Modern Israelis larp as ancient Israelis to justify their existence.
Thing I have noticed in Levant, most borders drawn are based of ancient civilisations they can trace to. >Lebanon---->Phoenicia >Syria---->Assyria >Iraq---->Mesopotamia >Palestine/Israel----> Ancient Israel or Philistine >Jordan---->?
This. We know from the Cinekoy inscription that the word “Syria” is derived from “Assyria.”
But that only refers to Eastern Syria, or Seleucid Syria, or Persian Syria. Not “Western Syria” which was a Roman created province, now turned into the modern misnomer known as “Syria.”
Syria is based on the general Syriac speaking peoples and the provinces variously known as Syria, Damascus, and Aleppo within a number of Islamic states. Jordan can be seen as a follow over of two things, Arabia Petraea and the larger Hashemite Arabian state that would have existed without the Saudis (debatably).
OK I have zero israeli ancestry so I'm still white by your standards but I don't see how Ashkenazi israelites are nonwhite in any meaningful sense. Unless you want to claim that Hungarians and Finns are also nonwhite.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is this bait?
2 years ago
Anonymous
No you have failed to refute me. I will gladly accept your concession if you have no arguments.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nice job replying to a whole other person kek.
Anyway, ashkenazi are like what 30% of their total population? They're mutts AND they don't adopt a white identity.
Unless you somehow want to make the mental gymnastics to justify black americans also being white, they ain't white.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ashkenazis are still overwhelmingly of European descent. There are plenty of them who are entirely indistinguishable from other Europeans. I don't know what you consider to be "adopting a white identity."
2 years ago
Anonymous
Identifying as white and not going "oy vey gevalt remember the 6 gorillion" every time a "Fellow white people" moment comes up.
Also no, they're like half and half at most, at least from the shit i've seen on Illustrative dna.
So unless quadroons and mulattos are white, israelites aren't either.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only moronic SJW israelites would claim that they somehow aren't white. Acknowledging the Holocaust doesn't make them nonwhite. Southern Europeans don't have entirely pure lineages either but you would regard them as white.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why are you arguing in such bad faith? YOU KNOW that what you're saying isn't right. The entirety of the Zionist movement stands on the principal that the european israelites are all Dreyfus, unable to be accepted into white society even if they attempt to do so. If they were white as you say, then there is no need for them to have a separate state.
Start making some sense or we're just wasting our time here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jews are a distinct ethnic group yes. Bulgarians and Romanians are distinct ethnic groups with their own states too but both are white.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're just circling around a non-sensical argument now.
Come back when you make up your mind on which of these statements is true, either "ashkenazi israelites are white in the same capacity as other europeans, therefore polish israelites or german israelites etc... should have no problem integrating into those societies" or " centuries of israeli inability to integrate into wider european society creates the need for a nation state"
It's either-or, you can't have it both ways.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jews can have a state and assimilate into European countries. The Irish can have Ireland and immigrate to America.
2 years ago
Anonymous
America is not defined as a nation-state, European countries are. Either they are Poles, Germans, Russians... with a different faith or they are a separate people. German protestants don't say German Catholics aren't Germans, the same goes for Catholic and Orthodox/Protestant Hungarians. So there is clearly something that made the European israelites stand out in particular.
Honestly, you keep arguing this moot but it falls apart when faced with the slightest scrutiny.
No amount of whataboutism is going to change that. The israelites are not comparable to the Irish nor the Bulgarians nor the Romanians; they are israelites, they saw as much and they see themselves as much.
An ashkenazi sees himself closer to the Arabian Yemenite and North African Sephradi israelites than to any european.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What do you propose be done with the israelites? Do you want to force them out of Europe into Israel? That would be a rather extreme Zionist stance.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why do you care what I think? I'm an anti-semite I browse this board if you haven't noticed.
Stop moving the goalposts and either just acquiesce to the idea that israelites are and view themselves as different from europeans or we're just beating a dead horse.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Israelis aren't israeli in any way. Hence teh rest of MENA wants nothing to do with them. Israel is an European colony in the middle east.
True israelites are indistinguishable from arabs. There are israelites living in Iran, and they live in peace, why? Because they're indistinguishable from the rest of Iran.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My dude, please step back and think about what you wrote.
The israeli citiziens for the israeli state founded as a homeland for the world's israelites are not... israelites.
Is this REALLY the point you want to argue?
2 years ago
Anonymous
there's like 3 israelites in iran dude, same as the rest of the arab world after 1948
2 years ago
Anonymous
This isn't an anti-Semitic board. Why are you so afraid to admit what you want? Does it involve some edgy things that you would never dare to express even anonymously online?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Black person, have you been of this board? It's /misc/ without flags.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There are anti-Semites on this board but they are not entirely dominant no matter how much you worthless homosexuals try. Nice way to avoid the question at hand: What do you propose to do about this "israeli question" you are concerned with?
2 years ago
Anonymous
What do you want me to say kill them all? Yeah okay, I would not be in any way upset if that happened, probably would celebrate actually.
Anything else you want to ask me on this very anti-semitic board?
2 years ago
Anonymous
How does the mass murder of israeli children benefit you exactly?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I get off on it. What else do you wanna know israelite? (or evangelical, which is somehow worse kek)
2 years ago
Anonymous
OK so you either don't believe in launching a total global Holocaust or you're just some kind of contradictory moron/psycho.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Or maybe i'm fricking with you because it's easy.
You're on a fool's endavour if you're trying to get me to have any shred of sympathy for israelites i'll tell you now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well it's pretty simple: you either think murdering the children of groups you dislike is acceptable or not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only if I get to have it recorded in 4k for me to jerk off to, otherwise it's morally reprehensible.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are refusing to give a serious answer to this question. There are three options here: 1) you are an anti-Semite but don't support the murder of children 2) you are an anti-Semite and support the children or 3) you aren't even an anti-Semite.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'll take 2 for 300$ dollars, Jim.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I do find that hard to believe. While there are definitely people who work themselves into all sorts of depraved beliefs I doubt than even a lowlife loser like you has any sort of genuine belief that the murder of children is a good thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tell that to Israel not to me then. Kek.
2 years ago
Anonymous
God you're moronic. Whatever you people are more deserving of extermination than anyone else.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're the one moralising about child murder while defending Israel and at the slightest hint of someone not immediately conforming to your views you immediately flip the script.
I can just hear the "oy vey" all the way here. Guess the israelite really does cry out as he strikes you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anti-Semitism is the most potent weapon the israelites ever came up with. The imbecility of their enemies will lead them to their ultimate triumph.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pftt yeah sure thing. Did that work when Hadrian and the Germans came too?
2 years ago
Anonymous
being "white" depends on their skin tone at that point, is it pale? if so then yea they are
them being israelites doesn't affect that, they say it themselves
2 years ago
Anonymous
Some Nafris, Asians and Iranians have pale skin, are they also white?
2 years ago
Anonymous
i guess
race is a social construct after all, if you "pass as white" then you can identify as "white" pretty much
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sounds like bullshit to me. So what tamils and melanesians can be black, mountain berbers and indios with epileptic folds can be asian, persians can be mestizo?
jordan is not even supposed to exist they are not even a people they are just arabs like syria iraq and others they exist just because an englishman named Lawrence convinced some stubborn sherif of mecca to revolt against ottomans with his butthole family
You mean Israel?
>jordan
That one's supposed to be there, you must be thinking of Israel
No it's Palestine that should be wiped off the map.
Modern Israelis larp as ancient Israelis to justify their existence.
Thing I have noticed in Levant, most borders drawn are based of ancient civilisations they can trace to.
>Lebanon---->Phoenicia
>Syria---->Assyria
>Iraq---->Mesopotamia
>Palestine/Israel----> Ancient Israel or Philistine
>Jordan---->?
Moab and Ammon.
---->Assyria
Syria has nothing to do with Assyria. Ashur and Nineveh are both in Iraq
This. We know from the Cinekoy inscription that the word “Syria” is derived from “Assyria.”
But that only refers to Eastern Syria, or Seleucid Syria, or Persian Syria. Not “Western Syria” which was a Roman created province, now turned into the modern misnomer known as “Syria.”
Syria is based on the general Syriac speaking peoples and the provinces variously known as Syria, Damascus, and Aleppo within a number of Islamic states. Jordan can be seen as a follow over of two things, Arabia Petraea and the larger Hashemite Arabian state that would have existed without the Saudis (debatably).
>Lebanon---->Phoenicia
Lebanon is the actual name of "Phoenicia" tho.
Why do you want to destroy the only white country in the region and have it conquered by nonwhite invaders?
YWNBW
Everyone on this board is male so it's a pretty safe bet to say that.
That's transphobic bro
YWNBW=You will never be white
OK I have zero israeli ancestry so I'm still white by your standards but I don't see how Ashkenazi israelites are nonwhite in any meaningful sense. Unless you want to claim that Hungarians and Finns are also nonwhite.
Is this bait?
No you have failed to refute me. I will gladly accept your concession if you have no arguments.
Nice job replying to a whole other person kek.
Anyway, ashkenazi are like what 30% of their total population? They're mutts AND they don't adopt a white identity.
Unless you somehow want to make the mental gymnastics to justify black americans also being white, they ain't white.
Ashkenazis are still overwhelmingly of European descent. There are plenty of them who are entirely indistinguishable from other Europeans. I don't know what you consider to be "adopting a white identity."
Identifying as white and not going "oy vey gevalt remember the 6 gorillion" every time a "Fellow white people" moment comes up.
Also no, they're like half and half at most, at least from the shit i've seen on Illustrative dna.
So unless quadroons and mulattos are white, israelites aren't either.
Only moronic SJW israelites would claim that they somehow aren't white. Acknowledging the Holocaust doesn't make them nonwhite. Southern Europeans don't have entirely pure lineages either but you would regard them as white.
Why are you arguing in such bad faith? YOU KNOW that what you're saying isn't right. The entirety of the Zionist movement stands on the principal that the european israelites are all Dreyfus, unable to be accepted into white society even if they attempt to do so. If they were white as you say, then there is no need for them to have a separate state.
Start making some sense or we're just wasting our time here.
Jews are a distinct ethnic group yes. Bulgarians and Romanians are distinct ethnic groups with their own states too but both are white.
You're just circling around a non-sensical argument now.
Come back when you make up your mind on which of these statements is true, either "ashkenazi israelites are white in the same capacity as other europeans, therefore polish israelites or german israelites etc... should have no problem integrating into those societies" or " centuries of israeli inability to integrate into wider european society creates the need for a nation state"
It's either-or, you can't have it both ways.
Jews can have a state and assimilate into European countries. The Irish can have Ireland and immigrate to America.
America is not defined as a nation-state, European countries are. Either they are Poles, Germans, Russians... with a different faith or they are a separate people. German protestants don't say German Catholics aren't Germans, the same goes for Catholic and Orthodox/Protestant Hungarians. So there is clearly something that made the European israelites stand out in particular.
Honestly, you keep arguing this moot but it falls apart when faced with the slightest scrutiny.
No amount of whataboutism is going to change that. The israelites are not comparable to the Irish nor the Bulgarians nor the Romanians; they are israelites, they saw as much and they see themselves as much.
An ashkenazi sees himself closer to the Arabian Yemenite and North African Sephradi israelites than to any european.
What do you propose be done with the israelites? Do you want to force them out of Europe into Israel? That would be a rather extreme Zionist stance.
Why do you care what I think? I'm an anti-semite I browse this board if you haven't noticed.
Stop moving the goalposts and either just acquiesce to the idea that israelites are and view themselves as different from europeans or we're just beating a dead horse.
Israelis aren't israeli in any way. Hence teh rest of MENA wants nothing to do with them. Israel is an European colony in the middle east.
True israelites are indistinguishable from arabs. There are israelites living in Iran, and they live in peace, why? Because they're indistinguishable from the rest of Iran.
My dude, please step back and think about what you wrote.
The israeli citiziens for the israeli state founded as a homeland for the world's israelites are not... israelites.
Is this REALLY the point you want to argue?
there's like 3 israelites in iran dude, same as the rest of the arab world after 1948
This isn't an anti-Semitic board. Why are you so afraid to admit what you want? Does it involve some edgy things that you would never dare to express even anonymously online?
Black person, have you been of this board? It's /misc/ without flags.
There are anti-Semites on this board but they are not entirely dominant no matter how much you worthless homosexuals try. Nice way to avoid the question at hand: What do you propose to do about this "israeli question" you are concerned with?
What do you want me to say kill them all? Yeah okay, I would not be in any way upset if that happened, probably would celebrate actually.
Anything else you want to ask me on this very anti-semitic board?
How does the mass murder of israeli children benefit you exactly?
I get off on it. What else do you wanna know israelite? (or evangelical, which is somehow worse kek)
OK so you either don't believe in launching a total global Holocaust or you're just some kind of contradictory moron/psycho.
Or maybe i'm fricking with you because it's easy.
You're on a fool's endavour if you're trying to get me to have any shred of sympathy for israelites i'll tell you now.
Well it's pretty simple: you either think murdering the children of groups you dislike is acceptable or not.
Only if I get to have it recorded in 4k for me to jerk off to, otherwise it's morally reprehensible.
You are refusing to give a serious answer to this question. There are three options here: 1) you are an anti-Semite but don't support the murder of children 2) you are an anti-Semite and support the children or 3) you aren't even an anti-Semite.
I'll take 2 for 300$ dollars, Jim.
I do find that hard to believe. While there are definitely people who work themselves into all sorts of depraved beliefs I doubt than even a lowlife loser like you has any sort of genuine belief that the murder of children is a good thing.
Tell that to Israel not to me then. Kek.
God you're moronic. Whatever you people are more deserving of extermination than anyone else.
You're the one moralising about child murder while defending Israel and at the slightest hint of someone not immediately conforming to your views you immediately flip the script.
I can just hear the "oy vey" all the way here. Guess the israelite really does cry out as he strikes you.
Anti-Semitism is the most potent weapon the israelites ever came up with. The imbecility of their enemies will lead them to their ultimate triumph.
Pftt yeah sure thing. Did that work when Hadrian and the Germans came too?
being "white" depends on their skin tone at that point, is it pale? if so then yea they are
them being israelites doesn't affect that, they say it themselves
Some Nafris, Asians and Iranians have pale skin, are they also white?
i guess
race is a social construct after all, if you "pass as white" then you can identify as "white" pretty much
Sounds like bullshit to me. So what tamils and melanesians can be black, mountain berbers and indios with epileptic folds can be asian, persians can be mestizo?
>Jews
>white
Yeah they look white to me.
OK
Whites are Japhethites.
>Using israeli scriptures to promote anti-Semitism
That's Christian scripture, Anon.
Nope. You worship a israelite and hate the israelites for killing your israelite. That doesn't make much sense.
Wrong again, I worship God.
Do you not believe in the divinity of Christ?
Yes.
then you obviously worship a israelite...
As a consolation prize to the Hashemites. Iraq was meant to be too but they fricked that one up.
Idk France or Britian probably
Because the brits didn't wanted to Saudi Arabia to be bigger than it is.
Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Israel, Kuwait, UAE, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain are all fake non countries that shoudl be righfully incorporated into Saudi Arabia.
you can blame wypepo for it
as always
jordan is not even supposed to exist they are not even a people they are just arabs like syria iraq and others they exist just because an englishman named Lawrence convinced some stubborn sherif of mecca to revolt against ottomans with his butthole family
Its a fake country made by UK.
So is Syria and Palestine apparently.
Jordan is a troony
Cisjordan however, now that's a pretty cool guy
>turn Jordan thread into Israel thread into israelite thread
frick off