why is it so hard to find front end dev jobs that requires no bachelor degree. Like wtf do you need a CS degree for if you're just gonna apply for front end.
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why is it so hard to find front end dev jobs that requires no bachelor degree.
If you're an autodidact and don't go to into debt for goy college you have to work for yourself until you have demonstratable experience, and even after that you have to actually have to be interviewed by tech staff and not HR cucks that don't know the job.
I hate HR roasties so much it's unreal.
>does zero work
checks out. at tech companies it's the males getting shit done.
I mean ultimately you won't want to work at the places gatekept by an HR stooge anyway. Think of it as a downhill job filtering system.
as if already being a lazy leach in the office wasn't enough
roasties fraternizing with Black folk at the end
guess you are what you eat
I've never met a competent front end dev so no matter with or without degree it doesn't seem to help either way.
Filtering pretentious and is cheaper than paying hours to developers to evaluate leetcode.
You don't. My brother went to Aus on a working Visa for two years and in his down time taught himself front end. After the two years he left the country, renewed his Visa and went back and applied for front end jobs. He's been working for the last 8 years in Australia as a front end dev. His first contract they were more impressed by the fact he taught himself and his small portfolio of personal work and a few odd jobs that they hired him... he's coming back to visit this summer and his return tickets are costing him nearly 7 grand AUD and the fricker can easily afford it. Meanwhile I'm just a lowly spark and I went to trade school for that.
cuz frontend these days is no different than backend. You gotta know lot of shit which comes from many CS concepts: async/await, state management, components decoupling, render optimization etc..
Thats why web apps built by people who know their shit work marvelously, and some run like absolute dogshit and make my laptop spin its fans
merely because there's lots of competition. not an especially hard field to get into.
i hear from a lot of people online that progammers can still easily find jobs without a degree if they have a portfolio to share.
that seems to be the experience of many people. i don't know how representative it is of most people though. but it's something i'm banking on as i don't have a degree.
A degree in stem always helps as courtesy imo. You can get diplomas in java for example , easy to get too if you know your shit. I think the latter is more than enough when you have a portfolio to show
You can definitely do it. I wouldn't say "easily", but you'll find something eventually if you know your stuff. And once you have some experience, the lack of degree won't matter as much.
You should always ask yourself one question:
Would you hire yourself if you had to pay yourself from your own money?
Would you hire the "well I c-can't show you everything but I have done an udemy course" guy? Probably not.
Would you hire a "I know my shit, I habe done this and that" guy? Yes.
Simple as.
No you do actually need the stuff you learn in college.
Otherwise youll be trying to import and beg for code and waste time and make the project more bloated.
Im glad that ended.
A stem degree is an IQ filter and IQ is the greatest predictor of job success.
i dunno, if you're 140 IQ, you'd probably suck at flipping burgers
The most IQ-filtering degrees are like physics & philosophy. CS is probably top-15, but you could probably take a physics major who has never coded and hire him cold, and he'd probably make a better programmer than most people with CS degrees.
Its because both of those are applied logic in a way. Not because they were born with the knowledge.
what if I have a degree but it's in something unrelated like accounting? does that help me get hired for front end jobs?
Maybe like some sort of database job would be better for someone with an accounting background.
For every entry level programmer who is ready to work, there are 199 people with an over-inflated opinion of their own programming ability and an unrealistic expectation of what is needed in the market. Even assuming you're part of the 0.5%, HR, recruiters, and algorithms need SOME sort of metric to filter through that torrential crap load of bad candidates without wasting everyone's time.
I could quiz the op with a simple problem and hed probably fail.
Like ask any of these dummies to make a sort by popularity algo.
Huh algo? Wats dat?
Huh you mean discrete math?
Oopsies
Star favicon bumps algo? Yeah i know a framework for that
You made that name up
Nobody names algorithms with more than word followed by algorithm
making a career change bros. do you think if I finish this whole course I can get a front end job?
https://scrimba.com/learn/frontend#
My experience as a full-stack dev has been that frontend is the easiest area to work on if you just need something that works, but possibly the hardest area to do well.
>state is the devil, and UI is all about state
>have no control over the devices your code runs on
>have to directly deal with user input
>have to assume the user is completely moronic, guess what they meant do do when they frick up
>don't bother writing error messages though, the user absolutely will not read them
>has to look good in addition to functioning
>has to be responsive, accessible, internationalisable, blah blah blah
I'm supposed to be working on some shitty react native form right now, and I'm procrastinating because I fricking hate it. My CV currently boasts "full stack" but for my next job hop I'm gonna de-emphasise the frontend stuff and specifically seek out backend roles.
That's probably the best reason to get your degree before starting in frontend- to make sure you have a route out of it.
because working with poor people sucks, and if I don't have to I won't