>watching an interview about a Japanese Muslim trying to make Islam fit Japanese culture
>He talks about episodes of other Muslims attacking him for wearing a kimono because it's "heathen clothing"
>He also gets criticized for doing Islamic tea ceremony because tea ceremony is pagan
Why are Muslims so autistically so Arab-centric? Do they just want to Arabize every culture?
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>Why are Muslims so autistically so Arab-centric?
Because if you let other people keep their culture, you let them keep their dignity, honor and integrity. If they keep those things they might feel entitled to use their brain when reading the Quran and come to the conclusion that islam is the opposite of what the Quran says, which would threaten their status quo. A proper Reformation of islam would make arabs look like utter morons.
Arabs don't consider anyone but themselves "proper" Muslims. Chechens, Uzbeks, Iranians, Turks, Pakis, etc are all seen as second-class Muslims. They absolutely did not give a shit about their fellow Muslims in Kosovo being genocided by infidels and even supported Serbia over them.
>Arabs don't consider anyone but themselves "proper" Muslims.
Neither does the Koran.
His fault for converting to an inbred religion none of his countrymen share. What the frick was he thinking?
>Why is [Arab centric religion] so autistically Arab-centric?
Do the Arab's slaves living in the Levant/North Africa/Asia etc. just never bother to actually read the Koran? Islam is an first and foremost an Arab supremacist religion and always has been.
What other purpose could Islam have?
>gets criticized for doing Islamic tea ceremony because tea ceremony is pagan
This is true it's even more pagan than yoga
Nothing pagan about the Tea Ceremony
>arab pedo is the exemplar for all mankind forever
>every muslim must go to mecca once during their life
>holy book written in arabic
why wouldn't it be arab-centric
It is a Syriac heresy co-opted to justify Arabic dynasties
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To compare to Christianity, one of the critiques that some non-Christians in the world have is that Christianity's self-proclaimed universalism (one religion meant for everyone in the whole world) is actually a mask for a particular Western culture and its value system, like a vector for influence and control. There's an apocalyptic logic, "convert and be 'saved' or perish."
When the conquistadors arrive in Peru, they bring priests with them, and hand the Bible to the Incan king and say "this is the word of God." When the king holds the Bible up to his hear and doesn't hear anything and then tosses the book to the ground, then that's justification to kill him and take over the kingdom, which is what the conquistadors wanted to do anyways.
So think about that. Now you understand why China tries to "de-Arabize" mosques in Xinjiang. What really happened in recent decades, if anyone wants to have an honest conversation, is that Muslims were taken money from Saudi Arabia and Qatar to build Arab-style mosques while rejected localized Chinese Muslim style mosques, and then the new mosques promote sharia law, ostracizing people who practice Islam in their own way (or practice other religions), demanding special privileges from the government, and becoming double agents for the Arabs.
In European countries, there are people who used to go to mosques and were quite liberal: they didn't eat pork and fasted during Ramadan, but didn't want to cover their wives' faces or pray all the time. They are what you could call secular Muslims but the same process began. Many mosques began to be "subsidized" by the more politically correct big brothers of ISIS. And they would even get threatened by a few members of the changing "community." So Muslims elsewhere are by definition inferior, politically incorrect, and culturally inappropriate if facing their Arab "masters," who found a good number of potential soldiers of God in those countries where young Muslims are influenceable and sometimes frustrated.
Iran did something different. Most Iranians are Persian, not Arab, but there are also Arabs and Turks and Kurds. If Iran pulls back from Islam, then the integration of them will be problematic and likely taken advantage of by big powers. Shia Islam therefore is a form of "product differentiation." Iran is surrounded by Muslims. Accepting Sunni Islam means losing the ability to control the narrative and hence submitting to Arabs. Of course, according to the liberal, Iran can just join the West, but Iran being Islamic but not Sunni can both ensure its survival and also backstab the Arabs to gradually rebuild the Iranian sphere of influence.
Whether Iranians believe in it or not is another story, but as a ritual and a slogan, Islam has become a valuable strategic asset.
This post is just strange, you do undertand that Iran is theocracy right? By comparison the Saudis are a more secular monarchy.
Yes, but they are a Shia theocracy. Shia's have key differences:
1. Allow gays in the forms of transgenders
2. Allow the veneration of Holy men tombs and graves. This is a big deal as this allows non-arabs to construct their own holy sites for mass pilgrimage, serving as a alternative to the Arab owned Mecca
3. Allows more freedom in worship as they believe in saints
4. Basically allows a alternative form of Islam that isn't Arab dominated. This is why Sunnis are so violent against Shia, because it actually threatens Arab hegemony on Islam (for example Saudi resistance against a Houthi Shia force in Yemen). Though most Sunni think it's because Shia venerate Ali.
>To compare to Christianity, one of the critiques that some non-Christians in the world have is that Christianity's self-proclaimed universalism (one religion meant for everyone in the whole world) is actually a mask for a particular Western culture and its value system, like a vector for influence and control.
Which is unfair because Christianity wherever it has gone syncretized with local religious traditions to a considerable degree. This is most obvious in some place like Mexico where the Virgin Mary was identified as a manifestation of indigeneous Mesoamerican deities.
> This is most obvious in some place like Mexico where the Virgin Mary was identified as a manifestation of indigeneous Mesoamerican deities.
To be fair, Our Lady of Guadalupe is a mestizo, and any high native culture that existed in Mexico was wiped out by the Spaniards.
Mexicans can larp as natives, but the predominant Mexican in Mexico is a “mestizo”, or a Hispanicized native.
>To be fair, Our Lady of Guadalupe is a mestizo, and any high native culture that existed in Mexico was wiped out by the Spaniards.
Should have developed better immunity to smallpox then.
Christianity isn't western.
1st century Christians were as far east as India and are still there.
Your comment looks like GPT rubbish.
Christianity was developed by Europeans when the world was ruled by Greeks. The NT was first written in Greek.
>The NT was first written in Greek.
Yes. By israelites.
the Quran says that it's message is only for Arabs. In the early Surahs it's made clear they rest of the world already got it's messengers and the only people left without one were those who speak Arabic
Islam starts with Arab culture. Because it's inherently Arab, it's going to concern things that are a part of Arab life. it's going to be written using their idioms and language. It could have been adapted to other cultures, but hardliners, fundamentalists, and traditionalists will miss the idea of following the intent and focus on the details, declaring everything else as against the word of god, not realizing that some aspects don't work elsewhere (i.e. the clothing requirements wouldn't really work in Siberia). This is the problem with many "universal" religions, and at the same time proves that it's not a religious push, it's a cultural push.
Missionaries were most successful at selling East Asians on Christianity when they defined Jesus as a wise sage/teacher and downplayed his divine nature as Asians could not wrap their heads around the idea of a god being killed by mortal men.
accurate. as anon said Christianity most often syncretized elements of local cultures. the Christian religion as practiced in Ireland for example would be almost unrecognizable to a Greek.
>the Christian religion as practiced in Ireland for example would be almost unrecognizable to a Greek.
It's not.
As a romanian, we are sorta familiar with how catholics do things, and my family instinctively repeated after the coptic bishop, when he did his blessing at the british royal wedding.
Sure, you might have different funeral traditions, even a valley over, and even Saint Ambrose was confused by fasting days in Rome(hence the saying), but non-protestant christianity is pretty easy to figure out.
>If Islam favored and put Arabs above other races why in the world would an Arab fight against the Prophet
As if in politics, nationalists and communists dont spend most of the time power-struggling with other homosexuals in their ideological camp.
To add another example, when a famous Church of the East bishop visited Rome, on behalf of the mongols, and did a mass there, the italians were like "oh, everything he does is familiar, even if there are cultural differences".
Arab supremacy ideological camp? Why in the would Arab pagans side with israelites and plan to kill the Prophet if Islam gave advantages to Arabs? Why not just convert and take advantage of the so-called Arab supremacy that Islam promotes?
Muslims are so fricking moronic it's embarrassing to behold.
Do you have actual sources for this or is it a personal option/"well I heard"
Yes, just look at what happened to most muslim countries
One of the greatest enemies to Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) was literally Arab pagans. If Islam favored and put Arabs above other races why in the world would an Arab fight against the Prophet
Look up Abu Jahl he wanted to kill the Prophet as much as some israeli tribes did and engaged in torturing and humiliating Muslims despite being an Arab himself
I don’t know what tea ceremony is but if it involves fortune telling like with coffee ceremony in Turkey then yes that’s clearly pagan.
frick these muslim dogs and their homosexual prophet mohammed PBUH (piss be upon him)
It's been 2000+ years of listening to these shitty ancient desert tales. Can we start forming some new cults that form into major religions please? (I need an excuse to become a western tribal warlord)
It is quite strange, I live close to mosques and I see they all have their own mosques, I see arabs and turks go to one and sub-saharans go to another
The Persians won then.
Shia hadith says Allah speaks persian when he's happy and arabic when he's angry
Most Muslims don't care about cultural differences in faith unless they're braindead Salafi tards who call everything that isn't living like an acetic "shirk" or "haram".