>we
you haven't done so because you don't know how, they might know how to, but you aren't one of them, so you have no idea what their capabilities are. >why haven't we lost 500 IQ points by consuming and willfully believing popsci bullshit media
you have, they haven't
Let's a have reasonable discussion. The embargo is there for good reason. We aren't sure how good the technology is or what effects it will have. It could be that if we start creating genetic super babies and half the population want it that those babies turn out to be infertile or have an average lifespan of 40. We need to have a better understanding of analogue entropy decay of cell nuclei at minimum. If you just start splicing genes and lengthening the chromosome you might inactivate other important genes for example. Hence the extensive testing on other organisms.
We have a history of rushing seemingly good technology and then ending up losing 6 IQ points due to lead in our environment etc. There is no reason to not be more patient.
Officially there have been no works done on the matter but I'm feeling pretty confident that some crazy frickers will absolutely BTFO the ethic-gays with a tour de force on cloning
I just can’t wait til China figures out genetic engineering and BTFO’s the israeli world order. Ask any israelite their opinions on genetic engineering, they will probably freak out
Be a tech Billionaire.
Set up home in space... NO laws govern you!
Body starts aging, clone yourself, harvest body parts from the clone, become nearly immortal.
Didn’t some Chinese scientist edit an embryo to make them resistant to HIV an cause them to have higher IQs why wouldn’t they be doing 1000s more experiments 1000x more secret? China has cloned or attempted multiple times.
Wrong. In fact in vitro fertilisation just needs a second egg to create clones. The protocol itself is pretty much perfect, with a large chance of twins.
The liver can regrow itself, even when transplanted. Idem for bone.
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Anonymous
Yes, it can, but how does it make the fact that you can only clone the whole organism wrong?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not what was stated.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What was stated? >>The only way to clone a human organ is to clone a human and cut the organ out. >Wrong
Show me how it is wrong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
To clone a human organ one can take out a piece of someone’s liver put it into a host or in vitro equivalent and that piece will regrow on its own. In both the host and donor.
No cloning of a human is needed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It is not cloning, not according to these definitions: > Cloning is the process of producing individual organisms with identical or virtually identical DNA, either by natural or artificial means. In nature, some organisms produce clones through asexual reproduction. In the field of biotechnology, cloning is the process of creating cloned organisms (copies) of cells and of DNA fragments (molecular cloning).
Because there is no monetary motivation to do so - no millionaire want to clone him/her self because it would decrease reputation. And even for the most authorative regime, you will not spend billions for what you can get +- similar for free
The technology is definitely there. Somatic cell nuclear transfer has been used on a variety of animals to some success, including mammals. Its a chilling thought, but by using a culture of living somatic cells from a dead human, you could "reincarnate" them by injecting one of their nuclei into an enucleated egg cell, implanting the egg into a woman, and allowing it to develop to term.
According to the Aliens subreddit the AYYYY LMFAOOOOOsss are already cloning humans for meat and puppetry. They are known as "archons" who rule the earth. For more detailed explanation:
>>>/x/
imagine thinking that governments that do pic related wouldn't do the most nightmarish things imaginable. this relates to the science as an institution, because it is largely taxpayer funded, whether directly or indirectly.
because the ethical considerations in regards to the current level of the technology as applied to sapient animals and societal impact are pretty grim
>Hey man can we just genetically engineer humans to being healthy and smarter
>MUH ETHICSSSS!!!!!
Good luck telling that to any religious right-winger that believes a clump of cells is a rational human being capable of self-awareness.
>Let me talk about MY POLITICS
Low IQ Americans are the worst scum on the planet.
also this, makes religi-gays seethe globally end would quickly end up shattering most of their dogma around life in general
>Rightwingers
You are right. It is any religious nut
>if you're not rational or self-aware then you're not really human and it's okay to murder you
why are leftists always like this?
Same could be applied to meat eaters or everyone who swats a big
>can we just genetically engineer humans to being healthy and smarter
not yet
>>Hey man can we just genetically engineer humans to be better corporate drones
>>MUH ETHICSSSS!!!!!
do not reply to soijak spammers
do not bump soijak spammers
>people opposing cloning are the soys
>not the redditors who preach about it and say only religious right wing morons oppose it
>we
you haven't done so because you don't know how, they might know how to, but you aren't one of them, so you have no idea what their capabilities are.
>why haven't we lost 500 IQ points by consuming and willfully believing popsci bullshit media
you have, they haven't
>Why haven't we cloned humans yet?
They have and continue to do so. It would be moronic to think otherwise.
This. The world wouldn't allow such activities to continue if they knew about it so it is done in secret.
Wasn't there a chink scientist who cloned a child and got arrested?
No he used Crispr tech on a pair of prenatal twin girls attempting to boost their resistance to HIV.
It's possible that has been tried somewhere. But too controversial to go mainstream.
oh yeah china did that years afl
I'm excited for the advent of Global Tepiding.
Let's a have reasonable discussion. The embargo is there for good reason. We aren't sure how good the technology is or what effects it will have. It could be that if we start creating genetic super babies and half the population want it that those babies turn out to be infertile or have an average lifespan of 40. We need to have a better understanding of analogue entropy decay of cell nuclei at minimum. If you just start splicing genes and lengthening the chromosome you might inactivate other important genes for example. Hence the extensive testing on other organisms.
We have a history of rushing seemingly good technology and then ending up losing 6 IQ points due to lead in our environment etc. There is no reason to not be more patient.
Officially there have been no works done on the matter but I'm feeling pretty confident that some crazy frickers will absolutely BTFO the ethic-gays with a tour de force on cloning
I just can’t wait til China figures out genetic engineering and BTFO’s the israeli world order. Ask any israelite their opinions on genetic engineering, they will probably freak out
>Why haven't we cloned humans yet?
Be a tech Billionaire.
Set up home in space... NO laws govern you!
Body starts aging, clone yourself, harvest body parts from the clone, become nearly immortal.
Go find the film "boys from brasil" and watch that
Didn’t some Chinese scientist edit an embryo to make them resistant to HIV an cause them to have higher IQs why wouldn’t they be doing 1000s more experiments 1000x more secret? China has cloned or attempted multiple times.
they're cheaper to make the regular way
Because the technology is not well-established. So unless you are ready to slaughter 200 flawed fetuses, there's nothing stopping you.
Wrong. In fact in vitro fertilisation just needs a second egg to create clones. The protocol itself is pretty much perfect, with a large chance of twins.
We have though...?
We've cloned human organs.
The only way to clone a human organ is to clone a human and cut the organ out.
Wrong
What's wrong about it? Show me some data.
The liver can regrow itself, even when transplanted. Idem for bone.
Yes, it can, but how does it make the fact that you can only clone the whole organism wrong?
Not what was stated.
What was stated?
>>The only way to clone a human organ is to clone a human and cut the organ out.
>Wrong
Show me how it is wrong.
To clone a human organ one can take out a piece of someone’s liver put it into a host or in vitro equivalent and that piece will regrow on its own. In both the host and donor.
No cloning of a human is needed.
It is not cloning, not according to these definitions:
> Cloning is the process of producing individual organisms with identical or virtually identical DNA, either by natural or artificial means. In nature, some organisms produce clones through asexual reproduction. In the field of biotechnology, cloning is the process of creating cloned organisms (copies) of cells and of DNA fragments (molecular cloning).
>he doesnt know
basedence magazine is just another gay israeli propaganda outlet, nothing it publishes is true.
>comparing sensationalist headlines from an age when global warming wasn't sensational news to an age when it was
be less gay
Because there is no monetary motivation to do so - no millionaire want to clone him/her self because it would decrease reputation. And even for the most authorative regime, you will not spend billions for what you can get +- similar for free
The technology is definitely there. Somatic cell nuclear transfer has been used on a variety of animals to some success, including mammals. Its a chilling thought, but by using a culture of living somatic cells from a dead human, you could "reincarnate" them by injecting one of their nuclei into an enucleated egg cell, implanting the egg into a woman, and allowing it to develop to term.
According to the Aliens subreddit the AYYYY LMFAOOOOOsss are already cloning humans for meat and puppetry. They are known as "archons" who rule the earth. For more detailed explanation:
>>>/x/
imagine thinking that governments that do pic related wouldn't do the most nightmarish things imaginable. this relates to the science as an institution, because it is largely taxpayer funded, whether directly or indirectly.