how are their pricing with their actual hardware
i dont lurk enough to know laptop market prices
i was thinking of buying a 1k laptop for media and shitposting
i dont know if an arm based laptop would be better tho, i like long battery life
Laptops that can't be repaired only got popular because the other option was removed. Now that they are bringing it back there's no reason to consider cucked hardware that can't be repaired. It's the single most important feature in any device, being able to fix it when it eventually will break. Assuming that things won't break is the mindset of people who don't take backups either. Always assume it breaks.
poorgay and hoarder mentality
if laptop breaks just buy a new one
if data is lost then it was destined to be, you dont need those 3000 anime reaction pics
Bad bait, go use some disposable plastic forks and pretend they are better than washable metal ones. If you say it's true it must magically become true.
I buy silverware... Plastic forks can be washed and reused, try make a more coherent point.
>not a poorgay >on IQfy
go back to plebbit to post your heckin' epic >work setup
and consoom the newest bullshit meme
Le ebin memes bro. Its not 2006 anymore, you should be earning enough money by now to support your tech hobby kek. Pathetic neet loser.
2 years ago
Anonymous
have a nice day you fricking amerimutt
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Only amerilards use laptops
Brappy kek. You can tell this thread was made by a snickering redditor. But to answer op's question, get that laptop. It's pure kino.
2 years ago
Anonymous
poorgay neet keep crying
>treating tech as "le hobby"
Brappy kek. Basement dweller detected. Beer money in a paypal account from surveys don't count as a real job. Leddit is clearly more your speed.
you are no different to someone who buys a $1000 hyundai and thinks they are a car enthusiast lmfao
2 years ago
Anonymous
all of us are poorgay neets. go back.
2 years ago
Anonymous
like i said, its not 2006 anymore. you should be earning good money unless youre a literal underage or a loser neet top kek.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Underage's are based since they never listen to ledditors. Neets are ludo IQfy kino since they have infinte energy. (THTS SPellt urgngy fot the homosexuals)
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you are no different to someone who buys a $1000 hyundai and thinks they are a car enthusiast lmfao
they could be, and some ho driving a 200k mercedes might not be
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Buy expensive car >Somehow not an expert
Holy kekking moron. If you by an expensive car, it does make you a car expert. Its the same thing with art. The obly people willing to spend money on that shit, are the fricking experts. Snippy Brapppppppahp. Damn, you are a DUMB frick. Pure sneedle cattle. Kek-lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
>treating tech as "le hobby"
Brappy kek. Basement dweller detected. Beer money in a paypal account from surveys don't count as a real job. Leddit is clearly more your speed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't post again.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I buy silverware
Why? When it's time to fix the problem of it (dirty) you just buy another one. That's how low IQ consoooomers like you think. Everything has to be disposable trash and buying things made to last is for """poorgays""". This should sound ridiculous and somehow you still aren't even ashamed and hanging yourself. But you should. Feel free to even buy a rope that only lasts one use. Sort of like a last homosexual signature to dot the i.
No, consider the pentium 4 came out in 2000. So you use that until 2010 and it breaks. Do you repair your pentium 4 so you can use it for another 10 years or do you buy a new i3?
The pentium 4 is so outdated that you won’t be able to run things, so you buy the new i3.
So really, you only need a laptop to last 10 years and I know you’re going to be like “YOU CAN STILL USE A PENTIUM 4! THE ONLY REASON YOU CAN’T IS BECAUSE OF EVIL COMPANIES ABE BAD DEVELOPERS!”
Sure, that might be true but guess what? You live in a world with evil companies and bad developers. It’s noble you don’t want to endorse them but you also live in a society where you can’t socialize with normal people without a Facebook and shit.
You don’t need to go full stallman, you can still endorse free software and good practices. Lean towards those technologies but don’t harm yourself in the process.
it sounds good if you have lots of money to spend but there are cheaper repairable laptops like the x230
if you really need a modern processor, go for it, but i'd go with a stinkpad because i don't need more
It's a shitty macbook wannabe whose only advantage is that it's repairable. If you want a "good laptop" then this isn't it, if you want a "worth it's money laptop" then this isn't it, if you want a "trendy laptop" then this isn't it. The only reason to buy it is muh repair meme which you won't do anyway.
It's a meme, not serious enough. I'll only concede and approve them as real when they finally make the CPU (and dGPU if they decided to make larger model) user-removable (socketed), Make the motherboard customizable (renewed with newer components once every several years). Framework is promising for whipping all gay OEMs with non user-replaceable shit copying MacBooks.
Otherwise, it's nothing more than a laptop that you can "fidget" around.
>The only reason to buy it is muh repair meme which you won't do anyway.
Seems to be the case, if they sold one with vents on the sides instead of on the bottom then I might bite.
>I can see why people idealistically want the device but mine is really not up to being a usable production device. The wonky design of the “modules” means they’re practically useless, the hardware has almost endlessly has stability and issues with bricking, it has never once given me confidence in almost any respect. I want to love the thing and there’s nice features about the product, but I’d hesitate to suggest anybody seriously use the thing.
there is a reason they don't, they want to make usable device
that's an implementation issue, not a design issue. The fact that the ports are modular makes them more repairable. Framework just needs to improve reliability
i get that its repairable but what i really wanna know is do they have any moronic design defects that make them break in the first place? like how those old macbooks have the fans that redirect hot air onto the glue that holds the "unibody" together, or the thing withthe keyboard power button making it impossible to turn on if that thingy gets shorted so you cant even use an external keyboard, or any other of the number of grievances rossmann has publicized on his channel
Their biggest mistake is trying to appeal to the muh thin and sleek mac hipster audience instead of the Thinkpad worker audience. Mac users don't give a shit about repairability or non-Apple products, but someone who picks Thinkpad is exactly the kind of person that this kind of thing is valuable to.
Imagine if they had made a Thinkpad clone with replaceable trackpad with 3 trackpad buttons, replaceable keyboard with all the function keys that a programmer wants and proper key switches, 5+ USB ports and a lot of other input ports, and of course easily replaceable and repairable parts all the way from the screen to the inner components. Thinkpad would be dead.
I think they went with an ultrabook sized machine first so they can wave their dicks in the faces of people who claim that ultrabooks have to be built with proprietary and integrated hardware because of hurr size restrictions. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually did eventually come out with a thicker laptop with a hell of a lot more space to play with.
If they ever manage to get manufacturers to return to socketed mobile processors and MXM-like replaceable mobile video cards then I'll be impressed.
What they've got now is basically a proof of concept laptop to show off and attract additional funding with. Like funding a kickstarter except it's not some random jerkoff who's going to run off with your money.
>Their biggest mistake is trying to appeal to the muh thin and sleek mac hipster audience
because marketing, normies perceive thin devices as the highest technology and they don't like fat laptop because they are not as "thin" as they expect. Kind of like a car, normies think GM, BMW and Tesla are "better" cars that japanese brands because they are complete ignorant about cars, laptops or whatever shit .
Has anyone used one of these things? I'm worried about the quality of the keyboard. It looks really cool though, might sell my Thinkpad and buy the DIY version if it ever comes in stock
entire idea of this company is that its products will break and you will repair them, theyre banking on the fact that their hardware breaks and is easily replaceable.
no, not the future because the average consumer will toss their device and buy a new one.
see, broken iphones, bought a new one. broken mac or windows laptop, just buys a new one. the idea of repair is great and I'm all for right to repair but nobody actually cares. same type of thing with linux, it's great, but 90% of people don't care.
How much more repairable is it than a normal laptop?
I can swap out the nvme drives, ram, wifi card, battery and probably some other doohickeys on my Lenovo.
Well, whether I could get replacements is another question.
I think the only things that could frick me are the Mobo/CPU and GPU, which are all soldered together afaik.
>$1050 for an i5 that you can pick up from Staples for $500 >but it repairable >I wonder how much a replacement CPU is >$500 >but its good for the environment
lol okay
Idk but I really hate breaking clips on laptops when taking them apart to clean or upgrade. If they could make a laptop that is solid and doesn't have clips it would be a meaningful improvement on the product.
It seems like a good idea for a laptop, but it likely won't take off. Normies don't give a shit about repairability. Even with the ripoff macbook design and the linus shilling, no one will probably buy it.
which brand
it looks cool
since lenovo Thinkpads have gone downhill
Framework
how are their pricing with their actual hardware
i dont lurk enough to know laptop market prices
i was thinking of buying a 1k laptop for media and shitposting
i dont know if an arm based laptop would be better tho, i like long battery life
if you buy the diy edition then windows is an optional purchase and you save like $80, pretty based ngl
M1 is pretty much the only well supported competent ARM chip for linux desktops.
On wibdows its all qualcomm and its shit.
Check hp dev one, is 1k
nobody gives a fricking shit what you do. it's not our concern. go to reddit and stay there, thanks.
average Thinkpad user seething
>OP inquires for consumer advice
>Gets redirected to Reddit.com
Thx
Laptops that can't be repaired only got popular because the other option was removed. Now that they are bringing it back there's no reason to consider cucked hardware that can't be repaired. It's the single most important feature in any device, being able to fix it when it eventually will break. Assuming that things won't break is the mindset of people who don't take backups either. Always assume it breaks.
poorgay and hoarder mentality
if laptop breaks just buy a new one
if data is lost then it was destined to be, you dont need those 3000 anime reaction pics
Bad bait, go use some disposable plastic forks and pretend they are better than washable metal ones. If you say it's true it must magically become true.
I buy silverware... Plastic forks can be washed and reused, try make a more coherent point.
Le ebin memes bro. Its not 2006 anymore, you should be earning enough money by now to support your tech hobby kek. Pathetic neet loser.
have a nice day you fricking amerimutt
>Only amerilards use laptops
Brappy kek. You can tell this thread was made by a snickering redditor. But to answer op's question, get that laptop. It's pure kino.
poorgay neet keep crying
you are no different to someone who buys a $1000 hyundai and thinks they are a car enthusiast lmfao
all of us are poorgay neets. go back.
like i said, its not 2006 anymore. you should be earning good money unless youre a literal underage or a loser neet top kek.
Underage's are based since they never listen to ledditors. Neets are ludo IQfy kino since they have infinte energy. (THTS SPellt urgngy fot the homosexuals)
>you are no different to someone who buys a $1000 hyundai and thinks they are a car enthusiast lmfao
they could be, and some ho driving a 200k mercedes might not be
>Buy expensive car
>Somehow not an expert
Holy kekking moron. If you by an expensive car, it does make you a car expert. Its the same thing with art. The obly people willing to spend money on that shit, are the fricking experts. Snippy Brapppppppahp. Damn, you are a DUMB frick. Pure sneedle cattle. Kek-lmao
>treating tech as "le hobby"
Brappy kek. Basement dweller detected. Beer money in a paypal account from surveys don't count as a real job. Leddit is clearly more your speed.
Don't post again.
>I buy silverware
Why? When it's time to fix the problem of it (dirty) you just buy another one. That's how low IQ consoooomers like you think. Everything has to be disposable trash and buying things made to last is for """poorgays""". This should sound ridiculous and somehow you still aren't even ashamed and hanging yourself. But you should. Feel free to even buy a rope that only lasts one use. Sort of like a last homosexual signature to dot the i.
>not a poorgay
>on IQfy
go back to plebbit to post your heckin' epic
>work setup
and consoom the newest bullshit meme
You do realise that have a general about desk setups yeah
>it was destined to be
Ancestral cope
Also bait
>3000
>3000 anime reaction pics
Those are rookie numbers homosexual, clearly you speak from experience of data loss
>if data is lost then it was destined to be
Applegay soldered SSD cope.
I know this is bait because nobody's genuinely this much of an idiot,, but I'll bite. It's called "not wanting to be wasteful", dumbass.
$ find ~/img/ -type f | wc -l
23000
Post 'em gaylos
Also check my fricking triplels lmao
No, consider the pentium 4 came out in 2000. So you use that until 2010 and it breaks. Do you repair your pentium 4 so you can use it for another 10 years or do you buy a new i3?
The pentium 4 is so outdated that you won’t be able to run things, so you buy the new i3.
So really, you only need a laptop to last 10 years and I know you’re going to be like “YOU CAN STILL USE A PENTIUM 4! THE ONLY REASON YOU CAN’T IS BECAUSE OF EVIL COMPANIES ABE BAD DEVELOPERS!”
Sure, that might be true but guess what? You live in a world with evil companies and bad developers. It’s noble you don’t want to endorse them but you also live in a society where you can’t socialize with normal people without a Facebook and shit.
You don’t need to go full stallman, you can still endorse free software and good practices. Lean towards those technologies but don’t harm yourself in the process.
it sounds good if you have lots of money to spend but there are cheaper repairable laptops like the x230
if you really need a modern processor, go for it, but i'd go with a stinkpad because i don't need more
It's a shitty macbook wannabe whose only advantage is that it's repairable. If you want a "good laptop" then this isn't it, if you want a "worth it's money laptop" then this isn't it, if you want a "trendy laptop" then this isn't it. The only reason to buy it is muh repair meme which you won't do anyway.
All laptops are repairable anyway, with the right skills. It just seems some anons are so braindead they can only do basic b***h plug and play shit.
It's a meme, not serious enough. I'll only concede and approve them as real when they finally make the CPU (and dGPU if they decided to make larger model) user-removable (socketed), Make the motherboard customizable (renewed with newer components once every several years). Framework is promising for whipping all gay OEMs with non user-replaceable shit copying MacBooks.
Otherwise, it's nothing more than a laptop that you can "fidget" around.
>The only reason to buy it is muh repair meme which you won't do anyway.
Seems to be the case, if they sold one with vents on the sides instead of on the bottom then I might bite.
>too poor to buy the newest Macbook Pro M3 Super Pro Ultra Max troony Killer when his old one breaks
Many such cases
>Implying trad's don't use mac's
>LOSEmurican/TARDOpian education at work, everyone. Vertification not required.
Why would you want to repair a laptop, just buy a new one.
Why even buy one? Just fix it ya snickin leetdditor. Leet means no quck snapspeak frm hate4six
Go back to 9gag. You stinky.
>laptops can be repaired
>company doesn't sell laptops as customers just fix them
>campany goes bankrupt
>customers can no longer buy parts
I just wanted advice on the laptop why are all of you schizophrenic
welcome to weeb hell
I'm not buying any more new laptops, I only buy cheap used thinkpads.
>repairable laptop
it's as repairable as average Dell Latitude or HP Elitebook, it's scam for HackerNews/Silicon Valley crowd
do dell and hp have modular removable ports?
>I can see why people idealistically want the device but mine is really not up to being a usable production device. The wonky design of the “modules” means they’re practically useless, the hardware has almost endlessly has stability and issues with bricking, it has never once given me confidence in almost any respect. I want to love the thing and there’s nice features about the product, but I’d hesitate to suggest anybody seriously use the thing.
there is a reason they don't, they want to make usable device
that's an implementation issue, not a design issue. The fact that the ports are modular makes them more repairable. Framework just needs to improve reliability
no they just give you all the ports you need and you don't have to buy $20 modules (AKA dongles)
i get that its repairable but what i really wanna know is do they have any moronic design defects that make them break in the first place? like how those old macbooks have the fans that redirect hot air onto the glue that holds the "unibody" together, or the thing withthe keyboard power button making it impossible to turn on if that thingy gets shorted so you cant even use an external keyboard, or any other of the number of grievances rossmann has publicized on his channel
Their biggest mistake is trying to appeal to the muh thin and sleek mac hipster audience instead of the Thinkpad worker audience. Mac users don't give a shit about repairability or non-Apple products, but someone who picks Thinkpad is exactly the kind of person that this kind of thing is valuable to.
Imagine if they had made a Thinkpad clone with replaceable trackpad with 3 trackpad buttons, replaceable keyboard with all the function keys that a programmer wants and proper key switches, 5+ USB ports and a lot of other input ports, and of course easily replaceable and repairable parts all the way from the screen to the inner components. Thinkpad would be dead.
If clevo was cheaper we'd ready be at optimum repairability
I think they went with an ultrabook sized machine first so they can wave their dicks in the faces of people who claim that ultrabooks have to be built with proprietary and integrated hardware because of hurr size restrictions. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually did eventually come out with a thicker laptop with a hell of a lot more space to play with.
If they ever manage to get manufacturers to return to socketed mobile processors and MXM-like replaceable mobile video cards then I'll be impressed.
What they've got now is basically a proof of concept laptop to show off and attract additional funding with. Like funding a kickstarter except it's not some random jerkoff who's going to run off with your money.
>Their biggest mistake is trying to appeal to the muh thin and sleek mac hipster audience
because marketing, normies perceive thin devices as the highest technology and they don't like fat laptop because they are not as "thin" as they expect. Kind of like a car, normies think GM, BMW and Tesla are "better" cars that japanese brands because they are complete ignorant about cars, laptops or whatever shit .
Has anyone used one of these things? I'm worried about the quality of the keyboard. It looks really cool though, might sell my Thinkpad and buy the DIY version if it ever comes in stock
entire idea of this company is that its products will break and you will repair them, theyre banking on the fact that their hardware breaks and is easily replaceable.
no, not the future because the average consumer will toss their device and buy a new one.
see, broken iphones, bought a new one. broken mac or windows laptop, just buys a new one. the idea of repair is great and I'm all for right to repair but nobody actually cares. same type of thing with linux, it's great, but 90% of people don't care.
Until they stop using incel cpu that's going to be a no for me dawg
its good but that wifi cable is a b***h
I will never buy it, simply because LinusTechTips invested big amount of money in them
Criticize the man all you want, at least he knows how to run a company.
If he knew how to run a company he would’ve never had his moronic podcast and access to twitter. He is literally the LMG brand risk.
you vill consoom the $100 chink screwdriver set
>Why shouldn't I buy the meme repairable laptop?
Why?
It's ceo and founder is a indian sir
SO REPAIRABLE!
>swaps out the entire motherboard for a new israelitetel processor
ngmi
How much more repairable is it than a normal laptop?
I can swap out the nvme drives, ram, wifi card, battery and probably some other doohickeys on my Lenovo.
Well, whether I could get replacements is another question.
I think the only things that could frick me are the Mobo/CPU and GPU, which are all soldered together afaik.
>intel
because the parts will be more than a whole laptop from the same era in a few years.
Intel
>$1050 for an i5 that you can pick up from Staples for $500
>but it repairable
>I wonder how much a replacement CPU is
>$500
>but its good for the environment
lol okay
Idk but I really hate breaking clips on laptops when taking them apart to clean or upgrade. If they could make a laptop that is solid and doesn't have clips it would be a meaningful improvement on the product.
It seems like a good idea for a laptop, but it likely won't take off. Normies don't give a shit about repairability. Even with the ripoff macbook design and the linus shilling, no one will probably buy it.