>if Sony performs a warranty repair, Sony will likely charge you a significant service fee >the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality
>the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality
Based. Not an influensoor. I'd even gut that shit out.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
"Advanced camera functionality" is Sony-speak for "works after 6PM".
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's been a few years since I owned a Sony phone but from recollections you could back up your DRM keys and put the phone back to stock.
Bootloader
Yes, but there is a caveat. You can unlock the bootloader on Motorola phones and their dev support is probably the best of any Android phone right now. The hardware is cheap and the high end flagship are a good spec for a decent price. But, bootloader unlock also is dependent on where you got the phone and where you live. For instance, I had a Fold 4 which I unlocked a year back but because I live in the UK, there was some doubt whether I'd be able to do this because of Brexit and without EU law coverage, Samsung were going to lock the bootloader. Luckily the option was still available but I know there's issues if you live in the US, locked to carriers, etc.
You don't.
https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Supported_Devices/
They aren't and unlocked BL is not the only requirement. If you're just gonna install a custom android ROM, even without gapps, you're still running google software.
Google actually dosen't care if you install alternative OSs on the Pixel line, they literally made them for developers. It won't even void the warranty.
Because Android needs a development platform phone, and that's pretty much the Pixel line. AOSP best supports the Pixel because that was what it was made for. But also, ironically Google also invested a lot of money into hardware security features that actually work, and made it so alternative OSs could actually use those features. (Like a proper verified boot that's validated by the phone's secure element, thus GrapheneOS is the *only* alternative OS that actually uses verified boot. The rest are hacks in comparsion.)
I think people here misunderstand that Google is a fairly large company with many branches, some of them with different interests.
are you talking about GrapheneOS? it's not their fault that Google is the only company that gives you an option to easily unlock and relock (with custom roms) bootloader, has great hardware security features and has proper updates (for firmware too) instead of just giving you one OS update and telling you to frick off like any other company.
I think what the OP is asking is why GrapheneOS is only available on the Pixel line of phones and tablets. Yes, Pixels have vanilla Android as Google intended but to remove Google telemetry, you need to install Graphene or other custom firmware.
AOSP is "vanilla", not Google's "Pixel Experience" aka "Numerous Good Morning Sirs OS"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You have never seen raw android. What google ships with pixels is not it.
maybe I'm moronic or drunk or both but how is the pixel android not vanilla if android is literally google's baby?
I think what the OP is asking is why GrapheneOS is only available on the Pixel line of phones and tablets. Yes, Pixels have vanilla Android as Google intended but to remove Google telemetry, you need to install Graphene or other custom firmware.
i see
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
There is android and there's google brand android. It's like chromium and chrome. Both made by google but one is blatantly more spyware infested.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
damn, I am truly drunk AND moronic, this chromium chrome comparison made it. thanks anon.
Because they are the only mainstream phones with unlockable bootloaders
https://developer.sony.com/open-source/aosp-on-xperia-open-devices
>if Sony performs a warranty repair, Sony will likely charge you a significant service fee
>the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality
>the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality
Based. Not an influensoor. I'd even gut that shit out.
"Advanced camera functionality" is Sony-speak for "works after 6PM".
It's been a few years since I owned a Sony phone but from recollections you could back up your DRM keys and put the phone back to stock.
Yes, but there is a caveat. You can unlock the bootloader on Motorola phones and their dev support is probably the best of any Android phone right now. The hardware is cheap and the high end flagship are a good spec for a decent price. But, bootloader unlock also is dependent on where you got the phone and where you live. For instance, I had a Fold 4 which I unlocked a year back but because I live in the UK, there was some doubt whether I'd be able to do this because of Brexit and without EU law coverage, Samsung were going to lock the bootloader. Luckily the option was still available but I know there's issues if you live in the US, locked to carriers, etc.
You don't. You can install LOS without gapps on a vast majority of devices.
Not true. Again there are numerous phones where you can unlock the bootloader.
Moto phones?
What, to install LOS or unlock the bootloader?
Bootloader
You don't.
https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Supported_Devices/
They aren't and unlocked BL is not the only requirement. If you're just gonna install a custom android ROM, even without gapps, you're still running google software.
Satan doesnt like you removing his spyware
Google actually dosen't care if you install alternative OSs on the Pixel line, they literally made them for developers. It won't even void the warranty.
Because Android needs a development platform phone, and that's pretty much the Pixel line. AOSP best supports the Pixel because that was what it was made for. But also, ironically Google also invested a lot of money into hardware security features that actually work, and made it so alternative OSs could actually use those features. (Like a proper verified boot that's validated by the phone's secure element, thus GrapheneOS is the *only* alternative OS that actually uses verified boot. The rest are hacks in comparsion.)
I think people here misunderstand that Google is a fairly large company with many branches, some of them with different interests.
idk
Because you give Google money regardless. If you really think about you're more or less paying a premium to not use Google software.
are you talking about GrapheneOS? it's not their fault that Google is the only company that gives you an option to easily unlock and relock (with custom roms) bootloader, has great hardware security features and has proper updates (for firmware too) instead of just giving you one OS update and telling you to frick off like any other company.
YOU make zero sense. why would you drop vanilla android on a pixel?
>pixel
>vanilla android
Who's gonna tell him.
who's gonna tell me what
how is the pixel android not the most vanilla you can get?
are you moronic?
I think what the OP is asking is why GrapheneOS is only available on the Pixel line of phones and tablets. Yes, Pixels have vanilla Android as Google intended but to remove Google telemetry, you need to install Graphene or other custom firmware.
AOSP is "vanilla", not Google's "Pixel Experience" aka "Numerous Good Morning Sirs OS"
maybe I'm moronic or drunk or both but how is the pixel android not vanilla if android is literally google's baby?
i see
There is android and there's google brand android. It's like chromium and chrome. Both made by google but one is blatantly more spyware infested.
damn, I am truly drunk AND moronic, this chromium chrome comparison made it. thanks anon.
You have never seen raw android. What google ships with pixels is not it.
just buy a xiaomi. most of them support boot unlocking and custom roms
xiaomi chinese phone with customized CCP hardware to spy on you regardless of the OS running on top