Why did Columbus go to this islamic shithole instead of a proper European country like France or England

Why did Columbus go to this islamic shithole instead of a proper European country like France or England

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I guess it's because it was closer to the Hesperides or something. The Spanish already had the yellow birdie islands, so I imagine they probably knew a bit about the land beyond the pillars of Hercules, hence why they were more willing to go out west than people closer to the heart of Europe.
    Also, the Portuguese had already sailed around Africa, so it was just a matter of time before the Spanish tried sailing around the world too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >islamic
      There were less muslims in Spain in 1492 than in the two other countries today lol

      Only Spain and Portugal had the mean to be involved in such large entreprise. England was a shithole just out of a civil war and France was never interested in naval affairs
      Columbus first option was Portugal because they were the ones who had the most experience as sailors and the most advanced ships

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >There were less muslims in Spain in 1492 than in the two other countries today lol
        All iberians are nonwhite MENA rapebabies with black admixture

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Bottom guy looks like that irish guy from /soc/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          cope

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're a Black person Paco.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so your beautiful nordic woman got raped by arabs? kek

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            wtf is your problem?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Spain and Portugal had the mean
        Mean what? Mean income? Mean fertility rate? Mean household size?
        Or do you mean "mean" as in "Man, these people are mean" or like "That's a mean-looking tomato pie you got 'ere"?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >15th century
    >France or England
    you avin a gigol m8?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't his first choice. I believe at first he made a proposition to the government of his native Republic of Genoa, but got no reply. Then he asked the king of Portugal (Columbus had lived and worked in Portugal for years and had a Portuguese wife), but the project got rejected. Only then did he go to Spain.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >believe at first he made a proposition to the government of his native Republic of Genoa, but got no
      It literally never happened, we don't even know for sure if Columbus was genoan

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Samples from his son Ferdinand reveal a mostly Iberian origin, you can find the article online and a lot of newspaper headlines about it. The Genoese hypothesis has been pretty much discarded.

        Columbus himself had a brother named Diego that worked as a cartographer in Lisbon, thats the mosts stereotypical 15th century iberian shit I can think of. He definitely had some connection to Genoa in his early life but he was probably Spanish or Portuguese.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Source? I cant find anything

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2023/01/22/a-wiener-and-bull-story-christopher-columbus-dna-tests-aim-to-end-dispute-over-birthplace/&ved=2ahUKEwjf0sKdpO6EAxUnUKQEHcrqCSgQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3lU8omKAe86fO4YP_84jVy
            https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2023/01/22/a-wiener-and-bull-story-christopher-columbus-dna-tests-aim-to-end-dispute-over-birthplace/&ved=2ahUKEwjf0sKdpO6EAxUnUKQEHcrqCSgQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3lU8omKAe86fO4YP_84jVy
            https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/19/dna-study-sets-out-to-establish-true-origins-of-christopher-columbus&ved=2ahUKEwjf0sKdpO6EAxUnUKQEHcrqCSgQFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0JcsFZXw-xzzsOog9n5rZv
            https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://ksj.mit.edu/tracker-archive/updated-dna-tests-all-over-was-columbus/&ved=2ahUKEwjf0sKdpO6EAxUnUKQEHcrqCSgQFnoECBkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1uopQqBaSpWXbS6g4OkEEs
            https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://english.elpais.com/culture/2022-11-29/tracing-columbuss-dna-two-exhumations-in-spain-seek-to-determine-the-explorers-lineage-once-and-for-all.html%3FoutputType%3Damp&ved=2ahUKEwjf0sKdpO6EAxUnUKQEHcrqCSgQFnoECB0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Hgwv2HK6EY3nNfUblOdLU
            https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.fundacaooureana.pt/en/tag/christopher-columbus-dna/&ved=2ahUKEwjf0sKdpO6EAxUnUKQEHcrqCSgQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2eYHlT7VaynuVIXnrq3wxC

            Source for his portuguese brother: Gilman, D. C.; Peck, H. T.; Colby, F. M., eds. (1905). "Columbus, Diego (brother)". New International Encyclopedia (1st ed.).

            Theres also a papal bull by pope Alexander VI where he directly calls Colombus "son of Iberia" (Inter Caetera papal bull)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ok thx I will read that when I have time later

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The study got stalled like the other anon said but there has been some progress made regarding Fredinand (check last link) so the final results are expectable sometime soon.

            They did, they even found traces of croatian apparently.

            How?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Hilariously the iberian researchers trying to prove his iberian origin never published anything in the end. Even after 10 years.
          Because it turned out he was genoese so they are readily hiding it lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you lying? They didnt try to prove anything and it was a joint spanish-italian-american research that got stalled because of Covid. The result will be there eventually. And it definitely hasnt been 10 year

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They did, they even found traces of croatian apparently.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There's a crazy theory that columbus was half polish half portuguese. The mix of the two will give you more or less a croat I believe
            But I doubt it, what study are you refering to

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Theyd didnt. They didnt published anything in the end. The very articles you posted say the study was never published. The iberian researchers that went arround aaying they were excited to prove the spanish origin of columbus pussied out when they found he was genoese and hid everything

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Im the guy that posted the articles not him, and they're still undergoing

            The study got stalled like the other anon said but there has been some progress made regarding Fredinand (check last link) so the final results are expectable sometime soon.

            [...]
            How?

            Also mistake here, its not in the last link, I lost track of which link is which.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This made me notice something, is it me or was the poster count removed

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes asiaticmoot took it away for obscure reasons
            The one thing that hzlped us to notice schizos is gone

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Idk why thy did it it just feeds into the paranoia that the mods were involved in the board flooding schizophrenia

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            because its true

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >pussied out when they found he was genoese and hid everything
            Why you invent shit

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    becaus it wasn't a shithole

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Basques had the best oceanic ships

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The ships that went to America in the first voyage were not basque though

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Huh? The biggest ship in the expedition was owned by Juan de La Cosa, from Cantabria, basically Basque

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Bro, I paid for it, so I get ALL the credit for it
          israeli mindset

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Cantabria=/ basque

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            A few kms away, same shipbuilding traditions

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't exactly a shithole, it controlled half of Italy, recently a large 15th century Basque Castillian ship has been found in Newsport, Castillians were involved both in the Atlantic trade and to a lesser extent in the Mediterranean one, Catalns were masters of Mediterranean trade, so Spain (Castille + Catalans) was a nation of excellent and experienced sailors

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it controlled half of Italy
      The shittier and poorer half. The Kingdom of Aragon was a separate entitity from the Kingdom of Castile till the revocation of medieval privileges known as fueros by Prince Philippe, duc d'Anjou (AKA King Philip V of Spain) in the year 1707.
      The Kingdom of Aragon played no role whatsoever in the conquest of Mexico and Peru.
      >inb4 I already knew that but frick you, smartass guiri
      Yo no onions un guiri, sino un hombre que no es leal a ningún país.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        have a nice day latinx

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The shittier and poorer half.
        Poorer than the North maybe, but still one of the wealthiest places in the Mediterranean, Naples was among the biggest cities in Europe

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In 1304 The Florentine chronicler Giovanni Villani writes that Basque cogs were brought to the Mediterranean and that local shipwrights started to copy them; the Castillian merchant navy was one of the best

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sage&report

    noko in all fields 🙂

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The bad tongues claim he was the queen's lover or something close to that, he planned this journey and the crown just wanted him out of the continent, the portuguese maps and aproximations he used made sense when someone explained them to him, and his capacity to have no idea where he was is astonishing, check what he did, called everything magical, ate all the toxic food got syfilis and died, why the continent is called america, for Americo Vespucio

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      moronic post

      Is IQfy really so moronic, as to call one of the most Important kingdoms of Europe in the start of it's biggest golden age a "shithole"?
      Really?

      This board is full of people butthurt at iberians

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Disregard my words as special needs, shall you but remember the more u know of the man the dumbest he looks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The bad tongues
      Literally no native English speaker uses a literal translation of "las malas lenguas", Paco.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The expression also exist in french dumb angloid

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          and in Italian

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          and in Italian

          Latinized

          Also go ahead am free to disprove

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          and in Italian

          What language are we communicating in right now, Pedro? Spanish? Portuguese? Italian? French?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Some French dialect called english for some bizarre reason

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is IQfy really so moronic, as to call one of the most Important kingdoms of Europe in the start of it's biggest golden age a "shithole"?
    Really?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Is IQfy really so moronic, as to call one of the most Important kingdoms of Europe in the start of it's biggest golden age a "shithole"?
      A lot of Yanks here seething at everything Spanish-speaking.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because back then Castile was a better shithole than Ingerland or France

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >islamic
    They had just finished defeating the last Islamic state in the peninsula; they had been at war with Islamic states for hundreds of years so they were the most anti-islamic state in the world, hence why Colombus wanted to use the money he'd gain in India to fund a crusade
    >shithole
    It wasn't a shithole by any means, they had large fleets of ships so it was an ideal kingdom to launch expedition from, and they were the closest to Africa
    >a proper European country like France or England
    Colombus cared about Christendom, not about how pale you were, unless you were a noble woman to marry maybe, lol

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Columbus may have been Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, even a Sephardic israelite. All are possible.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He did. Both rejected supporting his expedition. He even went to Portugal (which also rejected) before he went to Spain and finally got support.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He never asked England of France

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