why haven't you written your novel yet? just make something up. it's that easy.
I hope you aren't one of those pedantic fricks who doesn't even write because "art"
why haven't you written your novel yet? just make something up. it's that easy.
why haven't you written your novel yet? just make something up. it's that easy.
I hope you aren't one of those pedantic fricks who doesn't even write because "art"
am too busy with music stuff to actually, really try it. i get the the urge every now and then though, occasionally typing out a page or two and scribbling out something on a notepad. Daydreaming about plots and structures occasionally. Someday when I'm too lazy to have band practices and play shows, maybe then.
Same here but I write non fiction mostly
Music is great as well friend, very worthwhile pursuit.
Congrats on getting it done anon. No shame in editing it for that long, all the greats spend a lot of time re-writing. What’s it about?
Dang, three is impressive. I’ve only managed to submit two short stories, both rejected so far.
Kek, three more than have read my novel.
Good luck friend!
I’m too much of a perfectionist that I rewrite and rewrite. Also I self-sabotage any chance of success for myself.
I'm a depressed loser who barely has the motivation to get out of bed
I did write three so far. They will remain unpublished until they are found after I'm dead.
I wrote a novel. I've spent about 3 years editing it because I'm afraid of putting myself out there and sharing my work with others. I'm extremely insecure and scared of putting myself out there as it is. I've shared it with my grandmother and my therapist.
You're braver than I am. I started writing 3 years ago and no one else has seen it yet.
I've written three and they've all been rejected. Had some luck with short stories.
How does it work? Did you send them an expose or what did you do?
you print copies of your book out at home and leave them at the bookstore, they deposit the money in your account
i just deposited something in your mum 😉
I've received your pussy joice thank you
wieneramamie characters
Patchy plots
Musty metaphors
Fubar foundation
Tattered theme
...
I'd love to read all of of your works
Unless I spend the rest of my years mastering technique it will inevitably be shit, and I don't want to be one to pollute the market with shit
Feels good having altruistic approach to everything
currently writing frick you 🙂
There's no audience for what I want to write. The moronic have inherited the earth.
I do not like writing and I have nothing to write about.
I did. Also published it. Only 3 people have read it though, one of those being my mom.
What am I supposed to write? Fantasy and sci-fi is dogshit tier, romance and crime is airport tier, and everything else is unpopular tier. It’s impossible to make a living as a writer and still retain your self-respect.
Why are you even thinking in genres like that? can't you just write something without trying to put it into a box
1. Publishers require you to have a set genre in mind so they can market it.
2. Your book will not be commercially successful unless it is in a set genre. People who buy books nowadays do it to satisfy a niche. Whether it be middle-class white guys for fantasy or sexually frustrated wine mums for romance.
Dude, what do you need a publisher for these days?
the publishers think this way because that's how discoverability and consumers work. these systems are not just arbitrary bureaucracy you niave homosexual
sounds like horseshit. you haven't even written anything yet and you're already going like I must not write this or that something something commercial success. just write and see how it turns out and then hone whatever it's going to be. treating writing like you're molding dildos seems dumb
>"sounds like horseshit"
>dismissing how things literally work
>definitely not a naive homosexual
i'm not that other anon, i was just pooping on you
I'm perfectly aware it might work like that with traditional publishing but lol why do you want to mess around with those guys. either way your chances are ass and you might as well could self-publish using amazon or whatever and market yourself via social media. I don't get what advantage a publisher would give you besides entering some stupid contract they might even prevent you from working on other stuff.
>I don't get what advantage a publisher would give you besides entering some stupid contract they might even prevent you from working on other stuff.
You have to be very marketable for a publisher to contract you, majority of the time they just purchase publishing rights for a certain number of years.
even further. afaik many publishers won't care anymore anyhow if you don't have some kind of internet buzz going on. straight into the bin.
>you haven't even written anything yet
Dozens of years ago a man decided to hone his mastery of the English language through internet shitposting. He was mocked by all, spat upon in the streets and attractive women would point and laugh at his puny schizoposts. That man's name was.. Albert Einstein.
I’m the original anon. I will not invest my time writing something unless I can derive some commercial success from it. I could very easily write a relatively inoffensive Dickenseque tale but nobody will buy it and no publisher will take it on because the appetites of readers have changed. I would rather not become a writer at all then lower myself to writing Sanderson-tier slop that will be permanently associated with my name for eternity. Even relatively respected slop writers like Steven King could not come about today because most people don’t read anymore. Without the tv show, GRRM would be another one of these irrelevant fantasy authors who are abundant today.
And no, self-publishing is not a viable alternative. To be brutally honest it is a coping mechanism for people who didn’t make it.
listen, I don't know much about writing but I would guess that having expectations like that while writing your first doesn't do you any good. I might be wrong but I suppose you have to do it to get better at it. learning by doing. this kind of talk just seems like asking for writer's block, but again I dunno
What would you do if you had enough money already?
I wouldn’t write at all. I do not have the credentials or life experience to write a highbrow literary novel so I wouldn’t invest my time in that. My main attraction to writing is, frankly, money. Like pretty much all novelists of the 19th and 20th century (no matter how much we try to embellish their careers after the fact). The novelists of yesteryear are now screenwriters—Dickens and Dumas would be Netflix writers or something.
Then do something with higher returns. Learn to code gay.
Being a renowned writer builds a better legacy. Plus, with each passing year coding because less and less accessible to break into. Not only is it a completely globalised profession, but with AI companies will now be looking at the crème de la crème of talent from top colleges. It will become sort of like law in which there is a clear caste system in the profession.
You're making up elaborate excuses, humans love doing that. You could make money coding something tomorrow and all the weird shit like AI just opens more doors.
>builds a better legacy
So it's not about money, it's about ego and social status. A good start if you want people to look up to you is being at least a slightly competent person.
>You're making up elaborate excuses
No, my reasoning is pretty airtight.
>So it's not about money, it's about ego and social status.
Ego and social status is important. I would rather my money be generated from a lucrative writing career then being some code monkey lackey for a company. That’s not unreasonable or incredulous to say. Though, as I said, I am not pursuing a writing career because it is not lucrative.
>No, my reasoning is pretty airtight.
It's a story you made up based on internet memes and no experience doing any of this. Someone with experience is attempting to correct you.
>code monkey
No imagination so there will never be any code or interesting stories produced. The only reason a company would pay you money is because you can make them even more money. With software there's not really any infrastructure large companies offer you that you don't have access to at home.
My debut novel is a long form intelligence report on the highway systems of Argentina and 2015 general election, written in four languages with long meandering asides on Gauchos, Domingo Faustino Sarmiento, Juan Manuel de Rosas, José Gaspar Rodríguez de Francia, Chess, Georges-Eugène Haussmann, Juan Perón, Charly García, and Propaganda Due. Several chapters are cocaine/malaria fueled fever dreams, others are erotic slapstick describing a pair of petty thugs fricking and scheming their way through the Pampas. Everybody ends up fat and married in the final chapter.
Stick that in your box nerd.
I don't want to write at all. I'm a 100% consoooomer
I just started it yesterday. I know that sounds dumb but I think I’m finally ready.
to write well you need to dedicate yourself to the art. i ain't about that life
there is little value in simply producing 1 of the million books written each year otherwise
Because I am in the process of writing it.
>just make something up. it's that easy.
Just about the same as not even trying.
>not even trying
unironically this is the correct way to write
come to /wg/ and write, what do you have to lose?
What would you possibly even write? Whatever could be said has been said
I wrote 4 stage plays
One of them was pretty good
I should burn the other three
I have terrible prose and writing skills
I have written several. It's a worthless exercise. Nobody will read it. Even if they do, so what? You won't make any money. Even if you do, so what?
>Even if you do, so what?
then I could stop doing this job I hate and spend more time writing, which is generally fun.
because i’m not a larper who pretends they have anything interesting to say. reading books is enough for me, i have no reason to write one
once i get an gf i'll for sure get around to writing my novel haha
ive never wanted to write a novel even once
Every time I start, I fall off because I don't like it. I want to tell my life story, but this shit sucks and the sadness keeps distracting me. It's coming out like Child Called It. So what's the point in laying myself out like that, just to show people trauma porn?
it's a webcomic, not a novel. the cope excuse is that i can't draw, the reality is that i draw better than i write - both in terms of quality of writing, and in terms of quantity. once imageboard arguments are removed, i must write less than a thousand words a year - and those are just vague ideas stuck down in some godforsaken text-file never to be seen again.
candidly: i'm not a creator, i'm a daydreamer. it's just necessary for me to keep up the pretense that my daydreaming is the start of useful work, otherwise i'd have to face the fact that i've managed to lose more than a decade of my life to mere daydreaming.
I’m actually writing a story myself. But my problem is that my ideas keep snowballing and leaving me with writer’s block.
For example: story takes place in a desert. Have to come up with a name for the desert. Have to describe the details of what it looks like. What kind of flora and fauna it has. Have to write the desert’s history. Who lives in the desert? What kind of animals are in the desert. Blah, blah, blah…
What do I do about this?
I've been writing a lot recently and really is a process of discovery in the literal sense, like I'm getting to know someone. that said, I've been summarizing certain parts over and over again until it becomes effortless to talk about it. hard to describe. meanwhile with each summarization something new stacks up. paradigm shifts, new layers, the bridging of aspects that didn't seem conntected at all prior to that, etc.
tldr. why fight it? just trust the process and don't overthink it. you can always just edit things out later. at least you got something to work with.
I have written three books and one short story in an enormous work that I hope will, upon commpletion, be my masterpiece. It's a work of science fiction, told partly in prose and partly in various manners of poetic verse. For inspiration it draws heavily from Neon Genesis Evangelion, The Lord Of The Rings, The Book of the New Sun, the Divine Comedy, and Plato's Republic.
I just need to find a way to get people to read it. I have a buddy who's been reading it from the time I started it back in 2020, and he's convinced I'm a genius. But I can't get any literary agent or small press to touch the first book, perhaps owing to its length (it's a hair under 140,000 words). I have considered trying to self-publish it serially and use my social media to promote the chapters/sections as I put them out.
I deeply enjoy writing it and consider it the story I was born to tell.
Post excerpts
is it better to write something bad or write nothing at all?
It is almost always bad, that what revision, rewriting and editing are for.
Posted in one of these threads a couple months ago. I had just completed my first draft at the time. I'm still editing right now but it's going slower than I would like because of work. Quality over quantity though. I've been at it for over 3 years, writing whenever I get the chance. I've come too far to give up. I'll more than likely end up self-publishing because absolutely no current year publisher will give it a chance I'm sure. Anyway, when that day comes I'll be here to shill it. I genuinely think there might be an anon or two here who might enjoy reading it as much as I have enjoyed writing it.
>checked
"There are no great novelists under 40." - some Mississippi girl