Why doesn't anybody write their own operating systems anymore?

Why doesn't anybody write their own operating systems anymore?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you want the real answer it's that making your own (general desktop) OS from scratch in anno domini 2024 is a monumental task that, after completion, would immediately lead you to having 0% market share
    put simply, it ain't profitable or worth the effort

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      market share wouldn't matter if you and you alone used it
      but it is a hugely complex task, only set aside for the blessed (Terrence A. Davis).

      This is now an Andreas Kling thread

      not completely his own, he has many people helping him. still impressive nonetheless.

      i'm going to give you a really long answer to this, which may or may not blow your mind. here goes:

      reality is self similar across scale, its called the law of correspondence (a hermetic principle). at the very "base" level of reality, we have atoms, which consist of a proton, a neutron and a electron. so a positive, a negative and a neutral. this pattern of positive, negative and neutral plays itself out across all scales of the universe

      some examples of this pattern might be, your mum, your dad, and then you (the child). you could consider your mum positive since shes sweetness and light, your dad negative because he dishes out the disciplinary action, and the child neutral, as they're still in a state of "becoming". whats labelled positive/negative/neutral doesn't matter, only the concept

      so up from that family unit is nation/country, which the family is a microcosm of (a smaller scale)...you have leftists/democrats (positive), then you have right wing conservatives (negative) and then all the varieties in-between

      then we move up from nation/country and look at our world as a whole, and its organized into eastern and western hemispheres. eastern thought being "negative" or 0, western being "positive" or 1

      then up from that, the structure of our galaxy and solar system almost looks like various cells at the molecular level, having a positive, a negative and a neutral

      when we start to look at technology we see the same pattern. intel might be the positive, amd might be negative, and then you have all the other random unknown companies

      look at operating systems...you have completely locked down apple, something somewhere in the middle (windows) and then linux which is completely open source

      this pattern is why things are the way they are. reality is playing out a narrative at the macro level...like the sun going down and there being night, and it rising again. thats why nobody is making new operating systems or doing X thing

      kus, wasted numbers

      making a fully working OS that runs on hardware is a draconian task, since you don't gradually expand anymore, but have to support a lot of shit at once.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You still can do and people still do. It's just you can't do on the competitive level , nor is required from the user to write corresponding operating system and drivers to the hardware they have bought.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    graphical applications, they're too insanely complex to make writing your own kernel worth it
    if you just use an existing kernel but write your own userland then thats just a distro, there are tons of those

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is now an Andreas Kling thread

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nobody cares about your morrowind character

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is ToaruOS, though it seems to have been archived with no explanations.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm going to give you a really long answer to this, which may or may not blow your mind. here goes:

    reality is self similar across scale, its called the law of correspondence (a hermetic principle). at the very "base" level of reality, we have atoms, which consist of a proton, a neutron and a electron. so a positive, a negative and a neutral. this pattern of positive, negative and neutral plays itself out across all scales of the universe

    some examples of this pattern might be, your mum, your dad, and then you (the child). you could consider your mum positive since shes sweetness and light, your dad negative because he dishes out the disciplinary action, and the child neutral, as they're still in a state of "becoming". whats labelled positive/negative/neutral doesn't matter, only the concept

    so up from that family unit is nation/country, which the family is a microcosm of (a smaller scale)...you have leftists/democrats (positive), then you have right wing conservatives (negative) and then all the varieties in-between

    then we move up from nation/country and look at our world as a whole, and its organized into eastern and western hemispheres. eastern thought being "negative" or 0, western being "positive" or 1

    then up from that, the structure of our galaxy and solar system almost looks like various cells at the molecular level, having a positive, a negative and a neutral

    when we start to look at technology we see the same pattern. intel might be the positive, amd might be negative, and then you have all the other random unknown companies

    look at operating systems...you have completely locked down apple, something somewhere in the middle (windows) and then linux which is completely open source

    this pattern is why things are the way they are. reality is playing out a narrative at the macro level...like the sun going down and there being night, and it rising again. thats why nobody is making new operating systems or doing X thing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I look at this wall of text and think, should I tell the anon to kill himself, without reading the content of the post, or should I read everything, find the definition of every word I don’t know and most likely reach Nirvana

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hermetic principle
      you're not finding the philosophers stone little bro
      >you could consider your mum positive since shes sweetness and light, your dad negative because he dishes out the disciplinary action
      that's not representative of any family i have ever seen lmao. touch grass.
      >eastern thought being "negative" or 0, western being "positive" or 1
      please don't jerk off in the technology forum westoid julius caesar won't frick you. the world is bigger than that medieval ass dichotomy. the middle east and far east are too different from each other to be considered the same cluster
      >something somewhere in the middle (windows)
      what are you talking about

      all whole bunch of bullshit to say "there must be a trinity" of operating systems as if tech trinities and fashions haven't changed time and time again. those drugs are melting your brain kid

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        your brain is structured at an individual level to create trinities of structure...why wouldn't humans on a mass scale not be the same?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i don't fully disagree with that specially in the context of dialectics, but complexity comes from theses and antitheses existing in multiple axes. a structure may be positive in an axis and negative or neutral in another one
          also, no, reality doesn't have to conform to the way human brains have adapted to understand it. it's the other way around.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the operating system part is easy. its writing drivers for the absolute fricking shitfest of a proprietary obsolete bug-ridden undocumented-errata-clogged indian untreated sewage dump of a cyber-ecological catastrophe of the modern PC that turns most people off.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >make your idea for an OS real with a virtualbox-only OS
      >no need for drivers
      >if somehow it gains traction there will always be time to write drivers later

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't everything pretty standardized and well documented at this point? I mean there's only 2 cpu and chipset manufacturers and 3 gpu manufacturers left.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        2^3 to the power of however many the frick products they both released. That is still a shitton. You'd still have to understand and be able to implement the specs too.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are more OSes being written today than ever before.
    >but how come I don't know them
    I have a simple explanation: you're not well informed
    If it were 1995, you wouldn't know about Linux either.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There are more OSes being written today than ever before.
      >all linux

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >all linux
        That's wrong.
        Every single memelang has an OS being written in it.
        There are bucket loads of OSes for embedded systems.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Writing an OS is not very hard, hard is to provide drivers/APIs/programs required by your OS users. No one will use it until you somehow achieve level of infrastructure other OSes was stockpiling for decades.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you mean writing a kernel isn't very hard but writing an OS is

      Isn't everything pretty standardized and well documented at this point? I mean there's only 2 cpu and chipset manufacturers and 3 gpu manufacturers left.

      oh, sweet summer child. printers.

      honestly i would love to see an easier standardized way to create hardware and make drivers across systems, though that would probably lead to even more ewaste. idk. the situation is frustrating

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you mean writing a kernel isn't very hard but writing an OS is
        Define "OS". For me, everything executing outside of kernel mode isn't a part of OS. Drivers aren't too.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then you're moronic. OS and Kernel aren't synonymous

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