uuuuh... PREEETTY sure muh backdoored Intel ME has been in every single "core ix" chip ever made? not that a single shred of evidence exists of the ME sending data packets.
FX and Phenoms dont have them and still hold up for everday use so if you care that much then go and find an AM3+ mobo (good luck with that lol)
Yeah but they want everyone to upgrade to their latest best ME which lets them monitor conversations in-room from fluctuations in power supply fan speeds or something.
this, if the only thing you do is webbrowsing and office shit it's more than enough
Not even.
And you guys underestimate how big excel files can get.
It's absolute bare minimum for web browsing and it's a tremendous waste of electricity too. These machines should be getting sold, donated to the needy or recycled, in that order.
My 2500k idles at 4 watts and never exceeds 20 watts under load. Yes I undervolted it. It performs better than many of the latest laptop CPUs. The 2500k was renown for overclocking, but it undervolts like a charm too
It is relatively usable for browsing and basic things still and OCs well, but it will still be weak and not very efficient. Modern CPUs could probably run more cores faster with at least half the power draw.
Even a Phenom 9600 works fine. Its just limited, you immediately notice it when you install and unpack things. Its probably slower than a smartphone by now and the 2500K will be somewhen too.
It is easier to use, portable, and more suited to casual users such as yourself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no it isnt, i dont care, and no it isnt
2 years ago
Anonymous
It would save you a lot of money and time. That old computer is just a waste of space to you, and a smartphone would have a faster processor anyway. You may even make net money if you get a good price for it and buy a cheap or used phone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
now walk me through to how you got where you are, thinking you know these things, even though your opinions on their own are all objectively wrong
2 years ago
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You have an antiquated computer taking up space that you aren't using. It makes no logical sense to keep it when a smartphone would do all the same things so much better.
2 years ago
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the computer has to use no more than 16% of the CPU at any time. its small form factor, so it doesnt take up much space. and again, your opinions are wrong, and so is trying to make people follow your (still wrong) choices. its always the people doing the wrong thing trying this too
2 years ago
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>the computer has to use no more than 16% of the CPU at any time.
Right, so you aren't using it. Even a basic utility like 7zip would use more CPU than that. >its small form factor, so it doesnt take up much space.
A phone is smaller form factor. >your opinions are wrong
They're not. You're wasting your own time and money by clinging to a an outdated brick. Somebody who truly needs a desktop would have had two or three new ones by now.
2 years ago
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7zip doesnt use >16% of the CPU
im buying the exact same model in the first few months of next year by the way. i need a desktop. i dont need a phone.
2 years ago
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>7zip doesnt use >16% of the CPU
7zip uses my entire processor. >im buying the exact same model in the first few months of next year by the way.
Your money to lose. You only browse the web and check your email so you are better served by a smartphone or tablet.
2 years ago
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it sounds like you need a better processor. maybe you should "downgrade" to the intel i5 processor like the one i have in my machine which can use 7zip easily
2 years ago
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>it sounds like you need a better processor.
Of course, I always do. But my processor is considerably better than yours. I assume you don't know how to use the compression functions of 7zip?
2 years ago
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my processor can compress files on the computer even while i do other things on the computer. sounds like a you problem. your computer/life/time to waste though so i dont care. have fun though, cya
2 years ago
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>my processor can compress files on the computer even while i do other things on the computer.
Mine too, and better than yours. >have fun though, cya
Later. Consider recycling your primitive machine.
2 years ago
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you said it uses your entire CPU. it doesnt with mine
2 years ago
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>you said it uses your entire CPU.
Yes because I know how to use the compression functions effectively. Doesn't matter though as my system is still useable even at 99% CPU.
2 years ago
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weak bait altogether, just stop
2 years ago
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I'm only offering advice.
2 years ago
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not him but have you considered maybe minding your own business? but i hope he will be able to make you red in the face...
2 years ago
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>not him but have you considered maybe minding your own business?
He tried to justify his antiquated computer itt. He didn't have to do that and elicit a response from me.
2 years ago
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Maybe he wants to have a proper screen and keyboard, you zoom dumbfrick?
It's a meme as it doesn't work "literally everything" or whatever the frick. My main machine runs on a i5-2400 and, yeah, it works and internet stuff is absolutely a non-issue but anything that does require some more CPU horse power and was built around modern CPU generations you can forget about. Especially modern video games. It's cool that it still runs just fine for casual stuff, no doubt. A decade of usage for <200 bucks at the time is very good.
People today go out of their way to make their gaymes CPU limited.
It's why there is so much worry about what is the top-end gayming CPU and why most people aren't just chucking an i5 in with their 3090.
Personally I just see it as an excuse to consoome as much as possible.
It's fricking moronic specially now that anything will bring a 3090 to its knees if you enable RTX or use it for 4K native instead of copium 1080p AI upscales.
You are forgetting the chink mobo and the DDR4 ECC RAM. It's not so great of a deal, specially not for games since even the cheapest brand new CPU can outperform it.
It's good enough for a 1060 (maybe yeah even better cards at 1440p/2160p), handles web browsing and casual PC usage as well. Unless you need to run professional programs or you compile everything like a caveman, it's still fine.
A great many engineering/visual computers are still around using Sandy/Ivy because they've got software locked to the computer they installed it on. Using Autocad any Adobe/Autodesk program sold before 2015 means you don't have to pay monthly fees. Your city government is probably still using a Sandy somewhere to continue using Autocad 2009.
It's perfect as a light browsing machine and for small tasks. On a clean install this PC browsing the internet isn't that different from using my Ryzen 5800X PC. I use this mostly as my radio sdr interface / internet radio machine anyway.
it was released at the beginning of the inactive years
Intel was coasting and raking in the cash with minimum innervation
I hope to purchase the modern equivalent before the next period of inactivity
but I don't think we've hit that point yet and I don't see Intel ever accepting the #2 slot
> CPU made a decade ago > still has the same number of performance cores/threads as Apple's M1 and M2 chips > clocks higher than apple's crap (3.7GHz vs only 3.5GHz)
Applesisters...
i mean this is pretty much the takeaway from it, sandy bridge isn't impressing anyone anymore but it's acceptable for basic tasks still. if you don't play video games made in the last 10 years or edit video you will probably be fine. same shit with a mac.
I can still play quadruple A games why the frick would I upgrade? I can't play on ultra gay settings. Medium 45fps is more than enough. 60fps low if competivite game.
wtf are you poor or something? i play quintuple A games with AT LEAST 60 fps @ 8k, consider a quad sli sytem if you want to male it through the next semester
You are too young to understand it since you have never seen a world where cpu's roughly doubled in speed every year and any computer you bought turned into literal scrap heap by the time you finished playing your favorite 2-3 games.
The only thing it has going for it is that it's not backdoored
But I like the backdoor
Enjoy getting buttfricked. Seal that anus.
Intel CPUs have been compromised since they added unique serials with the Pentium 3
Only certain models of the P3 had those and they didn't return until Ivy Bridge.
if that's all it has going for it then it doesn't even have that. ME was in the chips since core 2 duo
Pretty sure my 2500k has Intel management engine
uuuuh... PREEETTY sure muh backdoored Intel ME has been in every single "core ix" chip ever made? not that a single shred of evidence exists of the ME sending data packets.
FX and Phenoms dont have them and still hold up for everday use so if you care that much then go and find an AM3+ mobo (good luck with that lol)
Hahaha post 9/11 NSA letting any tech company release new hardware without backdoor.
Yeah but they want everyone to upgrade to their latest best ME which lets them monitor conversations in-room from fluctuations in power supply fan speeds or something.
>Why do people cling to a car that only goes at 80 mph instead of buying a car that goes at 120 mph
Works fine for most tasks, perfectly usable. No need to upgrade
this, if the only thing you do is webbrowsing and office shit it's more than enough
Not even.
And you guys underestimate how big excel files can get.
It's absolute bare minimum for web browsing and it's a tremendous waste of electricity too. These machines should be getting sold, donated to the needy or recycled, in that order.
>muh power consumption.
Shit is such a fricking meme. $0.11 kw/h and I have to buy new shit?
This. And besides, the power you save with your new cpu you'll pay in winter for heating
Yes because wasting electricity harms not just your worthless wallet but the planet we all live in. Grow up.
you smell like a redditor
>tremendous waste of electricity
My 2500k idles at 4 watts and never exceeds 20 watts under load. Yes I undervolted it. It performs better than many of the latest laptop CPUs. The 2500k was renown for overclocking, but it undervolts like a charm too
It is relatively usable for browsing and basic things still and OCs well, but it will still be weak and not very efficient. Modern CPUs could probably run more cores faster with at least half the power draw.
Even a Phenom 9600 works fine. Its just limited, you immediately notice it when you install and unpack things. Its probably slower than a smartphone by now and the 2500K will be somewhen too.
Never obsolete.
It was obsolete when Ivy Bridge came out.
cope. my processor doesnt go above 16% usage
Just get a smartphone. You don't use your computer for anything anyway.
why
It is easier to use, portable, and more suited to casual users such as yourself.
no it isnt, i dont care, and no it isnt
It would save you a lot of money and time. That old computer is just a waste of space to you, and a smartphone would have a faster processor anyway. You may even make net money if you get a good price for it and buy a cheap or used phone.
now walk me through to how you got where you are, thinking you know these things, even though your opinions on their own are all objectively wrong
You have an antiquated computer taking up space that you aren't using. It makes no logical sense to keep it when a smartphone would do all the same things so much better.
the computer has to use no more than 16% of the CPU at any time. its small form factor, so it doesnt take up much space. and again, your opinions are wrong, and so is trying to make people follow your (still wrong) choices. its always the people doing the wrong thing trying this too
>the computer has to use no more than 16% of the CPU at any time.
Right, so you aren't using it. Even a basic utility like 7zip would use more CPU than that.
>its small form factor, so it doesnt take up much space.
A phone is smaller form factor.
>your opinions are wrong
They're not. You're wasting your own time and money by clinging to a an outdated brick. Somebody who truly needs a desktop would have had two or three new ones by now.
7zip doesnt use >16% of the CPU
im buying the exact same model in the first few months of next year by the way. i need a desktop. i dont need a phone.
>7zip doesnt use >16% of the CPU
7zip uses my entire processor.
>im buying the exact same model in the first few months of next year by the way.
Your money to lose. You only browse the web and check your email so you are better served by a smartphone or tablet.
it sounds like you need a better processor. maybe you should "downgrade" to the intel i5 processor like the one i have in my machine which can use 7zip easily
>it sounds like you need a better processor.
Of course, I always do. But my processor is considerably better than yours. I assume you don't know how to use the compression functions of 7zip?
my processor can compress files on the computer even while i do other things on the computer. sounds like a you problem. your computer/life/time to waste though so i dont care. have fun though, cya
>my processor can compress files on the computer even while i do other things on the computer.
Mine too, and better than yours.
>have fun though, cya
Later. Consider recycling your primitive machine.
you said it uses your entire CPU. it doesnt with mine
>you said it uses your entire CPU.
Yes because I know how to use the compression functions effectively. Doesn't matter though as my system is still useable even at 99% CPU.
weak bait altogether, just stop
I'm only offering advice.
not him but have you considered maybe minding your own business? but i hope he will be able to make you red in the face...
>not him but have you considered maybe minding your own business?
He tried to justify his antiquated computer itt. He didn't have to do that and elicit a response from me.
Maybe he wants to have a proper screen and keyboard, you zoom dumbfrick?
It's a meme as it doesn't work "literally everything" or whatever the frick. My main machine runs on a i5-2400 and, yeah, it works and internet stuff is absolutely a non-issue but anything that does require some more CPU horse power and was built around modern CPU generations you can forget about. Especially modern video games. It's cool that it still runs just fine for casual stuff, no doubt. A decade of usage for <200 bucks at the time is very good.
The vast majority if vidya is GPU limited, not CPU limited
People today go out of their way to make their gaymes CPU limited.
It's why there is so much worry about what is the top-end gayming CPU and why most people aren't just chucking an i5 in with their 3090.
Personally I just see it as an excuse to consoome as much as possible.
It's fricking moronic specially now that anything will bring a 3090 to its knees if you enable RTX or use it for 4K native instead of copium 1080p AI upscales.
still using a P4 2.0 ama
In a scale of pain ranging from 1 to 10, how do you rate the experience
$18 on ebay
You are forgetting the chink mobo and the DDR4 ECC RAM. It's not so great of a deal, specially not for games since even the cheapest brand new CPU can outperform it.
This.
The real chad move is getting a 1650 v2 (6 core 12 thread, can OC too), a used enthusiast x79 board and some DDR3 for quad channel.i
Absolutely not. An OC'd 1650 v2 @ 4.2 Ghz gets demolished by V3s.
Also this for 1650 v2 @ 4.3Ghz. The difference between Haswell and Sandy/Ivybridge is day and night.
Chink mobos are ~$80-%90 on ebay for new. You don't need ECC ram, but it does support ECC if you want to.
You will not be able to find a better gaming or workstation CPU for under $100.
Just because it was "Xeon" on it, doesn't mean its bad at gaming.
They aren't new, they build them from scraps and most are full of bugs and die within a year.
More fuds lmao. I've been using a cheap $90 chink x99 board for 3 years with a Xeon.
Congrats for winning the chink QA roulette, some people use chink SSDs for years too, meanwhile others die within weeks.
i think you can get them for cheaper than that but these are never obsolete!
It's a good enough match for something like a 1060
Still runnin an FX 8320 here. Still works fine.
It's good enough for a 1060 (maybe yeah even better cards at 1440p/2160p), handles web browsing and casual PC usage as well. Unless you need to run professional programs or you compile everything like a caveman, it's still fine.
All they do is post on image boards all day every day.
A great many engineering/visual computers are still around using Sandy/Ivy because they've got software locked to the computer they installed it on. Using Autocad any Adobe/Autodesk program sold before 2015 means you don't have to pay monthly fees. Your city government is probably still using a Sandy somewhere to continue using Autocad 2009.
Until I got ryzen a year ago i was running i3 2100. Its now in my mining rig, with the original motherboard as well.
Still performed better than a modern pentium system
Still using a pentium g3220
and yes, i need to change this lil homie even if it has been with me almost 10 years
Just get a 1150 Xeon, it's cheap as frick.
It's perfect as a light browsing machine and for small tasks. On a clean install this PC browsing the internet isn't that different from using my Ryzen 5800X PC. I use this mostly as my radio sdr interface / internet radio machine anyway.
the 2500K and the i7 2600 Served me well and I love them both.
I now have a ryzen 7 3800XT but i still keep my 2600 machine around for game servers and other home server tasks
>It's not even 8c
so ilike almost all software doesnt use 8 cores either?
meme number
Because I don't have any money for an upgrade.
Why do you cling to man ass?
If you aren't doing tasks like playing new AAA games, high end emulation, intensive tasks for a profession, or setting up Gentoo, it's still fine.
it was released at the beginning of the inactive years
Intel was coasting and raking in the cash with minimum innervation
I hope to purchase the modern equivalent before the next period of inactivity
but I don't think we've hit that point yet and I don't see Intel ever accepting the #2 slot
so this period of rapid innervation will continue
> CPU made a decade ago
> still has the same number of performance cores/threads as Apple's M1 and M2 chips
> clocks higher than apple's crap (3.7GHz vs only 3.5GHz)
Applesisters...
i mean this is pretty much the takeaway from it, sandy bridge isn't impressing anyone anymore but it's acceptable for basic tasks still. if you don't play video games made in the last 10 years or edit video you will probably be fine. same shit with a mac.
I can still play quadruple A games why the frick would I upgrade? I can't play on ultra gay settings. Medium 45fps is more than enough. 60fps low if competivite game.
>45fps
Unplayable
wtf are you poor or something? i play quintuple A games with AT LEAST 60 fps @ 8k, consider a quad sli sytem if you want to male it through the next semester
>It's not even 8c/16t.
Found the gaymer.
Back to IQfy, subhuman.
You are too young to understand it since you have never seen a world where cpu's roughly doubled in speed every year and any computer you bought turned into literal scrap heap by the time you finished playing your favorite 2-3 games.