Why is Western Literature (after Roman Empire) always either themes of rebellion against Christianity or missions of Christian nature, meaning & purpose?
And why is it that literature lacking these fails to reach high art which is why so few works of the East are accepted in the canon? Even Art of War is more of a law like strategy.
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>a Christian society produces Christian art
Woahh...deep...I wonder why Muslim literature has such a connection to Islam?
>why is [HEADCANON]
Adults are talking go back to Marxist TV shows
>Why is Western Literature (after Roman Empire) always either themes of rebellion against Christianity or missions of Christian nature, meaning & purpose?
Explain what you mean by this and provide some examples. It seems like a bit of a stretch to claim all western literature is primarily concerned with Christianity.
Name one that isn't?
https://www.openculture.com/2014/01/harold-bloom-creates-a-massive-list-of-works-in-the-western-canon.html
Moby Dick?
The first line is "I am Ishmael". Are you kidding me??
So is being called Ishmael a rebellion against Christianity or a mission of Christian nature?
Christian themes for sure. Ishmael is the brother of Isaac. If I can recall Moby Dick, its about an obsession with something that overtakes a Captain and a crew. A tragic cautionary tale, one could argue all cautionary tales have Christian moral tones. The Idigenous man with voodoo practices is a rebellion against God.
Yeah, but that would be broadening the concept you introduced to the point of making it meaningless anyway.
It has Christian stuff but it’s not a Christian mission nor a rebellion against Christianity
I don’t think it’s even really about Christianity at all
moby dick is a gnostic novel. it's entirely christian,
What are the uniquely Christian themes of MacBeth? Or the Great Gatsby? What is the Christian mission in a Tale of Two Cities?
MacBeth
The villian is obviously a Jezebel archetype and Macbeth. King Ahab (Macbeth) was drawn into sin by her.
Another cautionary tale.
>tragedy caused by greed and lust
>sacrifice
What makes these uniquely Christian?
Of course stories written in a Christian culture by Christians are influenced by Biblical stories. I'm asking what you mean here by a specifically Christian mission, which sounds much more specific.
Greed and Lust are sins that condemn the characters (Christian)without a redemption arc (Christian). In Buddhism, or paganism, these are not sins. If tge themes are Christian, they contain a Christian mission or rebellion against the Christian mission.
>In Buddhism, or paganism, these are not sins
But greed and lust are condemned by pagans and Buddhists, too.
No they aren't lmao. Pagans do not operate by the moral code. Understanding these things are wrong CAN exist in a pagan but has nothing to do with his religion.
You're not insightful, interesting, or intelligent. The only reason I am responding is to demonstrate how stupid you are so in that regard you have not wasted my time.
Great Gatsby is about greed and lust and the tragedy of those who suffer because it. Gatsby had a pure love for Daisy and was a victim of a sinful system and culture that upholds greed and selfishness.
Even if your superficial reading of Gatsby was right, you would be wrong in thinking those are inherently Christian themes as if they didn’t exist in pre-Christian literature.
Judeo-Christian, sure.
Its not a "superficial reading". I've read several of his books and his themes are repetitive. It goes back to his personal life in Alabama trying to seize an out of reach debutante.
like I said, even if your reading, superficial or not, is correct, the other point still stands. You seem to have failed to come up with a reply to that though.
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Great Gatsby is about greed and lust and the tragedy of those who suffer because it. Gatsby had a pure love for Daisy and was a victim of a sinful system and culture that upholds greed and selfishness.
Greed and Lust are sins that condemn the characters (Christian)without a redemption arc (Christian). In Buddhism, or paganism, these are not sins. If tge themes are Christian, they contain a Christian mission or rebellion against the Christian mission.
Tale of Two Cities is a Christian allegory about sacrifice.
Funny that you post a Harold Bloom list when he has a whole book about Shakespeare where he argues he was not particularly concerned with Christianity (in his art).
Harold Bloom is a Lib who sexually harassed one of his students. My post had nothing to do with him. Its just about the list.
if you don't care about what he has to say then why do you post a list made by him which specifically reflects what he thought about literature which includes authors that are not concerned with Christianity (because he was himself not concerned with it), contrary to what you implied in your OP that all post-Roman literature is Christian? Are you genuinely fricking moronic?
Its not about Harold Bloom. Its about the canon. Not sure why this has to be repeated.
Meds NOW.
Why are Christian threads so terrible?
Why are you on IQfy. You don't understand even the basics if you make that statement.
If you're not Christian, God won't bless you so it's difficult to write any good. If you're Christian, you glorify the Lord, so your art does it too.
Sounds idiotic.
It makes sense to me. Compare The Road to Paradise Lost.
I really wonder why EASTERN works are not in the WESTERN canon, it must be those pesky christians. Really boggles the mind, doesn’t it, OP?
>Eastern
>canon
Lol
>reading comprehension
>bad
Lol
No wonder you made the moronic OP.
Stay mad, your emotionalism is showing.
This thread is shit and won't go anywhere but it's worth mentioning that a lot more authors than you think are informed and shaped by Christianity and thus consciously incorporate Christian themes into their work.
Atheism as it stands today was unthinkable 70 years ago. Western countries not being synonymous with White and Christian is a nascent concept.
Ever since summer came, they planned on ruining the site. I'm going to operate irl which will make my views more effective. They should have just kept me online.
>after Roman Empire
The Roman Empire ended in 1922
DAYYYYM HESTER PRYNNE LOOKS LIKE THAT???????