We all know that VPNs are mostly a scam unless you are torrenting or maybe bypassing country blocks.
Their best feature is month-to-month payment, but they don't have a lot of locations or special functionality.
Mulvad is just as compromised as all other VPNs, so what are some other compromised alternatives with interesting features?
They're a solid service but I don't see anything that puts them above the rest.
because IQfy is a hivemind, nuff said
It's a good vpn company. If you want one get them.
That being said, I don't use a VPN.
Honeypot.
simple as. any "privacy" service that is actively advertised should be assumed to be a honeypot until proven otherwise (which won't happen).
You can pay with cash and Monero, which are practically really hard to trace.
You are still putting your trust in them to not have logs.
As long as you're not connecting to the internet over your own network who gives a frick if they DO keep logs
>paying with memero to stay private
>trusting a VPN to not log your data anyways
p-privacy chads stay winning
They only just recently allowed people to pay with Monero. Any service that wasn't on board with Monero early on was clearly just theatre, and you can tell Mullvad was nothing but privacy theatre from the get go.
What? They've allowed crypto for years now, way before the whole vpn craze. And once you're able to trade crypto you can remain anonymous by simply tumbling your coins through monero (or any old coin tumbler)
You should go to a theatre
>if you can't immediately work out the issues brought on by accepting monero you're a honeypot
average monerotard
Does that even matter? wouldn't your privacy be compromised the moment you connect to it since you would be connecting with your ip? It seems to me the only way to make mullvad private would be to only connect to it over tor which is moronic in and of itself.
All centralized VPNs are obsolete dinosaur tech. Use decentralized VPNs like SolarDVPN (runs on Sentinel technology, which is the first and best). Mysterium and Orchid are some other ones that aren't as good. It's fricking amazing to me that IQfy still shills legacy VPNs like Mullvad. DVPNs have no centralized logs kept, can't be infiltrated by anyone, and are not blockable because nodes can be hosted anywhere by anyone. It's literally a skeleton key to the entire internet that will be taking down the great firewall of China and all state-sponsored censorship of the web within the next five years.
ANYTHING not labelled as a dVPN is pure outdated shit, 100% a placebo.
All DVPNs allow payment in crypto, btw. With Sentinel products you can even stake the native token and use the rewards to buy bandwidth, essentially making the product free forever with a one time of purchase of tokens.
how do you ensure that the nodes aren't simply all run by the nsa like tor is?
The guy you're replying to is paid by the NSA
indeed
This
is why dVPNs are a shit idea, exact same problem that TOR runs into. If anyone can host it, then you can bet your ass that 90% of the hosts are going to be feds.
there is no much "decentralization" when every node is owned by a glowing agency, like it is with tor
OVPN (another Swedish VPN, not to be confused with OpenVPN) > Mullvad.
>In control of their own infrastructure and takes the physical security of their hardware seriously
>No hard drives in their servers
>Specifies in detail how they're avoiding logs (pointing them to /dev/null etc)
>Accepts cash and crypto
>Very high speeds
>>In control of their own infrastructure and takes the physical security of their hardware seriously
mullvad does this aswell
https://mullvad.net/en/servers/
press 'owned'
>>No hard drives in their servers
mullvad is starting to do this aswell but seems like a meme feature anyways
in detail how they're avoiding logs (pointing them to /dev/null etc)
mullvad does this aswell
https://mullvad.net/en/help/no-logging-data-policy/#no-logs
cash and crypto
mullvad obviously does this
>>Very high speeds
mullvad has this
moron
The difference is that OVPN isn't being shilled here, which makes it superior. Enjoy your honeypot, homosexual.
Don't your posts constitute shilling for OVPN?
Litteraly every good vpn provider is owned by the feds just like how the Anom phone was. The only difference is this vpn provider is most likely not.
That being said if you want a truly private vpn throw a Raspberry Pi in a coffee shop.
>ANYTHING MENTIONED A LOT IS BAD AND MUST BE CIA
this is the techlet morons brain in action
MENTIONED A LOT IS BAD AND MUST BE CIA
>this is the techlet morons brain in action
But it's very clear in this case. Legally, VPNs have to cooperate with their governments regardless of what they say to consumers.
From a practical viewpoint, if VPNs could successfully bypass government monitoring, the government would shut it down.
It's a great set up for them because it gives them a great chance incriminate themselves like the guy in Switzerland who though using protonmail would protect him from making threats.
didn't read, use it or don't, take your meds schizo
>Why is Mullvad VPN shilled so hard?
It's a honeypot shilled to "tech savvy" morons
I just use it so I can torrent without my ISP sending me letters. I'm not try to run some kind of top secret operation from my house. Anti-VPN people are so fricking dramatic.
Mullvad is one of very few VPNs that don't ask for any info from you at all and also allow anonymous payment methods. Even if they do keep logs you could set things up so that it wouldn't matter.
Also, you use VPNs to escape the notice of your own government, not to achieve true anonymity. homosexual.
>you use VPNs to escape the notice of your own government
Assuming this is just in regards to pirating, why not just use any free "reputable" VPN? Paying to have your data logged either way is moronic.
>reputable
>free
Please, do go on. List these mythical beasts.
They're going to sell your data on no matter what. Which is why you just use them to pirate, then turn them off for anything else. You guys aren't using VPNs for general surfing, are you? Or I guess you could pay a VPN provider to sell and collect your data anyways.
>Paying to have your data logged either way is moronic.
Should terminate your internet subscription then.
They still have the most important thing: your IP, and therefore your physical location.
Then chain two VPNs together, problem solved.
I would like more information please [email protected]
They're the only transparent VPN services, just read their blog, plus they're Swedes and Swedes are beautiful and smart
didn't we have this thread yesterday?
>mole noun (2)
>4: a spy (such as a double agent) who establishes a cover long before beginning espionage
>broadly : one within an organization who passes on information
they're plainly telling you what they're up to up-front. very luciferian.
ITT glowBlack folk chilling anti vpn propaganda
I don't know how some people in these threads manages to be so stupid about this. Sometimes it feels like you guys are just repeating what others have said.
It's such a simple and braindead topic that any skid could form a solid opinion on and choose whether or not to use a VPN service based on their thread model and the use case.
I have literally no use for a VPN but I'm tempted to do business with them because I'm pro-Monero and want there to be circular economies in this kind of thing instead of everyone just hoping the value goes up.
Also the idea of paying for a privacy service with your credit card is just comical.
Once Sweden joins NATO all the VPNs by the Swedes might as well be American VPNs with logs.
That's not how any of this works.
feel free to refute it beyond saying "no"
Using a VPN for privacy is moronic, even more so if you expect to be able to use any VPN and circumvent glowies. Use a VPN solely if you want to mask your IP (torrenting, getting around IP bans) or ignore regional restrictions. If you truly care about privacy, use tor instead (which also glows but much less than vpns). Otherwise it's snake oil
Noob question: are ISPs able to detect VPN usage?
Yeah, but its not like they can or would do anything about it.
Forgot to add, what does the ISP see? The VPN's IP address?
They see a bunch of encrypted data going back and forth between you and the VPN provider.