Ubuntu used to be pretty good, until they started pushing snaps down your throat.
OpenSUSE, Fedora all basically require you to give root access to third party repository maintainers to have codec support.
Debian is too outdated (yes, really!) for desktop usage. Sid from my experience has been pretty unstable.
Arch Linux takes way too much time to set up. The install script broke every time I wanted to do an encrypted install (still an open bug by the way) and I don't want to spend hours configuring my system, only to have an update break something else.
I've basically used most distributions under the sun. Ubuntu is the least worst but snaps make it much worse. I need Chromium for MS Teams (refuses to work properly on Firefox) and it's in a snap...
Linux Mint is fine too, but it doesn't have a KDE install option.
Flatpak is unacceptable, I want to use ONLY my distributor's repositories.
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Your first warning was pulseaudio. Your second was systemd, and now they no longer care, because the money says to go a certain way, and since they have nothing and are happy they obey.
I remember getting into Linux a few years back and it really wasn't that bad. The technology has gotten better in many cases, but the distributions have only got worse.
Look at openSUSE and Fedora, they, not so long ago, removed hardware acceleration support for media.
I'll name a few.
>Plasma 6 supports HDR, Plasma 5.27 doesn't
>Nvidia 550 has a complete open kernel, 525 doesn't
>Latest Firefox can do offline translations, the ESR version can't
>Mesa 23 has RADV_PERFTEST=gpl which massively improves performance on wine games, whatever Debian ships with doesn't have it
I can name a few more but these are the biggest issues. Whatever technological improvements come to Linux you just stay behind on for 2 years.
>Debian is too outdated
What features are you missing due to "outdated software"? I bet you can't even name 3
The current version of Blender is 4.1 which came out yesterday. The version of Blender in the Debian repositories is 3.4.1. AMD and Intel Arc GPUs don't get hardware ray tracing acceleration support until 3.6 and don't get GPU-accelerated denoising until 4.1, which means noticeably slower rendering performance for users of those GPUs.
That's a weird issue to pin to Debian, why would you even wait for fricking Debian to update their Blender repository?
Especially since you can just download Blender directlly or install the flatpak, which is maintained by the Blender Foundation,
Why even have software repositories if you're just going to tell users to install software manually?
Somewhere during corona I had Mint install a old driver that wasn't maintained and working anymore for xbox controller support. After that I just switch to FEDora. It has its own bullshit, but it isn't as moronic as arch or debian where you either have to read release notes or your shit is outdated.
how can you have time to shitpost on IQfy but not to figure out how to partition a disk and run pacstrap
anyway use endeavour
No, I know how to set up Arch. I've done it manually a few times but I just don't see the point.
>how can you have time to shitpost on IQfy but not to figure out how to partition a disk and run pacstrap
This board would be only be about iPhone vs. Android if the average Anon around here had a triple digit IQ.
Enter the void.
https://voidlinux.org/
Too small repository.
>Sid from my experience has been pretty unstable
then debian/devuan testing?
alpine if you don't need glibc
I do need glibc for Nvidia drivers among other things/
Making XBPS templates is easy as frick, you just want something to complain about
literally what packages are you missing
>Ubuntu is the least worst but snaps make it much worse. I need Chromium for MS Teams (refuses to work properly on Firefox) and it's in a snap...
build it from source then
Yes, I'll build it for source for 6 hours straight, keep myself updated on security updates and do this constantly.
This is unreasonable.
YOU SUCK
win 7 still running fine here
Arch + GUI installer is great, like endeavourOS
The core of Wingay fundamentally has not been changed since Win 7 yet we're fine with that.
This refers to Debian being outdated. My dumbfrick brain forgets to mention it.
windows 8 was a fundamental change
I know it added a few things like USB 3.0 support and the user experience was changed drastically, but the core system pretty much carries over from Win 7. I'm probably just gobbledeeasiatic here because I didn't use Windows since 7.
>but the core system pretty much carries over from Win 7
no, windows 8 was a fundamental change for the core systems. significant speedups and rewrites. most programs with windows 10 support unofficially work on windows 8, but not on 7 without low level hacks
from my own experience digging through docs there was a LOT of changes to the core networking systems. and much more. here is one example i quickly found that should get you the idea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_8#Video_subsystem
>Arch Linux takes way too much time to set up. The install script broke every time I wanted to do an encrypted install (still an open bug by the way)
Yeah I tried the install script once and it never worked (in a VM), but I always do a manual install anyway. To do an encrypted tpm secureboot w.e install I did spend a while reading the manuals until I understood enough to go through with it and I didn't have problems.
Updates breaking stuff is definitely an inconvenience, but how much of an inconvenience it is depends on the quality of your backups and knowledge of how to reverse things like downgrading a package.
Not having paid developers with a unified vision of what the UX of linux should be.
Describe the perfect distro, here's mine
>Ubuntu or Debian based
>KDE Plasma
>Custom graphical package manager and updater like MintInstall/MintUpdate or Pamac instead of Discover
>flatpak OOTB and integrated with graphical package manager
>no snap
>codecs OOTB
>graphical kernel manager, graphical driver manager, graphical log viewer and troubleshooting utility like on Mint
to be honest I really just want Mint KDE Edition
This is exactly what I want basically. I don't care about Flatpaks at all.
Mint is a really good distro but that it has no KDE version really sucks.
can't fathom why a cinnamon user would miss plasma
lack of problems in your lives?
relatively new linux user here but what's the deal with snap wrt ubuntu. i've used it + mint + debian for a while (mainly on servers for selfhosting and a few times on desktops) and every single time i've just used apt to install what i need.
what is snap and why is it bad. also why do i frequently see people talking shit about systemd. what does it do?
From my experience, Snaps take forever to start, integrate poorly with the system and they use a closed source backend.
naruhodo, thanks for the answers anons. the second response does explain why my chrome always said it was out of date even though i ran apt update and upgrade regularly. idr how i installed it but it couldn't have been through apt then.
Snap has a proprietary back-end, which upsets people.
Ubuntu removed Firefox and Chrome (maybe more) from their apt repository and replaced them with snap, which upset people.
Snap is slower to start on cold boot.
Snap does not integrate with update utilities like KDE's Discover, making Kubuntu worse out of the box.
Snapcraft has hosted malware (albeit very obvious one) and is kind of a fricking mess, look at their ffmpeg and see how the "stable" version is dated 2018.
Pop!_OS homosexual.
NixOS doesn`t have any of the problems you mentioned (except maybe time to set it up but once it`s set it`s indestructible).
>Fedora all basically require you to give root access to third party repository maintainers to have codec support
Im going to install FEDora, as a privacy concerned schizo should i worry?
>all Linux "disttributions" suck because i'm fricking moronic
nice blogpost, not my problem THOUGH