Python absolutely, that language ecnourages absolutely abysmal styles of coding. The biggest mistake Java ever made was not screaming at programmers for ever using null anywhere in their code. Other than that it's fine.
>most used languages in the world so that means they're bad >sour grapes from NEETs who have never worked a day in their life >inveterate IQfynoid contrarianism
that's pretty much it
When will you realise that python is just java for toddlers and javascript is java for browsers?
2 years ago
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When they actually are at all those things.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Listen here buddy, I am an assembly pro and know what I'm talking about.
2 years ago
Anonymous
An assembly pro wouldn't call himself one
bich
2 years ago
Anonymous
>python is just java for toddlers
Python can handle unsigned integers like a real language should, javajeets think they're too good for them. So no, I think java is just shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Muh unsigned integers.
Since when have you needed a positive 32 bit number in range 2^31,2^32-1?
2 years ago
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He is a coping pajeet.
Not realizing that JS can store every int as a double precision 64 bit float and still smoke Python in performance.
2 years ago
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describe the data structure for an unsigned int in python
Because they work, and you can do productive things with both. IQfy hates this, and rather wants you to leak memory and segfault yourself to death with C.
Don't listen to morons like these.
Fricking false equivalence brainlets.
Not wanting to use Java / Python != using C
Java will always remain a street shitter language. So will Python, keep coping pajeets.
Because they work, and you can do productive things with both. IQfy hates this, and rather wants you to leak memory and segfault yourself to death with C.
Two casts: professionals that realize the capability of Java's typesafe OOP and have had OOP course in university
Vs
Script kiddies that learn python badly and love its simplicity and cant even analyse objectivically its pitfalls
>Why do people hate these two languages?
Because they get work done. IQfy NEETs are inherently distrustful of anything that works whether its a desktop environment or a person.
Java is more of a religion than a language. It doesn't have higher order functions (unlike python, javascript, etc), so instead you have to create an interface and a class to pass stuff like callbacks around.
Instead of being ashamed of this verbose workaround, they called it a "programming pattern". Matter of fact they created two equal patterns (command and strategy) but they like to pretend like these two are somehow distinct. The distinction, of course, is philosophic. And that's the problem: java is a bullshit language, not a pragmatic one.
I want to hammer this point: one of the fundamental concepts of java programming, patterns, is not based on objective factors, but vague ideas.
Compare this to lisp's CLOS, which is presented as a bag of features useful for programming rather than an ideology
I do GIS for a living and Python is actually god for GIS and data science.
Do not listen homosexuals on this board who had never done anything in their lifes.
what you really mean is that there are python compatible libraries that are good for your work, which really has no bearing on python as a language or a platform
>Why do people hate Java and Python
Because they use them.
There are two sorts of programming languages: the ones that are hated, and the other ones that nobody uses.
Java: google "how to X" or "can I X in Java." Go on, do it. That's why.
Python: significant whitespace is stupid but whatever, no changing its mind at this point and it's not like that particular disease is spreading. I don't mind the language other than that, but the 1st year hobbyists who insist that Python is good for everything just because data scientists use it are a bit insufferable.
>I don't mind the language other than that, but the 1st year hobbyists who insist that Python is good for everything just because data scientists use it are a bit insufferable.
Partly the reason I'm thinking about abandoning my DS concentration.
java. ugly, verbose, designed for dumb people
python: slow, not as simple as it wants you to believe
i thought people hate them because of how permissive both languages are for bad coding practices
Python absolutely, that language ecnourages absolutely abysmal styles of coding. The biggest mistake Java ever made was not screaming at programmers for ever using null anywhere in their code. Other than that it's fine.
Fortunately, now most libraries use @Nullable annotations.
>designed for dumb people
Elaborate, what's so dumb about it according to you?
>most used languages in the world so that means they're bad
>sour grapes from NEETs who have never worked a day in their life
>inveterate IQfynoid contrarianism
that's pretty much it
Based non-NEET and non-chudcel
they're slow
This, javascript is like a cancer that won't dye off like flash did.
>javascript
tf you on about? JS has nothing to do with these two languages. This dumb shit is literally everything in this thread.
When will you realise that python is just java for toddlers and javascript is java for browsers?
When they actually are at all those things.
Listen here buddy, I am an assembly pro and know what I'm talking about.
An assembly pro wouldn't call himself one
bich
>python is just java for toddlers
Python can handle unsigned integers like a real language should, javajeets think they're too good for them. So no, I think java is just shit.
Muh unsigned integers.
Since when have you needed a positive 32 bit number in range 2^31,2^32-1?
He is a coping pajeet.
Not realizing that JS can store every int as a double precision 64 bit float and still smoke Python in performance.
describe the data structure for an unsigned int in python
once WASM has direct access to the DOM it's over for javascript. What will all the script kiddies do?
>Rust will replace Javascript in your lifetime
Based.
Lets see how fast you can write a REST webserver in C
Don't listen to morons like these.
Fricking false equivalence brainlets.
Not wanting to use Java / Python != using C
Java will always remain a street shitter language. So will Python, keep coping pajeets.
Both are used by poojeets.
Because they work, and you can do productive things with both. IQfy hates this, and rather wants you to leak memory and segfault yourself to death with C.
Die*
Two casts: professionals that realize the capability of Java's typesafe OOP and have had OOP course in university
Vs
Script kiddies that learn python badly and love its simplicity and cant even analyse objectivically its pitfalls
except c# is objectively better than Java as a language and since .net core/5/6 as a platform
itt wrench experts analyze and argue about wrenches while chad takes wrench and makes and sells something that helps people.
>Why do people hate these two languages?
Because they get work done. IQfy NEETs are inherently distrustful of anything that works whether its a desktop environment or a person.
Lol, that pic
Because Google and Microsoft don't own it
Because Go and C# are better.
Java is more of a religion than a language. It doesn't have higher order functions (unlike python, javascript, etc), so instead you have to create an interface and a class to pass stuff like callbacks around.
Instead of being ashamed of this verbose workaround, they called it a "programming pattern". Matter of fact they created two equal patterns (command and strategy) but they like to pretend like these two are somehow distinct. The distinction, of course, is philosophic. And that's the problem: java is a bullshit language, not a pragmatic one.
I want to hammer this point: one of the fundamental concepts of java programming, patterns, is not based on objective factors, but vague ideas.
Compare this to lisp's CLOS, which is presented as a bag of features useful for programming rather than an ideology
one is for pajeets
second for volksturm programmers
I do GIS for a living and Python is actually god for GIS and data science.
Do not listen homosexuals on this board who had never done anything in their lifes.
what you really mean is that there are python compatible libraries that are good for your work, which really has no bearing on python as a language or a platform
the java jeet meme is a microsoft psyop
Pajeet please.
Isn't it past your bedtime Mr. Ellison? You geriatric frick.
Sir please be finding your redemption code in your email
>Why do people hate Java and Python
Because they use them.
There are two sorts of programming languages: the ones that are hated, and the other ones that nobody uses.
Those are the only two languages you need
Python for quick scripting
Java for large scale applications
>Java for large scale applications
The first decade of the century is over old man.
Java: Pajeets, Boomers
Python: S oys, """academics"""
Every language is universally hated.
It is what it is.
Not my cup of tea. I prefer to go deep in the microsoft stack rather than wide in a lot of languages.
No hatred though. They are good.
Java: heavy VM, clunky, corporate, pain to distribute
Python: s l o w, just by picking it you threw out 90% of the performance, pain to distribute
Pajeetware and Boomerware
>Java
>Python
>C++
Basedware
>C#
>Go
>Rust
Pick your poison
>Pajeetware and Boomerware
>>Java
>>C++
>Basedware
>>C#
>>Go
>>Rust
>Pick your poison
Employment:
Java
Python
C++
C#
Memes:
Go
Rust
Java: google "how to X" or "can I X in Java." Go on, do it. That's why.
Python: significant whitespace is stupid but whatever, no changing its mind at this point and it's not like that particular disease is spreading. I don't mind the language other than that, but the 1st year hobbyists who insist that Python is good for everything just because data scientists use it are a bit insufferable.
>I don't mind the language other than that, but the 1st year hobbyists who insist that Python is good for everything just because data scientists use it are a bit insufferable.
Partly the reason I'm thinking about abandoning my DS concentration.
IQfy hate python becuase it's used by female coders.
Because they are industry standard
They are not bad, but they only serve as an introduction to better languages.
You learn Python, which drives you to learn other scripting langs such as JS, PHP, Ruby.
You learn Java, which drives you to learn other compiled langs such as C, C++, C#.