Why did pagan Europeans fail to conquer Christian Europeans? It should have been easy cause Christians tend to be weak and less warlike.
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Why did pagan Europeans fail to conquer Christian Europeans? It should have been easy cause Christians tend to be weak and less warlike.
>Fail
That means there was an attempt, there wasn't. Pagans are good people with morals who kept to their own ancestor lands, while christcucks ravaged, conquered, plundered and murdered everywhere they could go, so as to "save" people ordained by their apocalyptical death cult.
If pagans were the ones being ravaged then wouldn’t they be the cucks, idiot?
Shut up Christcuck, go proselytize in Africa.
Frick me? Frick you! Lol
>thread #72 of tired reddit cringe bullshit
When did the eternal r/athiesm raid of IQfy begin and when will it end?
now that's some typical slimy christcuck rewriting of history
you came here in 2016 with the magamutt reddit horde, you aren't fooling anyone
pro-tip: not partaking to your servile judaean slave cult doesn't make someone an atheist
10,000+ unoriginal "Le sky daddy bad" threads per day and 10,000+ "CHRISTKEKS btfo" replies to literally any thread about any religion, and anything remotely tangent to it including architecture, arts, philosophy, and so on is a consistent bane on this board and has stifled so much interesting discussion, demeaning the overall quality of the board. Challenging religion is fine. Being a militant homosexual is cringe.
And I intend to stop it
you won't find me in disagreement about the reddit-tier status of IQfy as a whole within and beyond religious threads, it's quite obvious and if you browse another similar less infested blue board like IQfy the contrast is very strong
that hardly means indulging in the christcuck narrative of antiquity and its embarrassing on-off historicism
IQfy was made after 2016
Christianity wasn't even popular on IQfy until 2016. /misc/ was aggressively anti-Catholic until the Deus Vult LARPers came here.
>Yajur Veda 23.19-21 All wife of the host reciting three mantras go round the horse. While praying, they say: ‘O horse, you are, protector of the community on the basis of good qualities, you are, protector or treasure of happiness. O horse, you become my husband’. After the animal is purified by the priest, the principal wife sleeps near the horse and says: ‘O Horse, I extract the semen worth conception and you release the semen worth conception. The horse and principal wife spread two legs each. Then the Ardhvaryu(priest) orders to cover the oblation place, raise canopy etc. After this, the principal wife of the host pulls penis of the horse and puts it in her vegana and says: “This horse may release semen in me. Then the host, while praying to the horse says: “O horse, please throw semen on the upper part of the anus of my wife. Expand your penis and insert it in the vegana because after insertion, this penis makes women happy and lively.
Why do Christcucks think beastiality is bad bros?
>[obscure ritual from obsolete people]
WTF I love israelites now
Another reason why Indians are subhumans.
>Pagans are good people with morals
lol
Medieval "Christians" still had a pagan subconscious of warlike heroism but now with a unified cause to conquer for which of course made for a more effective army than whatever scattered tribes worshipped individual gods from village to village.
Protip: literally every aspect of Christianity you admire either comes from Greco-Roman philosophy or Germanic martial culture. The liberal humanism of modernity is the fruit of true Christianity.
> That wasn’t real Christianity!!! Real Christianity has never been tried in 2000 years
You sound like a communist
>real Christianity is going into foreign lands to pillage
Was that in the Sermon on the Mount?
I don’t know. Real Christianity has never been tried. Even today Christianity has not been tried, considering the amount of sexual sin and fornicators in the western world.
>tried to kill Christianity by changing paganism from a bunch of freeform religious traditions into a quantifiable organised religion of its own in order to rival Christianity
>paganism becomes stale and forced as a lifeless imitator of how Christianity was run
>ends up killing paganism
Julian's commentary on religion is worthless.
> literally every aspect of Christianity you admire either comes from Germanic martial culture
That’s strange. I don’t admire Vikings and they were martial.
And it's funny because the entire Anglo-Saxon world glorifies and honours Vikings as mythic ancestors despite their inexcusable sins toward Christendom because their spirit still speaks to our pagan subconscious on a primordial level. It's only now that Christian morality has finally taken root that you see them as problematic because spiritually you are no different from a feminist blogging about toxic masculinity.
>And it's funny because the entire Anglo-Saxon world glorifies and honours Vikings as mythic ancestors despite their inexcusable sins toward Christendom. It's only now that Christian morality has finally taken root that you see them as problematic because spiritually you are no different from a feminist blogging about toxic masculinity.
That’s not true though. Vikings were literally not glorified until the late 19th century, idiot. Before then, the general view of Vikings was that expressed by John Milton
> “Of all these terrible landings and devastations by the Danes, from the days of Ethelwolf till their two last battles with Ethelred, or of their Leaders, whether Kings, Dukes, or Earls, the Danish History of best credit saith nothing; So little wit or conscience it seems they had to leave any memory of their brutish, rather then manly actions.” - John Milton, History of Britain, 17th century
Glorification of Vikings is a very recent modern thing actually, so it seems the less Christian people have become over time, the more they have glorified Vikings.
This is a joke, right? Scandinavians were regarded so poorly by the rest of Europe in the 16th century (being seen as savage backwaters) that Arngrímur Jónsson felt the need to right a defence of his country.
> Arngrímur Jónsson the Learned (Icelandic: Arngrímur Jónsson hinn lærði; 1568 – 27 June 1648) was an Icelandic scholar and a Christian apologist. His father was Jón Jónsson, who died in 1591.[1] Arngrímur studied in Copenhagen, completing his studies in 1589 and taking up a position back in Iceland as rector of the Latin school at the episcopal seat of Hólar in the same year.[2]
> In 1593 he published Brevis commentarius de Islandia, a "Defense of Iceland" in Latin, in which he criticized the works of numerous authors who had written about the people and the country of Iceland. His main target was a poem by Gories Peerse, a merchant who had written an entertaining and somewhat slanderous poem about Icelandic geography and ethnography. Arngrímur also, however, criticized substantial works such as Cosmographia universalis of the German scholar Sebastian Münster.
The idea of holy war comes from Islam and later spread among Christians. Nothing Germanic or pagan about it.
Greeks literally waged war against other religions for the favour of Ares
Aside from Spartans, Ares was not very popular among the Greeks and was often seen unfavourably.
ares wasnt popular in sparta, at all.
Holy war comes from the Old Testament you morons, the crusaders thought they were doing a reenactment of the conquest of Canaan in the book of Joshua.
I thought they were trying to be the Maccabees cause that’s what they compared themselves to.
Why would they see themselves reflected in a bunch of israeli rebels that lost in the end?
Both.
Yeah with their constant raids and human sacrifices lol. This is what the Balts were doing before they got ACK'd by the Germans.
Balts are still balts, Germans and you have nothing because the christcucks took away everything and then collapsed and now you are filled with LGBT to fill that void LMAO.
No Christians fault that pagan Nazis lost all the eastern German territory originally conquered by Christians from the pagan Slavs
>Pagan Nazis
Hahahahaha, Hitler was a known Christian who talked about Christ and ended few speeches with Amen, moronic Christcuck.
moron Augustine wrote about Just War centuries before Islam
The conquests were inherently peaceful since it was about spreading peace among the cruel and murderous pagan tribes. Christianity prevented a lot of bloodshed.
Early Christianity was very syncretic with pagans. You could keep your gods and heroes so long as you called them saints, and placed the Christian god above them. You could even perform your rites and festivals if you could weave Jesus into it somehow. It's the root cause for all the bizarre heresies from Pelagianism to Gnosticism. All attempts to put the Christian/Pre-Christian split in the pre-Christian camp's favor.
Over time, of course, the church cracked down on all that, and Christianity simply started to perform ethnic cleansing like we seen with the Northern Crusades.
in short, subversion.
This, because it was a slower process rather than a flip of a switch there wasn't as much resistance. Plenty of Germanic warlords would perform both Pagan and Christian rituals, and there would be melding of imagery. Can't find it online but during a visit to the British Museum I saw a striking crucifix from Scandinavia that had Jesus depicted as wearing a helmet and holding a hammer, appearing as a blending of imagery of Jesus and Thor.
The Scandinavians liked to depict Jesus as a lion which is pretty based
No this is how Jesus was depicted among earliest Christian Germanics like Ricimer.
prolly cuz europeans are gay
In some cases they did.
England and pretty much the entire Balkans except Greece were all conquered from Christians by pagans.
Greeks for some reason became christcucks then Romans after that you had no actual develop polytheisms rather a bunch of tribal unga bunga and such cannot compete with an organized monolithic religion.
Pagan elites were really into christianity because it promised them a way to claim legitimacy above all other pagans, provide instant allies against other pagans, and also a group of people (the clergy) who were guaranteed to be loyal to them as long as they agreed to spread christianity.
Paganism in the Roman Empire was killed by Greek Philosophy, a lot of Eastern Religions like Mithraism, Manicheism, or Gnostic cults about Isis, were fashionable among Roman Elites who no longer believed in Greco Roman myths. Christianity is the eastern religion that won.
Christianity being peaceful individually isn't the same as being peaceful collectively. Christianity was never opposed to armies or militias or executioners existing, the gospels are very positive with regards to roman centurions, like Cornelius.
>Christians tend to be weak and less warlike
This is a joke right? The Christian Knight became the most powerful and well equipped warrior in the world.
*European knight
Don’t think they ever called themselves that exactly so anachronistic
Early Christians literally behaved like modern stereotypes of israelites. They were subversive, spreading Christianity by targeting slaves and the poor, while trying to serve in noble houses in order to groom the children without the parents knowledge. Just as the Middle Ages had Court israelites, Roman households had House Christians who would seek to subvert the whole family. It wasn't until Constantine made Christianity the state religion that Christianity syncretized with paganism and Sol Invictus that it became a martial force.
Cope. While Nazis and communists had to take power through the common slave masses by way of revolution or democracy, Christianity took power through a militarily successful emperor.
Constantine literally only converted because the pagan priests refused to forgive him for boiling his wife alive. Christians would use "forgiveness" as a weapon again with Theodosius.
Copium. Why does Constantine make trannies seethe so much bros?
>They were subversive, spreading Christianity by targeting slaves and the poor, while trying to serve in noble houses in order to groom the children without the parents knowledge
They were trying to convert everyone they met. The end-game of Christianity is 100% of the world's population following Christ and that's been very clear to all from day 1. It's just that the poor were more receptive and more readily received it. When you've converted all you can in the lower classes, the only place to go is up.
Wealthy European nobility having a court israelite to allow them to be even greedier is in no way comparable with a Roman family employing a servant or owning a slave who did not have to be a Christian and whose religion plays no part in their role. A court israelite must be israeli in order to practice usury and is employed based on his religion alone.
Yahweh is mightier than Indo-Aryan "gods" and the Christians were stronger LOL stay mad bozo
because they managed to subvert an empire encompassing much of west Europe and force their cult from above, that was the key takeover
that being said, you gotta love the hypocritical intermittent historicism of christcucks, i.e, when christianity imposed itself over Europe, it was destiny/manifest superiority
when secular/liberal/etc... individuals do exactly the same and "convert" the population from above to the new post industrial mass management myth and ideology causing the slow twilight of traditional christianity, that's totally different
well ok but at least I don't worship the mutilated prepuce of a 2000 years old galilean israelite, anything gotta be an upgrade from that
This 2,000 years old israeli peasant destroyed ALL of european paganism totally ERADICATED it
uhm pagan bros...
>eradicated it
apparently not, hence the abrahamic golem seething
It was eradicated
Modern european paganism is absolutely no older than the late 1700s AT THE LATEST
Paganism doesn't exist among Europeans. "Pagans" are edgy atheists.
My country Latvia still has paganism, it's alive and well. Sorry that your ancestor ways were wiped out completely by the christcucks and now you are a cultureless void.
>believe supernatural entities govern the universe
>you're an atheist because.... because you are!
Why would your supernatural entities allow paganism to get destroyed and replaced by a israeli sand faith?
It didn't get destroyed, or there wouldn't be pagans today. Also, the descent of the ages has been foretold for millenia.
Why would God allow the complete destruction of Christendom by secular liberalism?
>It didn't get destroyed, or there wouldn't be pagans today.
.......................there aren't anon, there aren't true believers at all, only LARPers, on all religions.
>Also, the descent of the ages has been foretold for millenia.
Descent? What descent? We've only been in an upwards trajectory socially, technologically, and ethically.
>atheist
Don't care, didn't read, go back.
paganism exists today because 19th century atheists wanted to find something "cooler" than boring old secular atheism.
christianity has not been totally destroyed, given how there are still a sizable amount of christians who fully believe in their faith and who have direct continuity with the past (unlike "pagans")
you cannot compare christianity's recent decline and beliefs (remember paganism was not a religion, the fact that pagans treat it as such just shows their ignorance and how much christianity influenced their minds) which have been extinct for over 1,000 years
also, almost everything we know about european paganism comes from christians
>remember paganism was not a religion, the fact that pagans treat it as such just shows their ignorance and how much christianity influenced their minds
I don't treat it as such, it's you who always make the comparison like if you don't treat spirituality literally like Abrahamic worship then it isn't valid. I'm an esoteric, which you're going to call a LARP too. There's literally no win with you homosexuals.
>the gods are real in my mind
Yikes
>I don't actually believe in any gods
Yes, you will be accused of LARPing when all you do is live-action roleplay.
I do believe in the gods, even make sacrifices to them, but ultimately think embodying the forces they are is more important than submitting to them.
Sacrifice a human to your gods pussy. Be like your ancestors.
I sacrifice myself to myself as Wotan did
Please sacrifice yourself as soon as possible
Seething
Deuteronomy 28
>Why would God allow the complete destruction of Christendom by secular liberalism
Bible already predicts such an age anyway
> This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors , heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
>Two more weeks until Jesus comes back!
>Trust the plan!
why do you think the gods care if humans seek them or not ?
Then what's the point of worshipping them? They are entirely impotent.
Because their influence improves your life.
who said that they are impotent ? they just don't care if we choose to seek or not
they aren't obsessive jealous b***hes
Those who seek the gods do so for personal growth and help with any sort of matters, and the gods respond and help those who seek them
>Go to your megachurches, you spiritual consumerist.
Not all Christians are evangelical American zionists. You are coping.
>Paganism never died out in Baltics, cope and seethe cultureless israelite.
One of the most liberal, degenerate, and cultureless places in Europe? Seems that the Catholics and Protestants really did a number on indigenous Baltic worship.
Hahahahaha, nice cope. Baltics still have tens of thousands of year old pagan traditions while you have a buck thirty israelite bootleg sky daddy book to show for. Hahahahahahahaha. Go worship in your megachurches with Christcuck rock bands LMAO.
This must be a joke. We know far more about Norse paganism than we do about Baltic paganism. Germans have a far greater literary tradition.
Says who? You? Marvel Thor movies? Scandicucks have a cuck stamp on their flag, sad.
Who gives a shit about the Baltic? It is literally the least interesting and most boring place in Europe and has contributed the least historically to anything. Who ever romanticises that place? Most people don’t even know it exists.
>Paganism died out
>No it didn't in the Baltics
>Nooooooo that place doesn't count
Cope and seethe, go worship your israelite, rootless mutt.
Literally no one cares about the Baltic and the only time they do is when they’re writing a history of the Teutonic Knights. List at least three major Baltic contribution in the arts, music, science or technology.
That’s unfair. Lithuania has won at least one noble prize in chemistry. Although the guy who won it was a israelite. Latvia has also won one noble prize in chemistry in 1909 although the guy who won it was a Baltic German, but that still must count.
And of course there’s Baltic literature like the….anyway.
As for inventions what about a device that helps people commit mass suicide?
> The Euthanasia Coaster is a hypothetical steel roller coaster designed as a euthanasia device to kill its passengers.[1] The concept was conceived in 2010 and made into a scale model by Lithuanian artist Julijonas Urbonas, a PhD candidate at the Royal College of Art in London. Urbonas, who has experience as an amusement park employee, stated that the goal of his concept roller coaster is to take lives "with elegance and euphoria".[2] As for practical applications of his design, Urbonas mentioned "euthanasia" or "execution".[3] John Allen, who served as president of the Philadelphia Toboggan Company, inspired Urbonas with his description of the "ultimate" roller coaster as one that "sends out 24 people and they all come back dead".
That’s something, right?
>Paganism never died out in Baltics
Not everyone is a Baltic, moron.
Then say in which countries it died out, not everywhere, you rootless mutt.
Go have a nice day. And you probably will, considering the Baltic has the highest suicide rate in Europe.
because pagan's were actually terrible warriors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aclea - Vikings wrecked by Englishmen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Basing - English withdrew, but the battle was indecisive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Marton - Follow up to the previous battle, Vikings lost
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brissarthe - After murdering woman and children and then attempting to loot a church, the Christians slaughter the Vikings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brunanburh - England kills 5 viking kings and a prince, Vikings utterly crushed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cathair_Cuan - Norse defeated by Catholic Irish, driven out of Ireland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cynwit - Wrecked by the Saxons again
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Englefield - Saxons won
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Edington - Great Heathen army destroyed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leuven_%28891%29 - Franks destroy heathens that were planning on looting churches and killing woman and children (as they do). Vikings stop murdering villagers in France for a while because they're scared of the French!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Paris_%28885%E2%80%9386%29 - Hailed as being successfull by the Viking scum, in reality they raided an undefended Paris and then fled with their tails between their legs once Charles the Fat arrived
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus%27%E2%80%93Byzantine_War_%28860%29 - Attacked the Byzantines when their army was driving back the Arab hordes, murdered many woman and children before fleeing in fear at the sight of the returning Greeks
This one here is a very important one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus%27%E2%80%93Byzantine_War_%28941%29 - 15(!) Greek Ships defeat the Viking navy of over 1,000 ships. The Vikings who have landed then flee when the army comes to defeat them.
>Instigated by the israelites (Khazars - revenge for persecution by the Greeks)
>The Vikings were israeli puppets
Not even surprised
I mean wouldn’t that be a given anyway, considering most people have Charlemagne as their ancestor?
>most people have Charlemagne as their ancestor
there's no prove of that