible has over the scriptures of any other faith system.
In many cases, it has been the deciding factor in converting skeptics and nonbelievers to faith in Christ.
Lara you should be reviewing these posts. This doesn't even respond to what I said
Cults often employ manipulative tactics to control and influence their members. Manipulation is a fundamental aspect of many cults' recruitment and retention strategies. Cult leaders and manipulative groups exploit psychological vulnerabilities and employ various techniques to gain power over individuals.
In contrast, Jehovah's Witnesses believe that there is historical and philosophical evidence supporting their beliefs, such as the historical reliability of the Bible, the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus, and philosophical arguments for the existence of God.
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>fails to bring up any of the distinctives of JW's over any other form of Christianity
Their not sending their best and brightest...
In a number of ways, we are different from other religious groups that are called Christian.
For example, we believe that the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Son of God, not part of a Trinity. (Mark 12:29) We do not believe that the soul is immortal, that there is any basis in Scripture for saying that God tortures people in an everlasting hell, or that those who take the lead in religious activities should have titles that elevate them above others.—Ecclesiastes 9:5; Ezekiel 18:4; Matthew 23:8-10.
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Don't JWs have to shun people who leave? Even when it's close family members?
How is that not cult like behavior?
Jehovah’s Witnesses follow what the bible teaches. Shunning unrepentant sinners is a process outlined in the bible.
Matthew 18:15–17
"Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, so that on the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector."
Jesus here outlines a process to be followed, “if your brother commits a sin.”
First, they should be approached directly. If they don’t listen take two or three witnesses to try and mediate the issue. If they don’t listen to them, “speak to the congregation.”
If they still do not listen, “let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.”
It is well known how israelites treated gentiles and tax collectors, namely having as little to do with them as possible.
Because they're expected to hang onto the every word of the WTS, who proceed to pin the blame on them for "jumping to conclusions" concerning when the world will end, even though the WTS was explicitly telling them that the world would end on x date and they have no room to disagree on it or they'll suffer consequences as says.
The people who stay are either conditioned to stay or are afraid to leave.
>t. former JW
For many Jehovah's Witnesses, their commitment is deeply rooted in their faith, spiritual beliefs, and personal experiences.
They find solace, guidance, and purpose in their religious practices and teachings. Their faith in Christianity provides them with a framework for understanding the world, their purpose in life, and their relationship with Jehovah God.
sunk cost
Solomon declared: “But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.” (Proverbs 4:18)
The truth gradually becomes clearer to us as we persist in studying the Scriptures patiently and diligently. The meaning or significance of Bible prophecies also unfolds progressively. Daniel's prophecy clearly said that true knowledge would "increase" during the time of the end (Dan. 12:4). Only at "the conclusion of the system of things" would "the righteous ones would then shine as brightly as the sun" (Mt.13:24- 30, 36-43; 24:45-47; Acts 3:20- 21).
Lara isn't it late in France? And why don't you make your own responses anymore? This is just cheap and spammy.
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It'd be pretty easy to fine tune openai to be a JW by feeding it large swathes of watchtower propaganda, all he'd have to do is feed it the message chain and fill in the captcha after pasting its response, and it would basically surpass the intelligence of the smartest JW, being able to regurgitate watchtower tracts with even less bullshittery than an actual JW. or it's a larp
The Bible not only encourages readers to examine their own beliefs (1 John 4:1), but it also commends those who check spiritual claims for truth (Acts 17:11).
The Bible makes claims on the basis of history and eyewitnesses (Luke 1:1–4; 2 Peter 1:16), connects belief to visible evidence (John 20:30–31), and ties biblical ideas to the observable world (Psalm 19:1; Romans 1). Jesus overtly claimed to represent an exclusive truth (John 18:37; 14:6).
So the Bible is clearly meant to be interpreted as true, and exclusively true (John 17:17).
Why do Catholics get such a bad rep when if we count per member JWs rape way more children? What is it about this cult that attracts so many pedos
Every last watchdog organization focused on the child abuse issue among Jehovah's Witnesses to date has proven to be full of lies and deceit without exception. There is more deceit going on in those organizations than they accuse the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses of. It has been found that the information on many of these sites to be simply deplorable. It is no wonder that news agencies have stopped listening to them.
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I can't think of any other Christian denomination where the official policy is to cut off contact with family members if they don't believe and leave the church.
Although shunning as practiced by the Jehovah’s Witnesses has unique features, the practice of a strict separation from those who have left the faith or have been excluded for serious transgressions was typical of the monotheistic religions—Judaism, Christianity, and Islam—since their very origins.
Scholars have explained that the early devotees of monotheistic faiths were surrounded by polytheists, and shunning was a way to protect their young and fragile religions. Even when the number of their followers grew so much that they became majority, they still believed that the integrity of their faith should be protected.