>Tries to BTFO OP >Accidentally reinforces OP's point by posting all these pagan week day names but in Italian
You did realize that Lunedi also means Moon Day, right?
>couldn't
Did they even care though? I'm not aware of any attempt to rename them in more christian fashion aside from sabbath/samstag and dimanche/domenica which were successful.
Early christians were very big on sincretism, just think about May being the month dedicated to the virgin Mary specifically because it used to be dedicated to Maia the earth mother.
>couldn't
Did they even care though? I'm not aware of any attempt to rename them in more christian fashion aside from sabbath/samstag and dimanche/domenica which were successful.
Early christians were very big on sincretism, just think about May being the month dedicated to the virgin Mary specifically because it used to be dedicated to Maia the earth mother.
So basically they largely didn't care but all of the few actual attempts succeeded?
Sounds like the thread's premise is disproven.
A week should be 6 days, not 7, since 6 goes evenly into 12 and 60 more evenly, which is far more in-line with duodecimal system, which is a far more elegant numbering system than decimal
A month should have 60 days instead of 30/31 for the same reason
With 60 day months, it means instead of 12 months we have 6, which still works within duodecimal
6 day weeks, 60 day months, 6 month years.
This was the numbering system used by the Babylonians
Rate my calendar reform
Complete rubbish.
The lunar month should be the month.
The 19 year Metonic cycle should dictate the relationship between Lunar months and Solar Years.
Instead of decades we should have 30 year "eras".
Humans have 5 fingers per hand, ten fingers all together and twenty fingers/toes combined.
Your counting system should reflect that.
Similarly you have birth/life/death.
sunrise/mid-day/sunset.
Three and three threes (nine) should be your weeks if you want weeks.
>Your counting system should reflect that.
I dissagree. Base-10 is objectively inferior to base-12. 12 is a highly composite number
Also, you CAN count base-12 on your fingers. The way the Babylonians did it was by counting the creases/joints of each finger (there are 12 joints on your fingers per hand, not counting the thumb, its those lines that split your fingers into 3 distinct sections)
>I dissagree. Base-10 is objectively inferior to base-12. 12 is a highly composite number
It's only inferior if you live in a world with no fractions or decimals. >Also, you CAN count base-12 on your fingers.
You can count any base system on your fingers by using more complicated derivations.
However, you can't get more simple than simply counting the number of digits on your hands.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's only inferior if you live in a world with no fractions or decimals.
base-12 works just fine with both of these things. There's nothing special about base-10 regarding fractions. All you're doing is adding 2 extra digits (X and E) and roling over to 10 after E
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>base-12 works just fine with both of these things.
Well no. Base 12 only makes sense if you need to avoid fractions and decimals. That's it.
There's no other reason to use it.
You yourself brought up 12 being a highly composite number.
12 is divisible by 1,2,3,4,6,12
10 is divisible by 1,2,5,10
The chances of decimals/fractions being encountered are less.
They did, lots of languages use the Hebrew based "1st Day, 2nd day, ... 6th day, Shabbat" order. Early Christians in Rome did this.
Complete rubbish.
The lunar month should be the month.
The 19 year Metonic cycle should dictate the relationship between Lunar months and Solar Years.
Instead of decades we should have 30 year "eras".
Humans have 5 fingers per hand, ten fingers all together and twenty fingers/toes combined.
Your counting system should reflect that.
Similarly you have birth/life/death.
sunrise/mid-day/sunset.
Three and three threes (nine) should be your weeks if you want weeks.
>This was the numbering system used by the Babylonians
Frick the Babylonians.
"The week" is based on the system of Planetary Hours. In short, every hour of the day (1/24th) is ruled by a God or Goddess. You'll notice however that 24/7=3.42, meaning that you can only fit 21 hours (and thus three cycles) in a day with 3 hours leftover. Those remaining three hours are in the day, and then the fourth one starts the next day. Thus, each day is named after the God or Goddess to rule the first hour. So, you go clockwise down pic related for the hour, and follow the heptagram for the day (which is the result of following the hours 3.42 times). This is why we measure time in weeks (the timing in Genesis was invented to justify doing this system, the israelites got it from the Babylonians).
The Germanics, who were not exposed to this system until much later, measured time in months (moons), as all Indo-European peoples do. Well, all peoples really, because it's such a fricking obvious timekeeping system. Weeks only really matter if you can have a centralized timekeeping system (see: the debates in Christianity and Islam over when Sunday/Friday are), whereas the moon just does it's thing independent of humans. Unfortunately, lunar cycles occur in units of 29.53 days, and 365/=29.53=12.36, so if you measure time in months you get the same problem that you get with the Planetary Hours (there's 10.64 days leftover).
Obviously the ideal system is 11 months with 30 days and a 12th month with 35/36 days, with the 5/6 days leftover being part of the winter celebrations leading up to the start/end of the year at the winter solstice (because we're only using Rome's goofery out of inertia, not because "January 1" has any astronomical significance).
>astronomy was invented in the 2nd century
IQfy really is the dumbest fricking board
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
was invented in the 2nd century >IQfy really is the dumbest fricking board
You're the only person who's ever said that astronomy was invented in the 2nd century AD anon. You're the idiot right now.
Astrology isn't Astronomy.
They mean different things.
Planetary hours were first described and used in the second century AD.
Nothing about it was technologically revolutionary. It's just a superstitious concept.
Grow up please.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Good job proving his point, dumbfrick.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Good job proving his point, dumbfrick.
Samegayging is not a sign of intelligence or sanity anon.
Please learn to read, understand and quote.
The Planetary Hours is from Babylonian Astrology at least as far back as the 800sBC, yes I know that the Wikipedia article that you just read doesn't say so, this is why you need to read books. As already demonstrated the system of weeks is unrelated to months ("the week" in Roman horology derives from a replacement of the original 9-day Nundinae system with the 7-day Babylonian system by way of Greek influence).
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The Planetary Hours is from Babylonian Astrology
"The astrological order of the days was explained by Vettius Valens and Dio Cassius"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_hours
"Vettius Valens (120 – c. 175)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vettius_Valens
"Lucius Cassius Dio (c.165 – c.235)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_Dio
Learn basic history anon...
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thank you for proving my point. I accept your concession.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Thank you for proving my point. I accept your concession.
Lol, It proves you wrong dumbfrick.
Also, wtf is with every fricking autistic moron on IQfy/reddit now using the -
"I accept your concession."
as an argument ender when they have no argument?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>this is why you need to read books
You aren't reading books, you're just making bullshit up.
There is zero archeological evidence for the Babylonians using the planetary hours system.
>"The week" is based on the system of Planetary Hours. In short, every hour of the day (1/24th) is ruled by a God or Goddess. You'll notice however that 24/7=3.42, meaning that you can only fit 21 hours (and thus three cycles) in a day with 3 hours leftover. Those remaining three hours are in the day, and then the fourth one starts the next day. Thus, each day is named after the God or Goddess to rule the first hour. So, you go clockwise down pic related for the hour, and follow the heptagram for the day (which is the result of following the hours 3.42 times). This is why we measure time in weeks (the timing in Genesis was invented to justify doing this system, the israelites got it from the Babylonians).
Holy fricking shit so that's why we do it this way.
Stop fricking samegayging, I already told you the Wikipedia article that I read demonstrates that the Babylonians didn't know about the planets until the 2nd-century.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>"The week" is based on the system of Planetary Hours. In short, every hour of the day (1/24th) is ruled by a God or Goddess. You'll notice however that 24/7=3.42, meaning that you can only fit 21 hours (and thus three cycles) in a day with 3 hours leftover. Those remaining three hours are in the day, and then the fourth one starts the next day. Thus, each day is named after the God or Goddess to rule the first hour. So, you go clockwise down pic related for the hour, and follow the heptagram for the day (which is the result of following the hours 3.42 times). This is why we measure time in weeks (the timing in Genesis was invented to justify doing this system, the israelites got it from the Babylonians).
Holy fricking shit so that's why we do it this way.
Lol, Indeed anon. You're so mentally ill that you think agreeing with yourself is a winning argument.
Nobody said the Babylonians didn't know about the planets anon. That's your second autistic meltdown strawman so far.
Why are you so stupid?
Why are you so upset?
>Christians keep the same day names >CHRISTKEKS! >Christians changes the day names >CHRISTIAN homosexualS ARE RUINING EVERYTHING
So what's the point of this bait thread again?
>White people keep their culture >LARPAGANS! >White people lose their culture >NAZIS BTFO israeliteS WIN AGAIN!
So what's the point of this bait post again?
Because they don't care. There's nothing wrong with mythological symbolism, and it's also heavily used in eastern Christianity. It's just that, symbolism.
Christians never had an insecurity to change everything to a Christian alternative. Like humans, concepts and symbols can also be baptized.
This is what most pagans struggle to understand. Pagan deities have their place within Christian symbolism, because Christianity did not come to abolish such symbols or even these deities, only the worship of them.
Move over pagancuck, it's real evangelization hours
English isn't the only language in the world...
… Those are also based on pagan deities, except for Sabath and Domenica, Metatroon the coping terrone
Those are the planets. Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus
Where did they get those names I wonder?
lmfao
He isnt wrong. He didnt lie. He is a gud boy.
Martedi = Mars
Mercoledi = Mercury
Giovedi = Jupiter
Venerdi = Venus
This isn't the "own" you think it is.
redditor tier reply though
>sabato
Shabbat
>Domenica
Lord's day
>Tries to BTFO OP
>Accidentally reinforces OP's point by posting all these pagan week day names but in Italian
You did realize that Lunedi also means Moon Day, right?
You just reinforced it moron, anyways its nice that the days are dedicated to the ancient gods. as it should be.
>couldn't
Did they even care though? I'm not aware of any attempt to rename them in more christian fashion aside from sabbath/samstag and dimanche/domenica which were successful.
Early christians were very big on sincretism, just think about May being the month dedicated to the virgin Mary specifically because it used to be dedicated to Maia the earth mother.
>I'm not aware of any attempt to rename them in more christian fashion
Portuguese, see
So basically they largely didn't care but all of the few actual attempts succeeded?
Sounds like the thread's premise is disproven.
Estonia renamed months and days in christian fashion.
It’s more about historical and cultural continuity rather than direct religious association.
Why couldn't you change into a woman?
The Suebi did it when they ruled Galicia.
Now Portuguese speaking countries don't use the pagan names because of it.
They did change the pagan week names in Portuguese to christian/secular ones though.
Yes.
Johnsday, Lukedays, Matthewsday, I can dig it.
Marksday
Paulsday
Maryday
Lordsday
yes change them to hebrew names so it sounds better to christcucks
i hate this muddling up of frigg/freya
>they were le same!
nah
Current year is 2024 since God's only begotten son founded the world's most successful religion.
A week should be 6 days, not 7, since 6 goes evenly into 12 and 60 more evenly, which is far more in-line with duodecimal system, which is a far more elegant numbering system than decimal
A month should have 60 days instead of 30/31 for the same reason
With 60 day months, it means instead of 12 months we have 6, which still works within duodecimal
6 day weeks, 60 day months, 6 month years.
This was the numbering system used by the Babylonians
Rate my calendar reform
Complete rubbish.
The lunar month should be the month.
The 19 year Metonic cycle should dictate the relationship between Lunar months and Solar Years.
Instead of decades we should have 30 year "eras".
Humans have 5 fingers per hand, ten fingers all together and twenty fingers/toes combined.
Your counting system should reflect that.
Similarly you have birth/life/death.
sunrise/mid-day/sunset.
Three and three threes (nine) should be your weeks if you want weeks.
>Your counting system should reflect that.
I dissagree. Base-10 is objectively inferior to base-12. 12 is a highly composite number
Also, you CAN count base-12 on your fingers. The way the Babylonians did it was by counting the creases/joints of each finger (there are 12 joints on your fingers per hand, not counting the thumb, its those lines that split your fingers into 3 distinct sections)
>I dissagree. Base-10 is objectively inferior to base-12. 12 is a highly composite number
It's only inferior if you live in a world with no fractions or decimals.
>Also, you CAN count base-12 on your fingers.
You can count any base system on your fingers by using more complicated derivations.
However, you can't get more simple than simply counting the number of digits on your hands.
>It's only inferior if you live in a world with no fractions or decimals.
base-12 works just fine with both of these things. There's nothing special about base-10 regarding fractions. All you're doing is adding 2 extra digits (X and E) and roling over to 10 after E
>base-12 works just fine with both of these things.
Well no. Base 12 only makes sense if you need to avoid fractions and decimals. That's it.
There's no other reason to use it.
You yourself brought up 12 being a highly composite number.
12 is divisible by 1,2,3,4,6,12
10 is divisible by 1,2,5,10
The chances of decimals/fractions being encountered are less.
>This was the numbering system used by the Babylonians
Frick the Babylonians.
They did, lots of languages use the Hebrew based "1st Day, 2nd day, ... 6th day, Shabbat" order. Early Christians in Rome did this.
"The week" is based on the system of Planetary Hours. In short, every hour of the day (1/24th) is ruled by a God or Goddess. You'll notice however that 24/7=3.42, meaning that you can only fit 21 hours (and thus three cycles) in a day with 3 hours leftover. Those remaining three hours are in the day, and then the fourth one starts the next day. Thus, each day is named after the God or Goddess to rule the first hour. So, you go clockwise down pic related for the hour, and follow the heptagram for the day (which is the result of following the hours 3.42 times). This is why we measure time in weeks (the timing in Genesis was invented to justify doing this system, the israelites got it from the Babylonians).
The Germanics, who were not exposed to this system until much later, measured time in months (moons), as all Indo-European peoples do. Well, all peoples really, because it's such a fricking obvious timekeeping system. Weeks only really matter if you can have a centralized timekeeping system (see: the debates in Christianity and Islam over when Sunday/Friday are), whereas the moon just does it's thing independent of humans. Unfortunately, lunar cycles occur in units of 29.53 days, and 365/=29.53=12.36, so if you measure time in months you get the same problem that you get with the Planetary Hours (there's 10.64 days leftover).
Obviously the ideal system is 11 months with 30 days and a 12th month with 35/36 days, with the 5/6 days leftover being part of the winter celebrations leading up to the start/end of the year at the winter solstice (because we're only using Rome's goofery out of inertia, not because "January 1" has any astronomical significance).
>"The week" is based on the system of Planetary Hours.
No, that's second century AD Astrology lol.
You had seven and five day weeks before that.
>Weeks only really matter if you can have a centralized timekeeping system
Weeks are nothing more than a means of dividing the lunar month.
>astronomy was invented in the 2nd century
IQfy really is the dumbest fricking board
was invented in the 2nd century
>IQfy really is the dumbest fricking board
You're the only person who's ever said that astronomy was invented in the 2nd century AD anon. You're the idiot right now.
Astrology isn't Astronomy.
They mean different things.
Planetary hours were first described and used in the second century AD.
Nothing about it was technologically revolutionary. It's just a superstitious concept.
Grow up please.
Good job proving his point, dumbfrick.
>Good job proving his point, dumbfrick.
Samegayging is not a sign of intelligence or sanity anon.
Please learn to read, understand and quote.
The Planetary Hours is from Babylonian Astrology at least as far back as the 800sBC, yes I know that the Wikipedia article that you just read doesn't say so, this is why you need to read books. As already demonstrated the system of weeks is unrelated to months ("the week" in Roman horology derives from a replacement of the original 9-day Nundinae system with the 7-day Babylonian system by way of Greek influence).
>The Planetary Hours is from Babylonian Astrology
"The astrological order of the days was explained by Vettius Valens and Dio Cassius"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_hours
"Vettius Valens (120 – c. 175)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vettius_Valens
"Lucius Cassius Dio (c.165 – c.235)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_Dio
Learn basic history anon...
Thank you for proving my point. I accept your concession.
>Thank you for proving my point. I accept your concession.
Lol, It proves you wrong dumbfrick.
Also, wtf is with every fricking autistic moron on IQfy/reddit now using the -
"I accept your concession."
as an argument ender when they have no argument?
>this is why you need to read books
You aren't reading books, you're just making bullshit up.
There is zero archeological evidence for the Babylonians using the planetary hours system.
>"The week" is based on the system of Planetary Hours. In short, every hour of the day (1/24th) is ruled by a God or Goddess. You'll notice however that 24/7=3.42, meaning that you can only fit 21 hours (and thus three cycles) in a day with 3 hours leftover. Those remaining three hours are in the day, and then the fourth one starts the next day. Thus, each day is named after the God or Goddess to rule the first hour. So, you go clockwise down pic related for the hour, and follow the heptagram for the day (which is the result of following the hours 3.42 times). This is why we measure time in weeks (the timing in Genesis was invented to justify doing this system, the israelites got it from the Babylonians).
Holy fricking shit so that's why we do it this way.
Stop fricking samegayging, I already told you the Wikipedia article that I read demonstrates that the Babylonians didn't know about the planets until the 2nd-century.
Lol, Indeed anon. You're so mentally ill that you think agreeing with yourself is a winning argument.
Nobody said the Babylonians didn't know about the planets anon. That's your second autistic meltdown strawman so far.
Why are you so stupid?
Why are you so upset?
>Christians keep the same day names
>CHRISTKEKS!
>Christians changes the day names
>CHRISTIAN homosexualS ARE RUINING EVERYTHING
So what's the point of this bait thread again?
>So what's the point of this bait thread again?
What was the point of you autistic meltdown Christ-tard anon?
>White people keep their culture
>LARPAGANS!
>White people lose their culture
>NAZIS BTFO israeliteS WIN AGAIN!
So what's the point of this bait post again?
>Year of our Lord 2024
Calendarization is akin to tearing off someone's skin and repurposing it into your clothes.
That's why you have germanic day-names, roman month-names, and CE-years. With sumerian counting of seconds/minutes/hours in 60s.
Because they don't care. There's nothing wrong with mythological symbolism, and it's also heavily used in eastern Christianity. It's just that, symbolism.
Christians never had an insecurity to change everything to a Christian alternative. Like humans, concepts and symbols can also be baptized.
This is what most pagans struggle to understand. Pagan deities have their place within Christian symbolism, because Christianity did not come to abolish such symbols or even these deities, only the worship of them.