>THE STANDARD MODEL >The Standard Model of particle physics is the theory describing three of the four known fundamental forces in the universe and classifying all known elementary particles >3 of 4
doesn't even describe all of them
useless
Scientists just want to look busy instead of actually figuring out why their current theories are such failures (see dark matter, quantum infinity, black holes, the list goes on)
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>Both theories work to extreme accuracy as far as we know. >Extreme accuracy >But not together
Yeah frick off shill, nothing has ever worked and the only proof is math, which could be anything.
None of that pic makes sense >radiate energy as if it were hot
everything hotter than surroundings radiates, BH are hot because it's compressed. Hawking's radiation is well studied >gravity as thermodynamics
idk if someone can derive GTR solely from thermodynamics >lqg
Lqg already has lots of problems to begin with >causal sets
nothing new, except on a purely theoretical basis, there's nothing preventing you from constructing a reverse set, in many cases elementary particles conserve T symmetry. >simulation
computer simulations are not convincing if you don't have experimental evidence >Holography
that comes from Ads/CFT which has nothing to do with LQG, nor the gravity and thermodynamics
>computer simulations are not convincing if you don't have experimental evidence
Pretty sure if you made simulation that builds up every atom from single quarks and electrons it would be enough proof onto itself.
There is more than enough experimental evidence to tell if your simulation is real or not, sadly QM and other larpers are not enough to make such simulation because you need to account for EVERYTHING instead of hiding behind few fancy math functions
If you're experiments = computer simulated results, we can pretty much rule out the possibility of any unknown phenomena that you didn't include in your simulation either due to lack of knowledge of such phenomena or some bias.
If you just simulate something, the reality may not agree depending on how you did it.
Duh which is why observing the simulation on scales and layers at resolutions and granularities matters
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>Duh which is why observing the simulation on scales and layers at resolutions and granularities matters
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They are unified; it's just the fundamental components of the field that allows the phenomenon of gravity to occur cannot be detected on its micro scale.
Not having this variable possibly through off some other variables because neglecting this as an issue
To understand what happens to particles in situations of extreme gravity, basically if photons or barions can transform into gravitons, so you need a theory where these different fields interact.
>why do we need a single consistent theory that describes the world by itself instead of multiple inconsistent theories, that can't even describe the world fully even when put together
maybe because if you need multiple incosistent theories to describe the world, then you don't really understand the world.
>Both theories work to extreme accuracy as far as we know.
Special and general relativity are provably abject failures, not because they fail to integrate with QM but because they are at odds with basic cosmological observations. That's about as straightforward as the failure of a theory can get.
Quantum mechanics and its derivatives (QFT, the Standard Model, etc) hardly deserve to be called theories. They're a loose collection of semi-empirical formulas that fail to form any sort of coherent set of ideas, and consistently get their shit wrecked whenever more precise experimental data comes along.
It's true that we don't need a unification of QM and relativity though. What we need is to throw both of these garbage theories in the trash where they belong and start over again from classical mechanics.
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What happens to time at the top of a mountain in a rotating gravitation field over billions of years?
What happens when a person climbs the mountain?
What happens when that person then looks at a clock at sea level?
This is why.
If you understand anything about either of them (you don't) it's clear that the primary tenets of each are at odds with each other
Why exactly is that a problem that requires anthropic correction?
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>THE STANDARD MODEL
>The Standard Model of particle physics is the theory describing three of the four known fundamental forces in the universe and classifying all known elementary particles
>3 of 4
doesn't even describe all of them
useless
Scientists just want to look busy instead of actually figuring out why their current theories are such failures (see dark matter, quantum infinity, black holes, the list goes on)
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>Both theories work to extreme accuracy as far as we know.
>Extreme accuracy
>But not together
Yeah frick off shill, nothing has ever worked and the only proof is math, which could be anything.
None of that pic makes sense
>radiate energy as if it were hot
everything hotter than surroundings radiates, BH are hot because it's compressed. Hawking's radiation is well studied
>gravity as thermodynamics
idk if someone can derive GTR solely from thermodynamics
>lqg
Lqg already has lots of problems to begin with
>causal sets
nothing new, except on a purely theoretical basis, there's nothing preventing you from constructing a reverse set, in many cases elementary particles conserve T symmetry.
>simulation
computer simulations are not convincing if you don't have experimental evidence
>Holography
that comes from Ads/CFT which has nothing to do with LQG, nor the gravity and thermodynamics
>computer simulations are not convincing if you don't have experimental evidence
Pretty sure if you made simulation that builds up every atom from single quarks and electrons it would be enough proof onto itself.
There is more than enough experimental evidence to tell if your simulation is real or not, sadly QM and other larpers are not enough to make such simulation because you need to account for EVERYTHING instead of hiding behind few fancy math functions
If you're experiments = computer simulated results, we can pretty much rule out the possibility of any unknown phenomena that you didn't include in your simulation either due to lack of knowledge of such phenomena or some bias.
If you just simulate something, the reality may not agree depending on how you did it.
Duh which is why observing the simulation on scales and layers at resolutions and granularities matters
>Duh which is why observing the simulation on scales and layers at resolutions and granularities matters
Okay, so you fundamentally do not understand what us scientists are doing here and I doubt you even graduated middle school.
If you created a fitted computer simulation based on experimental data and used that to extrapolate and make predictions that would not be keeping in line with our traditions. TAKE YOUR FRICKING MEDS YOU FRICKING homosexual SCHIZO FRICK!!!!!!!! SHUT THE FRICK UP AROUND PEOPLE LIKE US WHO PAID INTO THIS FRICKING SYSTEM AND SPENT DECADES EARNING OUR DEGREES!!!!!!!!! TAKE YOUR FRICKING COMPUTERS AND PROGRAM AND SHOVE THEM UP YOU MOTHER FRICKING prostitute c**t!!!!!!!
They are unified; it's just the fundamental components of the field that allows the phenomenon of gravity to occur cannot be detected on its micro scale.
Not having this variable possibly through off some other variables because neglecting this as an issue
Yeah black hole could be radiating, but it is also lensing slingshoting light around it
What are Dirac's functions from the early 1930s?
To understand what happens to particles in situations of extreme gravity, basically if photons or barions can transform into gravitons, so you need a theory where these different fields interact.
>why do we need a single consistent theory that describes the world by itself instead of multiple inconsistent theories, that can't even describe the world fully even when put together
maybe because if you need multiple incosistent theories to describe the world, then you don't really understand the world.
Let's get to the bottom of this:
What are the big inconsistencies?
>What are the big inconsistencies?
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>Both theories work to extreme accuracy as far as we know.
Special and general relativity are provably abject failures, not because they fail to integrate with QM but because they are at odds with basic cosmological observations. That's about as straightforward as the failure of a theory can get.
Quantum mechanics and its derivatives (QFT, the Standard Model, etc) hardly deserve to be called theories. They're a loose collection of semi-empirical formulas that fail to form any sort of coherent set of ideas, and consistently get their shit wrecked whenever more precise experimental data comes along.
It's true that we don't need a unification of QM and relativity though. What we need is to throw both of these garbage theories in the trash where they belong and start over again from classical mechanics.
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>Standard Model,
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>Quantum mechanics and its derivatives (QFT, the Standard Model, etc) hardly deserve to be called theories
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why does /misc/ have to false-flag all the time? if your "opponents" are so bad, then there must be many, many examples to show them up without needing to resort to forgeries
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Bro wtf
Nuh uh
What happens to time at the top of a mountain in a rotating gravitation field over billions of years?
What happens when a person climbs the mountain?
What happens when that person then looks at a clock at sea level?
This is why.
Can you post a reality for humans not for ants?
the thing that unifies is them is that they were both bullshit
If you want to make theories about the the Big Bang or black holes in general, you are out of luck without a Theory of Everything.
Reality is too complex for the human mind to ever comprehend. I can prove this with a slide rule and an abacus.