>precipitous decline in the education of the humanities >publishing and criticism are extremely contraselective and nepotistic fields >the rise of electronic entertainment >we have been living in a generalized cultural decline for centuries now
Current crop of young people are double-digit IQ hyper-conformists; old (but fun) fricks like McCarthy, Houellebecq, and Pynchon are either dead or decrepit.
Because you don't read
you have to explore to find good shit
When it comes to classics, they all have been hand picked by the community and spoonfed to you
Kinda this, you have to look through something like 20 books to find a single one that is worth anything. Annoying as hell and made me turn back to classics.
>Murnane >Cartarescu >Krasznahorkai >Cusk >Houellebecq
Here's five names of living writers that get mentioned here and are worth reading. Contemporary literature is alive and well, contemporary readership is kind of stuck out of social media and uses the internet very little, plus reading takes a lot of time, which is why it can take 10/15 years for a good book to reach you instead of the 0.1 seconds of the new avatar trailer.
If you check out websites and social media profile of publishing houses, befriend translators on fb, follow some literary critics in your home language, you'll find plenty of gems. You just need to actually put in the work - and also maybe read a book every once in a while.
The Plains is most recommended because it is somewhat Borgesian. But true Murnane begins with his short story collection, Landscape with Landscape (1985).
So either The Plains or his short story collection (his post-1985 short fiction is all collected in one volume).
succinct and perhaps more accurate than any of the political screeching here. That's all secondary to the economic materialism and consumer demand which floods the market in a feedback loop with the bolotics and diminishes the geniuses of any age to an imperceptibly small needle in a shit stack but that's nothing new, all things considered those guys have better alternatives at their disposal than ever.
A feedback loop of the masses' brains being turned into mush by constant internet access through smartphones and authors writing to their expected audience's level.
because most of the books are slop catered to women's weird fantasies which are written by women. women read more and endorse shitty books which get featured even more. it's hard to find good books written recently.
post-modernity has killed the sense of seriousness and grandiosity that constitute the core of so many modern classics. in the post-modern era everything turn into a matter of meta-narrative our a soulless irony
publishers now are cowards. They refuse to print anything if the author joked about trannies or said Black person twenty years ago. God forbid their actual manuscript is mildly controversial. The end result is modern publishing is just one big echo chamber of bullshit.
>Why is contemporary literature so dull?
Because it is not about my cherished political beliefs, rather their beliefs. Simple as. I don't care for art. I care how it transmits messages such as anti-racism or racism, fellating Christianity or reeing about it etc. Now you get it?
It is just people being moronic and having unrealistic expectations out of regular stuff.
Kinda this, you have to look through something like 20 books to find a single one that is worth anything. Annoying as hell and made me turn back to classics.
It is basically this, I bet that would also be the case in the past. Most books aren't that great or suck, that is why they didn't turned into classics. Same goes for contemporary stuff.
>It is basically this, I bet that would also be the case in the past.
The past had fewer people and there were more significant barriers to entry for publishing.
succinct and perhaps more accurate than any of the political screeching here. That's all secondary to the economic materialism and consumer demand which floods the market in a feedback loop with the bolotics and diminishes the geniuses of any age to an imperceptibly small needle in a shit stack but that's nothing new, all things considered those guys have better alternatives at their disposal than ever.
>political screeching
why do homosexuals like you get so upset when people make social and political observations?
Still, plenty of shit books, most of them didn't end up making. Consider math, there are still basic math books being printed, despite the old ones having the same shit the new ones have.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The scale is off by at least an order of magnitude. >in the past
100 trash books produced, 50 of them show up in your local bookstore/library, 5 are highly acclaimed and most likely good, you filter the rest down to 10-15 based on blurbs/title/1st chapter etc.
OR
Stories were published as serials in periodicals, where you had a small handful of options every month. >now
10,000 trash books produced, you navigate SEO'd web storefronts, AI shillbots and other marketing spam, mainstream critics are not trustworthy, in the hopes of somehow narrowing to a reasonable number. There are 6,000+ books listed on Royal Road's "Popular this Week" search alone.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>filter by subject >skim said books
If you can't tell that a book doesn't suit your needs by reading less than 10 pages. It is a you problem.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>bro just read 10 pages of 10,000 books
You aren't getting the point.
I suppose if one were to read as carelessly as you, 10 pages goes by in about 2 minutes
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it is impossible
Maybe for you. I used to do that and it is quite doable, you can find a lot of good stuff. The only problem is that you have to look for it.
You are fricking nuts, even the "good ones" haven't written only good books. This is like asking, would you rather have the best minds of their time at their best, or just something that is ok and fresh?
School sucks, most authors lived a coddled, privileged life with absolutely zero interesting experiences, and an industry which selects stories that push the narrative
Because it is literally me.
>precipitous decline in the education of the humanities
>publishing and criticism are extremely contraselective and nepotistic fields
>the rise of electronic entertainment
>we have been living in a generalized cultural decline for centuries now
That's about it.
Current crop of young people are double-digit IQ hyper-conformists; old (but fun) fricks like McCarthy, Houellebecq, and Pynchon are either dead or decrepit.
Because you don't read
you have to explore to find good shit
When it comes to classics, they all have been hand picked by the community and spoonfed to you
Kinda this, you have to look through something like 20 books to find a single one that is worth anything. Annoying as hell and made me turn back to classics.
women
Lol dis duck funny
It's a really neat little trick. With the right color scheme it seems like the duck is part of the thread itself.
>Murnane
>Cartarescu
>Krasznahorkai
>Cusk
>Houellebecq
Here's five names of living writers that get mentioned here and are worth reading. Contemporary literature is alive and well, contemporary readership is kind of stuck out of social media and uses the internet very little, plus reading takes a lot of time, which is why it can take 10/15 years for a good book to reach you instead of the 0.1 seconds of the new avatar trailer.
If you check out websites and social media profile of publishing houses, befriend translators on fb, follow some literary critics in your home language, you'll find plenty of gems. You just need to actually put in the work - and also maybe read a book every once in a while.
I read one Houellebecq novel and all I got was a guy paying women to lick his butthole
Yeah I don’t know why IQfy dickrides him he’s dull and obvious and basically sucks israeli wiener.
Maybe it's because he's about as edgy as a 14-year-old boy who spends time on IQfy?
>Cusk
Any books you'd like to recommend?
Only Murnane is Great. Rest stink!
Where does one start with this Murnane fellow?
The Plains is most recommended because it is somewhat Borgesian. But true Murnane begins with his short story collection, Landscape with Landscape (1985).
So either The Plains or his short story collection (his post-1985 short fiction is all collected in one volume).
Landscape with Landscape then
hehe cute duck
everyone's just trying to make money from easily digestible content
succinct and perhaps more accurate than any of the political screeching here. That's all secondary to the economic materialism and consumer demand which floods the market in a feedback loop with the bolotics and diminishes the geniuses of any age to an imperceptibly small needle in a shit stack but that's nothing new, all things considered those guys have better alternatives at their disposal than ever.
A feedback loop of the masses' brains being turned into mush by constant internet access through smartphones and authors writing to their expected audience's level.
art imitates life or some shit and life in the twenty first century sucks arse
because most of the books are slop catered to women's weird fantasies which are written by women. women read more and endorse shitty books which get featured even more. it's hard to find good books written recently.
post-modernity has killed the sense of seriousness and grandiosity that constitute the core of so many modern classics. in the post-modern era everything turn into a matter of meta-narrative our a soulless irony
publishers now are cowards. They refuse to print anything if the author joked about trannies or said Black person twenty years ago. God forbid their actual manuscript is mildly controversial. The end result is modern publishing is just one big echo chamber of bullshit.
>we need more troony and Black person jokes
Don't you grow tired of that shit?
Don't you grow tired of fellating trannies and Black folk? It's 2023, protected caste systems shouldn't exist.
>it has to be about trannies and Black folk
I mean, are you a troony Black person? Why do you feel like you have to talk about that shit?
>Why is contemporary literature so dull?
Because it is not about my cherished political beliefs, rather their beliefs. Simple as. I don't care for art. I care how it transmits messages such as anti-racism or racism, fellating Christianity or reeing about it etc. Now you get it?
It is just people being moronic and having unrealistic expectations out of regular stuff.
It is basically this, I bet that would also be the case in the past. Most books aren't that great or suck, that is why they didn't turned into classics. Same goes for contemporary stuff.
>It is basically this, I bet that would also be the case in the past.
The past had fewer people and there were more significant barriers to entry for publishing.
>political screeching
why do homosexuals like you get so upset when people make social and political observations?
Still, plenty of shit books, most of them didn't end up making. Consider math, there are still basic math books being printed, despite the old ones having the same shit the new ones have.
The scale is off by at least an order of magnitude.
>in the past
100 trash books produced, 50 of them show up in your local bookstore/library, 5 are highly acclaimed and most likely good, you filter the rest down to 10-15 based on blurbs/title/1st chapter etc.
OR
Stories were published as serials in periodicals, where you had a small handful of options every month.
>now
10,000 trash books produced, you navigate SEO'd web storefronts, AI shillbots and other marketing spam, mainstream critics are not trustworthy, in the hopes of somehow narrowing to a reasonable number. There are 6,000+ books listed on Royal Road's "Popular this Week" search alone.
>filter by subject
>skim said books
If you can't tell that a book doesn't suit your needs by reading less than 10 pages. It is a you problem.
>bro just read 10 pages of 10,000 books
You aren't getting the point.
I suppose if one were to read as carelessly as you, 10 pages goes by in about 2 minutes
>it is impossible
Maybe for you. I used to do that and it is quite doable, you can find a lot of good stuff. The only problem is that you have to look for it.
There are plenty of decent authors but you can’t think for yourself so you just hide behind “muh classics” like a stupid baby.
You are fricking nuts, even the "good ones" haven't written only good books. This is like asking, would you rather have the best minds of their time at their best, or just something that is ok and fresh?
>t. moronic troon
School sucks, most authors lived a coddled, privileged life with absolutely zero interesting experiences, and an industry which selects stories that push the narrative
The masses were taught to read and write.