VHS were way too popular to allow any competition. Also the discs and the player were much more expensive than a VCR and VHS and it could not record. Only a few cinephiles bought these for the supposedly better quality, but unless you had a very good tv you could not see the difference anyway.
VHS was cheaper and able to record hours of footage with 1 tape. Laserdisc had not much impact. Very popular in Japan, not so much in the US and even less in (West)Europe. When Laserdisc court more attention in the 1990s it was to late because DVD superseded it.
Yes I watched Technology Connection's six part laserdisk series too.
VHS was cheaper and able to record hours of footage with 1 tape. Laserdisc had not much impact. Very popular in Japan, not so much in the US and even less in (West)Europe. When Laserdisc court more attention in the 1990s it was to late because DVD superseded it.
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Yes I watched Technology Connection's six part laserdisk series too.
Great for you. Until now I never heard of Technology Connection, had to look it up. I'm not a fking zoomer like you that need to consumes YT videos in order to get informations. You probably need 2 minutes video on how to you wipe your own ass.
giant fragile analog discs that you had to flip over mid movie, or in the worst case scenario multiple discs that you flip over, super expensive players.
VCD accomplished nearly the same while being much smaller, and DVD blew everything away.
In the west? Players were expensive and the media was super expensive with limited stock in the rental supply chain. Everyone knew about it but it wasn’t going to dislodge commodity VHS. Dunno why it took off in Asia more (anime? Wealth?)
DVD came out and that was the end of LD and VHS. I had a HD-DVD player at one point which I used maybe seven times kek
>Players were expensive and the media was super expensive with limited stock in the rental supply chain.
The disc media was supposed to be much cheaper and players too. Video tape recorders are mechanecially relatively complex devices compared to a laser disc player, and effort recording every single tape is enormous compared to pressing discs. It's kinda miracle how cost optimized the VHS machines became especially in their later days.
>Dunno why it took off in Asia more (anime? Wealth?)
These days when a new anime comes to bluray in Japan they usually only have like a few episodes per disk.
So there might be something to just how much otaku are willing to spend on anime.
The most important reason by far was that it couldn't be recorded at home. This meant that there was a chicken-and-egg problem: no LaserDisc stores or releases because very few people had LaserDisc players, and very few people buying LaserDisc players because there were no LaserDisc stores or releases. Remember that you couldn't just order obscure shit from Amazon back then.
VHS could bootstrap itself as a way for people to shift their favorite TV shows to a more convenient time and avoid missing episodes. Then, once there was a large base of people with VHS players, it became attractive to open VHS video rentals and stores.
The second biggest reason was running time. People don't want to get up in the middle of a movie to change disks or cassettes, and they were willing to sacrifice quality for that. Many of them had tiny crap TVs so they wouldn't even notice. This is also why Betamax failed.
Couldn't record, simple as. It might have succeeded if movies were $20 but back then corporations figured they could make more by charging $100/movie and renting as an alternative.
its this. they only really 'took off' in places like hong kong where copyright didnt exist at the time and everyone bought pirated media at least the only people i knew who had them sourced the players and discs from there other wise they were out of the reach of regular folk and just a toy of people with too much money
It's way too expensive for a general consoomer. Although it did bring one advantage - bringing digital sound to the home. Dolby Digital and DTS were first utilized in the home on this format then it was ported over to DVD and they became a standard.
Anyone else extremely impressed that ld-decode and vhs-decode exist? When I think about it, I still find it hard to believe that technology is so advanced now that we can just capture the raw radio-frequency signal from LD or VHS and decode it with a Python script. It feels like a distant science fiction scenario.
Personally I don't really care for vhs-decode / ld-decode. There seems to be a disturbing amount of focus on the decoding part. It seems that a standard thing to do would be to decode it and then dispose of the raw RF.
Why disturbing? I consider it the biggest advantage that you can keep the RF capture and decode it multiple times. You can wait for better decoding algos to come out without suffering the degradation that would happen if you kept the signal on the cassette.
As it stands the raw captures aren't really fit for distribution. Maybe if you could get a few people who are into that together in a group you could make it happen. I think it's less likely that the raw RF captures are getting disposed and more likely the people making them simply keep them to themselves, as distributing a huge flac file that can only be decoded with autistic software isn't really going to be popular.
when making a post constructed like this, does the poster hit backspace and then space in between clicking each post it is replying to? I hate vertically stacked mass replies as much as anyone, but somehow these are worse.
There were some laserdisc releases for the upmarket gooner. As I said the last time this gay thread was posted with the exact same wording and picture as it existed in the US market it was a niche format for people with money. It didn't sell like VHS but it got all kinds of widescreen special edition releases. It was the best you could get in it's time. Of course even DVD coming out made analog composite video encoded on a big ass disc developed in the late 70s look like an absolute joke.
The difference was pretty striking even on normal shitty TVs. I always thought watching something on VHS looked like shit compared to watching on cable or satellite TV. It was my boomer grandparents house where I got to see what C-Band analog satellite looks like and obviously it beat the shit out of any shitty VHS tape. But as boomers who spent a lot of money on something most normal people didn't have access to unless they were hicks in the sticks desperate to get access to cable channels, they weren't that, their house was able to be serviced by cable, they still didn't care about the difference between it and VHS tapes. They still rented movies on VHS instead of ordering them on pay per view and watching with their expensive C-Band setup.
Literally worse lifespan than VHS and the recorder was too expensive.
Size
>manlytears showing his gamecube disc collection
kek
VHS were way too popular to allow any competition. Also the discs and the player were much more expensive than a VCR and VHS and it could not record. Only a few cinephiles bought these for the supposedly better quality, but unless you had a very good tv you could not see the difference anyway.
Yes I watched Technology Connection's six part laserdisk series too.
No error correcting code. Was doomed to fail.
You can se all the reasons why on the picture.
too much soul for the soulless masses
No one wants your big stupid frisbee
Explain what emotion I felt when viewing this, and why.
LaserDisc was too big to fail
VHS was cheaper and able to record hours of footage with 1 tape. Laserdisc had not much impact. Very popular in Japan, not so much in the US and even less in (West)Europe. When Laserdisc court more attention in the 1990s it was to late because DVD superseded it.
Great for you. Until now I never heard of Technology Connection, had to look it up. I'm not a fking zoomer like you that need to consumes YT videos in order to get informations. You probably need 2 minutes video on how to you wipe your own ass.
giant fragile analog discs that you had to flip over mid movie, or in the worst case scenario multiple discs that you flip over, super expensive players.
VCD accomplished nearly the same while being much smaller, and DVD blew everything away.
VCD came over a decade later. Also, VCD is complete garbage compared to laser disc.
But I heard laserdisc had much better quality than DVDs
You heard this from delusional people who don't know how any of the technology works but have very strong opinions about it
But I heard that on reddit.
Laserdisc has an edge on fast moving complex scenes. But DVD is better for the most part.
I don't think it really failed, it was quite sucessful.
(You) are a full time penis smoker. Drink some water, go outside, reasses your life choices
That's a big disc
In the west? Players were expensive and the media was super expensive with limited stock in the rental supply chain. Everyone knew about it but it wasn’t going to dislodge commodity VHS. Dunno why it took off in Asia more (anime? Wealth?)
DVD came out and that was the end of LD and VHS. I had a HD-DVD player at one point which I used maybe seven times kek
>Players were expensive and the media was super expensive with limited stock in the rental supply chain.
The disc media was supposed to be much cheaper and players too. Video tape recorders are mechanecially relatively complex devices compared to a laser disc player, and effort recording every single tape is enormous compared to pressing discs. It's kinda miracle how cost optimized the VHS machines became especially in their later days.
>Dunno why it took off in Asia more (anime? Wealth?)
These days when a new anime comes to bluray in Japan they usually only have like a few episodes per disk.
So there might be something to just how much otaku are willing to spend on anime.
The most important reason by far was that it couldn't be recorded at home. This meant that there was a chicken-and-egg problem: no LaserDisc stores or releases because very few people had LaserDisc players, and very few people buying LaserDisc players because there were no LaserDisc stores or releases. Remember that you couldn't just order obscure shit from Amazon back then.
VHS could bootstrap itself as a way for people to shift their favorite TV shows to a more convenient time and avoid missing episodes. Then, once there was a large base of people with VHS players, it became attractive to open VHS video rentals and stores.
The second biggest reason was running time. People don't want to get up in the middle of a movie to change disks or cassettes, and they were willing to sacrifice quality for that. Many of them had tiny crap TVs so they wouldn't even notice. This is also why Betamax failed.
Consumers want convenience not quality.
Couldn't record, simple as. It might have succeeded if movies were $20 but back then corporations figured they could make more by charging $100/movie and renting as an alternative.
its this. they only really 'took off' in places like hong kong where copyright didnt exist at the time and everyone bought pirated media at least the only people i knew who had them sourced the players and discs from there other wise they were out of the reach of regular folk and just a toy of people with too much money
It's way too expensive for a general consoomer. Although it did bring one advantage - bringing digital sound to the home. Dolby Digital and DTS were first utilized in the home on this format then it was ported over to DVD and they became a standard.
It wasn't more expensive than VHS initially.
Yeah and then supposedly costs of manufacturing came into play and the prices start blowing up.
No. VHS players and especially the tapes were extremely expensive until like the mid 80's
Anyone else extremely impressed that ld-decode and vhs-decode exist? When I think about it, I still find it hard to believe that technology is so advanced now that we can just capture the raw radio-frequency signal from LD or VHS and decode it with a Python script. It feels like a distant science fiction scenario.
Personally I don't really care for vhs-decode / ld-decode. There seems to be a disturbing amount of focus on the decoding part. It seems that a standard thing to do would be to decode it and then dispose of the raw RF.
Why disturbing? I consider it the biggest advantage that you can keep the RF capture and decode it multiple times. You can wait for better decoding algos to come out without suffering the degradation that would happen if you kept the signal on the cassette.
As it stands the raw captures aren't really fit for distribution. Maybe if you could get a few people who are into that together in a group you could make it happen. I think it's less likely that the raw RF captures are getting disposed and more likely the people making them simply keep them to themselves, as distributing a huge flac file that can only be decoded with autistic software isn't really going to be popular.
jesus christ imagine bringing a woman home and having that blanket on the chair. pussy probably dries up in record time and then calls the police
At least it's a soijak and not some /misc/ shit...
It didn't fail. Its time came and went naturally.
Scratches shit on the experience real quick with stutters and skips. Love watching it when I was kid though.
when making a post constructed like this, does the poster hit backspace and then space in between clicking each post it is replying to? I hate vertically stacked mass replies as much as anyone, but somehow these are worse.
The gooner market makes or breaks any format. Go to any adult shop in the 80s and it was nothing but VHS nudievids, no laserdisk.
gooner?
There were some laserdisc releases for the upmarket gooner. As I said the last time this gay thread was posted with the exact same wording and picture as it existed in the US market it was a niche format for people with money. It didn't sell like VHS but it got all kinds of widescreen special edition releases. It was the best you could get in it's time. Of course even DVD coming out made analog composite video encoded on a big ass disc developed in the late 70s look like an absolute joke.
They players are bad. You have to change the crystal out ever 40 hours of play time baka
It was too beautiful for this sick, twisted world.
The difference was pretty striking even on normal shitty TVs. I always thought watching something on VHS looked like shit compared to watching on cable or satellite TV. It was my boomer grandparents house where I got to see what C-Band analog satellite looks like and obviously it beat the shit out of any shitty VHS tape. But as boomers who spent a lot of money on something most normal people didn't have access to unless they were hicks in the sticks desperate to get access to cable channels, they weren't that, their house was able to be serviced by cable, they still didn't care about the difference between it and VHS tapes. They still rented movies on VHS instead of ordering them on pay per view and watching with their expensive C-Band setup.
Laserdisc players were manufactured for 30 years so it wasn't a failure in the traditional sense.
The format wars.
It allowed people to backup and archive data, movies, and music. The media industry couldn't have that foil their streaming, rent, and cloud plans.
It was analog.