If their arguments were any good then they wouldn't have become a minority to the point where they were easily overpowered and oppressed.
Think about it.
Based moron glorifying the extermination of his own culture by spiritual semites. Peak cuckoldry.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I kneel to big israeli wiener.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pagans are weak morons who can't fight for shit
You will never be a Roman troony
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wow, you seem triggered.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Wow, you seem triggered.
You're projecting. Why would I be triggered by the pagans being defeated by Christians or your Roman troony larp?
2 years ago
Anonymous
My people accepted Christianity freely, spiritually we're a Semitic people living in a green desert. Discovering the teachings of the wise and venerable Hebrews was like a lost tribe returning to the fold.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You were groomed
2 years ago
Anonymous
Show me where the priest touched you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Irish are literally one of the Lost Tribes of Israel, Dan specifically >Tuatha de DANAAN
2 years ago
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The Tuath De Danaan are not the OG irish though, just some relatively late-age conquerors of ireland with much mysticism surrounding them, but iirc they even had druids with them
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Greek wrote the OT at the Library of Alexandria. They took the name of Dan from the Egyptian enemies, the Denyon, who were among the Sea Peoples who invaded from Europe. It was very likely a reference to Danes, who had already moved down to Greece around the time of the late BAC as cloak clasps and israeliteelry attests. Even the earliest Doric cloak claps used by Spartans resembled those found in Denmark.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The Greek wrote the OT at the Library of Alexandria. They took the name of Dan from the Egyptian enemies, the Denyon, who were among the Sea Peoples who invaded from Europe. It was very likely a reference to Danes, who had already moved down to Greece around the time of the late BAC as cloak clasps and israeliteelry attests. Even the earliest Doric cloak claps used by Spartans resembled those found in Denmark.
AWWWWW SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTT.... WE WUZ SEA PEOPLES N SHIEEEET
The Legions would disagree with you! The Christcucks could have just ignored them, but the Xtian Emperors couldn't do that! Why?!!? It's called the Age of "The Failure of Nerve" and the 1st Christian Emperor(s) had it in Spades!
Well what can you expect from a religious group that go on missions to convert the masses? You didn’t see pagans going out and trying to add random strangers into pagan circles.
That is because ethnic religions are not proselytizing. They are not international, like Christianity or Islam. They are created by a certain people for a certain people. It is a product designed to be consumed internally, not to be exported necessarily.
I don't see how Tolkien alone is enough to revive ethnic religions. If you have read the Silmarilion you'll see that Tolkien's theogony is essentially Christian, not Platonic. Tolkien himself was a devout Christian, and also was a good friend of C.S. Lewis, another devote Christian and theologian.
No, Tokien would certainly fail to revive ethnic religions. His books are seen as purely mythological, which is what he intended. He wanted to create a European mythos for the British common man.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tolkien ironically despite being Catholic resuscitated pagan religion basically single handily.
Many pagan groups were inspired by his book.
The issue is the stigma created by the Nutzis worked against this phenomenon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Aesthetics are important. They inspire us and motivate us. But without a strong philosophical background, you're just larping. The ethnic religions need to be more than just a teenage phase. We need grown, educated men promoting our religion using sound arguments and philosophical dialectics. We need people like Vlasis Rasias or Stephen mcNallen.
Thanks for the article. I'll read it. By the way, the term "pagan" is a derogatory term invented by Christians to mock polytheists. It basically means "rural peasant". Unless you consider yourself a peasant, don't use the term pagan to refer to yourself.
>So basically gatekeeping
The frick does that mean? >What if an outsider wanted to join and is willing to put in the time to be culturalized by that group?
That's up to the group whether they will accept him or not. Personally, if somebody made an effort to learn the language, learn the customs, learn the history, I wouldn't have a problem in accepting them and considering them part of my group. But that's not proselytizing. I am not seeking to convert him.
Also, it would be hard for me to accept peoples who are not Indo-European or European. I think non-Europeans are simply too different and too numerous to integrate. The goal is to preserve our culture.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Gatekeeping is when you prevent unwanted people from joining your group and or hobby. >>That's up to the group whether they will accept him or not. Personally, if somebody made an effort to learn the language, learn the customs, learn the history, I wouldn't have a problem in accepting them and considering them part of my group. But that's not proselytizing. I am not seeking to convert him. >>Also, it would be hard for me to accept peoples who are not Indo-European or European. I think non-Europeans are simply too different and too numerous to integrate. The goal is to preserve our culture.
That’s understandable.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Gatekeeping is when you prevent unwanted people from joining your group and or hobby.
If your group is called "WW1 veterans", that automatically excludes people who are not ww1 veterans. It's not a matter of gatekeeping; it's about the nature of the group.
In the case of native/ethnic religions, they are linked to a people by definition. I can't become a native American just because I feel like it, no matter how much I try. It's okay to feel a connection with native America deities or customs. But I must respect the desire of native Americans to preserve what little they can from their culture. I can't force them to accept me into their group, and I won't accuse them of "gatekeeping".
Because Christianity is better suited for uniting a rapidly urbanizing, alienated, population. Paganism makes sense when you're living in tribes, and interactions with nature are a daily part of life. Paganism doesn't make sense when you're a rootless bugman living in a city. There's a reason Christianity first began to spread to the urban masses of Rome, who then spread it to the urban elites, who then forced it upon everyone else by sword.
The pagans simply had no zeal to try to keep their religion alive and in the face of the rise of Christianity just faced it with relative apathy thinking Christians would just take a live and let live attitude. Christians also had a strong network that took care of the sick and poor, something pagans also lacked.
>The pagans simply had no zeal to try to keep their religion alive
Nah, Paganism had to be killed off with totalitarianism and murder enforced by the upper classes; And rural areas of officially "Christian" nations still often worshiped the old gods in secret hundreds of years after christianization .
Purges, killings, persecutions, seizing property owned by philosophers and polytheists, destruction of temples, etc etc etc.
The entire Roman imperial machine was dedicated on the destruction of polytheism, and they almost achieved it. Thankfully, parts of Greece remained polytheistic at least until the 16th century. Platonic philosophers lived and taught in Eastern Rome until the 8th century, maybe later. From all the polytheistic traditions, Hellenism is the best documented. Not only do we know what ancient philosophers/polytheists believed about the world, but we also know a lot about how they worshiped the Gods.
> Why did paganism fall into obscurity?
Two reasons, but they are really just one. First, Greece (and later the Eastern Roman Empire) lost power. Roman emperors like Justinian and Theodosius were extremely anti-Greek. They hated the Hellenic people, their philosophies and Gods. The Empire eventually fell. At the same time though, the Western part of what used to be Rome was flourishing. Christians were using a modified, corrupt version of Plato to spread their faith to central and northern Europe. The northern Europeans had no philosophies, no intellectual that could respond to the pseudo-Platonic arguments of the Christianoids. In other words, even though their polytheism was sound, it lacked the philosophical background of the Greeks. They eventually succumbed to the Christian faith, which was fueled by Platonic dialectics.
No one knows why the frick Greeks abandoned Hellenism for the more much simplistic Christianity, the more tribal paganisms lacked the raw power to fight back against christian militarized Germanic christian armies.
It’s not just military but conversion missions to the masses, that’s the number 1 reason why Christianity won in the end. Don’t feel down though as there are a bunch of Greeks that worship the gods.
Became artificial trash, animism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit >>>>>>> paganism
Government persecution.
They had no arguments.
They were murdered along with their arguments or had to quickly find somewhere else to live outside of the RE.
If their arguments were any good then they wouldn't have become a minority to the point where they were easily overpowered and oppressed.
Think about it.
Based moron glorifying the extermination of his own culture by spiritual semites. Peak cuckoldry.
I kneel to big israeli wiener.
Pagans are weak morons who can't fight for shit
You will never be a Roman troony
Wow, you seem triggered.
>Wow, you seem triggered.
You're projecting. Why would I be triggered by the pagans being defeated by Christians or your Roman troony larp?
My people accepted Christianity freely, spiritually we're a Semitic people living in a green desert. Discovering the teachings of the wise and venerable Hebrews was like a lost tribe returning to the fold.
You were groomed
Show me where the priest touched you.
The Irish are literally one of the Lost Tribes of Israel, Dan specifically
>Tuatha de DANAAN
The Tuath De Danaan are not the OG irish though, just some relatively late-age conquerors of ireland with much mysticism surrounding them, but iirc they even had druids with them
The Greek wrote the OT at the Library of Alexandria. They took the name of Dan from the Egyptian enemies, the Denyon, who were among the Sea Peoples who invaded from Europe. It was very likely a reference to Danes, who had already moved down to Greece around the time of the late BAC as cloak clasps and israeliteelry attests. Even the earliest Doric cloak claps used by Spartans resembled those found in Denmark.
>The Greek wrote the OT at the Library of Alexandria. They took the name of Dan from the Egyptian enemies, the Denyon, who were among the Sea Peoples who invaded from Europe. It was very likely a reference to Danes, who had already moved down to Greece around the time of the late BAC as cloak clasps and israeliteelry attests. Even the earliest Doric cloak claps used by Spartans resembled those found in Denmark.
AWWWWW SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTT.... WE WUZ SEA PEOPLES N SHIEEEET
The Legions would disagree with you! The Christcucks could have just ignored them, but the Xtian Emperors couldn't do that! Why?!!? It's called the Age of "The Failure of Nerve" and the 1st Christian Emperor(s) had it in Spades!
Well what can you expect from a religious group that go on missions to convert the masses? You didn’t see pagans going out and trying to add random strangers into pagan circles.
That is because ethnic religions are not proselytizing. They are not international, like Christianity or Islam. They are created by a certain people for a certain people. It is a product designed to be consumed internally, not to be exported necessarily.
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Tolkien, he advocated a more positive welcoming and authentic pagan study
I don't see how Tolkien alone is enough to revive ethnic religions. If you have read the Silmarilion you'll see that Tolkien's theogony is essentially Christian, not Platonic. Tolkien himself was a devout Christian, and also was a good friend of C.S. Lewis, another devote Christian and theologian.
No, Tokien would certainly fail to revive ethnic religions. His books are seen as purely mythological, which is what he intended. He wanted to create a European mythos for the British common man.
Tolkien ironically despite being Catholic resuscitated pagan religion basically single handily.
Many pagan groups were inspired by his book.
The issue is the stigma created by the Nutzis worked against this phenomenon.
Aesthetics are important. They inspire us and motivate us. But without a strong philosophical background, you're just larping. The ethnic religions need to be more than just a teenage phase. We need grown, educated men promoting our religion using sound arguments and philosophical dialectics. We need people like Vlasis Rasias or Stephen mcNallen.
Thanks for the article. I'll read it. By the way, the term "pagan" is a derogatory term invented by Christians to mock polytheists. It basically means "rural peasant". Unless you consider yourself a peasant, don't use the term pagan to refer to yourself.
https://sacredsandwich.com/2017/10/26/the-sad-truth-of-tolkien-spirituality/
heres an article about it.
So basically gatekeeping? What if an outsider wanted to join and is willing to put in the time to be culturalized by that group?
>So basically gatekeeping
The frick does that mean?
>What if an outsider wanted to join and is willing to put in the time to be culturalized by that group?
That's up to the group whether they will accept him or not. Personally, if somebody made an effort to learn the language, learn the customs, learn the history, I wouldn't have a problem in accepting them and considering them part of my group. But that's not proselytizing. I am not seeking to convert him.
Also, it would be hard for me to accept peoples who are not Indo-European or European. I think non-Europeans are simply too different and too numerous to integrate. The goal is to preserve our culture.
Gatekeeping is when you prevent unwanted people from joining your group and or hobby.
>>That's up to the group whether they will accept him or not. Personally, if somebody made an effort to learn the language, learn the customs, learn the history, I wouldn't have a problem in accepting them and considering them part of my group. But that's not proselytizing. I am not seeking to convert him.
>>Also, it would be hard for me to accept peoples who are not Indo-European or European. I think non-Europeans are simply too different and too numerous to integrate. The goal is to preserve our culture.
That’s understandable.
>Gatekeeping is when you prevent unwanted people from joining your group and or hobby.
If your group is called "WW1 veterans", that automatically excludes people who are not ww1 veterans. It's not a matter of gatekeeping; it's about the nature of the group.
In the case of native/ethnic religions, they are linked to a people by definition. I can't become a native American just because I feel like it, no matter how much I try. It's okay to feel a connection with native America deities or customs. But I must respect the desire of native Americans to preserve what little they can from their culture. I can't force them to accept me into their group, and I won't accuse them of "gatekeeping".
richard dawkins memetics
Because Christianity is better suited for uniting a rapidly urbanizing, alienated, population. Paganism makes sense when you're living in tribes, and interactions with nature are a daily part of life. Paganism doesn't make sense when you're a rootless bugman living in a city. There's a reason Christianity first began to spread to the urban masses of Rome, who then spread it to the urban elites, who then forced it upon everyone else by sword.
The pagans simply had no zeal to try to keep their religion alive and in the face of the rise of Christianity just faced it with relative apathy thinking Christians would just take a live and let live attitude. Christians also had a strong network that took care of the sick and poor, something pagans also lacked.
>The pagans simply had no zeal to try to keep their religion alive
Nah, Paganism had to be killed off with totalitarianism and murder enforced by the upper classes; And rural areas of officially "Christian" nations still often worshiped the old gods in secret hundreds of years after christianization .
Purges, killings, persecutions, seizing property owned by philosophers and polytheists, destruction of temples, etc etc etc.
The entire Roman imperial machine was dedicated on the destruction of polytheism, and they almost achieved it. Thankfully, parts of Greece remained polytheistic at least until the 16th century. Platonic philosophers lived and taught in Eastern Rome until the 8th century, maybe later. From all the polytheistic traditions, Hellenism is the best documented. Not only do we know what ancient philosophers/polytheists believed about the world, but we also know a lot about how they worshiped the Gods.
> Why did paganism fall into obscurity?
Two reasons, but they are really just one. First, Greece (and later the Eastern Roman Empire) lost power. Roman emperors like Justinian and Theodosius were extremely anti-Greek. They hated the Hellenic people, their philosophies and Gods. The Empire eventually fell. At the same time though, the Western part of what used to be Rome was flourishing. Christians were using a modified, corrupt version of Plato to spread their faith to central and northern Europe. The northern Europeans had no philosophies, no intellectual that could respond to the pseudo-Platonic arguments of the Christianoids. In other words, even though their polytheism was sound, it lacked the philosophical background of the Greeks. They eventually succumbed to the Christian faith, which was fueled by Platonic dialectics.
germans ruined it with their autism, ironically if the fricking nazis didn't exist Tolkien alone would have revived it.
Mongols are still pagan.
We're still here my friend, it never went away
Universalizing religions like Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism are more amenable to large, diverse empires than ethnoreligions are.
Oy vey!
The Sea Peoples literally came from Europe. It's where the name "Yhwh" comes from- Jove.
No one knows why the frick Greeks abandoned Hellenism for the more much simplistic Christianity, the more tribal paganisms lacked the raw power to fight back against christian militarized Germanic christian armies.
It’s not just military but conversion missions to the masses, that’s the number 1 reason why Christianity won in the end. Don’t feel down though as there are a bunch of Greeks that worship the gods.