Why won't zoomers accept one of the many jobs employers are begging for them to take?
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Why won't zoomers accept one of the many jobs employers are begging for them to take?
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I wish this was true but its just more articles from big business trying to get cheap hires by creating a sense of urgency in the job market.
It's actually the government doing this. They've written extensively about labor insecurity and its positive effects in their internal demon-scribble.
The Federal Reserve has stated their goal is to bring wages down. Obviously this is some ploy to flood the country with more migrants and lower wages
i have still one semester to sit in uni, then i will wage, promise
Those jobs have shit wages. I won't even get dressed for work if it's less than 25/hr
Murder your HR and your admin and then we'll talk.
it's bullshit, there are no jobs.
>there are no jobs
Wrong
https://careers.mcdonalds.com/main/
https://careers.walmart.com/
https://www.amazon.jobs/en/
https://www.uber.com/us/en/drive/
and all of them have 3000 applications from 3rd world immigrants. 50% of them are listings for positions that don't actually exist to give the illusion of prosperity.
Just say you never tried.
Some of this is spot on, especially not getting israelite'd into debt.
>not of course discounting the number of jobs that you simply lack the experience in your field for
Seems like those would be the jobs you'd want. Better get to learning new skills.
>18 years in planet Earth
>no gumption to develop 1 marketable skill
>le SWEAT Pleadge
Nice try, Mike.
All of the jobs he did on the show are impossible to find or do. Its all mom and pop shit you will only ever do if you were born into the family or their neighbor. You will never find jobs for shaving sheep or managing a garbage dump on Craigslist without qualifications, experience and licenses required.
Its so fricking over for NEETs its crazy so many still exist and haven't starved to death on the street. Its purely a testament to the wealth and prosperity the greatest generation gave to us.
>All of the jobs he did on the show are impossible to find or do.
Yeah, most "shit" jobs are never advertised anywhere, at best you might find about it from word of mouth. Which for /robots/ is another impossible thing.
e.g.: Moving companies, poultry farms, pig farms, night watchman, never seen one advertised anywhere. But they exist because I know/knew people working those.
Yup, basically if you don't have a social circle you are fricked until you get one and people in generally are getting more socially distant.
Kek. I had a friend quit his job to try and get nightwatchmen job. A year later he was back to work. Literally zero responses. When he finally asked a guy how he got the job, it was via a jeet whatsapp group where jeet owned cleaning and security companies and petrol station clerks hire other jeets for cash in hand jobs at well below minimum wage.
thank god i live in a country that protects me from idiots like him, but rule 5 is good advice though
>5 is good advice
It kind of isn't if he's including mortgages.
Realistically the alternative to a mortgage for a house for most people is paying rent for an apartment. And rent vs. mortgage are the same except with rent you're just throwing money away while with a mortgage it progressively pays down a loan on a property you actually own immediately at the time of purchase and can use as an asset to free up hundreds of thousands of dollars in the future if you decide to sell it. Plus if you're in the US you get 30 year fixed rates for interest so while rent rates keep rising your locked in rate will stay the same for decades to come.
>It kind of isn't if he's including mortgages.
yes, that sounds sensible and maybe it would be also ok for something like a car bc there are just no real ways around it
Here paying rent used to be much cheaper than mortgage. Nowdays it's not.
Same. But the banks won't let you get a mortgage even with a 900 credit score if you haven't had 2 years stable employment making current rent + mortgage * 3 minimum after taxes.
Yeah. Exactly the same here
>Don't know if you can make the payments anon
>But my rent is already higher than the repayments
>sorry anon, good luck. If you're looking for a squalid room to rent, heres my card. I own ten investment properties
The US is a third world country, glad to be a europoor.
I moved from the U.K.
That shithole and France (Southern Europe also from what I hear) are even worse than the U.S. (for non morons).
I hear the Scandinavians have it good tho
I'm unironically moving back to France because I can't find a fricking job here. But when employers see I'm in the US they don't want to interview me. I'll have to redo my whole set of application documents and use an uncle's address I guess.
Also want to give a try to scandi countries but I think they also don't want to talk because I'm not in the EU right now, which is my primary reason for going back to France. Once inside the EU it should be way easier to interview, be it in Germany, Norway or Switzerland.
Yeah. Imagine living in Norway or Switzerland. They are like real life Disneyland. I'd just neck if I had to return to the U.K.
>glad to be a europoor.
Bro...might be different depending on the country, but for me (one of the P.I.G.S.), average shitty job you can expect to bring home 800-900e a month, rents in my town that isn't exactly a very sought after place are at 450-550e for a studio apartment. Rooms go for 200-300e/month.
And I better ignore the places being rented by poojets and company that then fill 3 bedrooms and a living room with a dozen poojeets/assorted turd world monkeys.
I know people who are paying a (reasonably recent, within the last 5 years) mortgage of 300-350e for a 3 bedroom apartment and renting it for over 800e.
Had a co-worker who had the opportunity (got some money from a dead relative or something) so she and her husband went and bought an old house, she's paying some 40% less for the mortgage than she was paying for rent on her last house. And the mortgage included enough money to do enough renovations on the house to make it decent and build a small workshop for her husband.
The problem is always the same: financing.
>Maintenance is a b***h,
What fricking maintenance?
My parents and I have been renting our entire lives (put together, some 70 years of experience doing it), neither of us ever saw a landlord making any maintenance beyond the very basics (coat of paint outside every 20 years, change the windows because the 50 years old wooden windows were rotting). Then again, Yurop, we don't build houses with cardboard and toothpicks.
>Then again, Yurop, we don't build houses with cardboard and toothpicks.
It's the same here with our cardboard houses, never ever any maintenance done by landlords. There are numerous scandals every quarter about people getting roofs falling on them. I had rats and a massive mold spot in my previous apartment, bugged the landlord every week about it and nothing was ever done. Couldn't leave because I would have to pay 2-3x in rent for 1/4 the size anywhere else thanks to covid but those no-maint shit were from before covid.
Maintenance is a b***h, that's what they're worried renters won't be able to afford. Banks are concerned you'll get slammed with insurmountable maintenance costs and either have to sell the house too soon or you let the house become a dilapidated piece of shit they eat a loss on when they repossess. Just in the first two years of owning my house I had to replace:
>roof
>gutters
>furnace
>water heater
>kitchen sink/garbage disposal
>fix a problem with the AC
>replace some damaged siding
>fix some fricked wiring
>pest control for a bat infestation in the attic
>bought a washer and dryer when I moved in because previous owners kept theirs
>also had to buy a lawn mower, weed wacker and some tools for DIY work/maintenance around the house
Any of that shit needs to be handled while renting an apartment and it's the landlord's problem. Totally different ballgame when it's your problem. Some of this stuff I knew I'd have to address soon when I bought thanks to my inspection, like the furnace and the roof and the gutters and the W/D. But some of it was a fun little surprise of discovering what decades of half-assed boomer maintenance looks like.
This was just the bare minimum to keep my house from getting run down. Then there's the optional stuff I did like new flooring, new toilets, new paint, new light fixtures and some new doors. You don't really get how expensive it is owning a house until you've done it yourself. Yeah, my mortgage is cheaper than comparable apartments in my area. But renters aren't getting bent over by Home Depot every couple weeks and some type of contractor every couple months.
Not sure if clinically moronic or merely israelitelarping.jpg
>i live in america
dude never lived anywhere besides america and thinks he is living the best life
If you want to build a business empire, I guess it's good. If you just want to live a normal life, you're fricked.
>thinks he is living the best life
He actually is though
>got to go around the country before things turned out really shit doing interesting jobs for a couple days at a time
>make millions with his tv show
>set for life and can now smugly and classically
He is the perfect boomer life. He gets to pretend he is gruff and hard working. He can invite immigrants over, give them jobs because they're such hard workers and then look at you smugly and ask why you don't have a job.
He is, you don't suffer in unitedstatistan.
>wages higher than everywhere else
>taxes lower than everywhere else
>everything is cheaper than everywhere else
Inb4
>boooo hoooo I can't afford 400 m2 mansion in the centre of New York working as burger flipper
Kys
>wages higher than everywhere else
>cost of living higher than everywhere else
>taxes lower than everywhere else
objectively false
>everything is cheaper
also objectively false.
>I believe that all people are created equal.
Anyone and everyone who genuinely believes this is a dangerous psychopath who should be ignored.
TOTAL. BOOMER. DEATH.
>t. ori
Lmao what's mike rowe doing holding that. Based mike. Wish I could get a copy of that and hang it up in my room. I'm still not going to work though.
I actually agree with everything except 3. 10. and 12. Ironically 11 contradicts 10. 5. is legit good advice. Rest is a bit wagecucky but if you're gong to survive in America it's not the worst advice.
>sweat pledge meme
deboonked
Hilarious, very nice
Good bait, anon (I refuse to believe someone can be this fricking stupid).
Lmao eat a fat wiener wage slave owners. Thank god I was born a hot bio foid, it exempts me from all of this horseshit. Call me a prostitute all you like, I'm not the one slaving the best years of my life away for some billion dollar industry that wouldn't give a shit less if you died tomorrow.
its incredible how much uglier this slag got to me after i saw her c**t, most women are just the opposite
What's Amazon like? Working at our versions of McDonald's and Wal Mart actually costs you money since doing the ten hours a week they give you barely covers costs.
>lists wage slave jobs
I am already wage slaving Black person. I want to fricking leave it and get a better paying job.
you are honestly just as well off working there as on welfare.
I got a STEM degree no work so worked shit jobs and now im doing a trade at college.
If a job doesnt pay me at least $25/hr leafbucks im not working it. i worked 2 minimum.wage jobs before one full time and one part time and still couldnt afford to eat.
Stay at home and be NEET than work. You cannot afford to eat, rent or have hobbies on minimum wage.
>25 leaves = 18.42 usd
Very reasonable anon, personally I'm not working for anything under 20
>companies are desperate to hire
>every job I apply to on indeed in midsize city
>50-100 applicants
>find good job on Insneed
>oh cool this seems perfect, I'll take the time to tailor my resume for this job and I'll even write a cover letter
>2 hours later finally done
>submit
>over 500 applicants
>2-6 weeks later get an email saying they have moved on to the next step in the interview process without selecting me
I wish they would show the number of applicants BEFORE you apply so I would know not to waste my time on needle in a haystack postings
The worst part is when you finally land something and notice none of your coleagues have even 1/10th the qualifications the putative winners of such bullshit ads ought to have for them to not select you for phase 1.
I have one pre-cooked cover letter and resume that I change about two or 3 lines on each for each posting. It only adds maybe 15 min per application to make these small changes and I think it increases the odds of getting hired by at least 10% or something. Worth it, considering.
Haha they actually send you emails letting you know they didn't pick you and to stop waiting on further news? Lucky.
Its the only job hr prostitutes do on the regular besides waste company resources.
>literally apply to jobs advertising they need to hire
>no one gets hired
Also - all through my 20s and 30s I applied for apprenticeships. I was assured, living in one of the world's premiere cities that we have a never ending shortage of tradesmen...yet no one seems to need to train future tradesmen unless they are related to them.
>apply for job as entry level dishwasher
>"Sorry, Anon. You need a Ph.D. in Thermodynamics and 10 years experience for this entry-level job."
>apply for job as entry level dishwasher
>"Sorry, Anon. You need a Ph.D. in Thermodynamics and 10 years experience for this entry-level job."
Not American, but the bullshit on entry level jobs is the same all around the world.
Best I've seen recently was a "dishwasher" for a restaurant. They expected you to be a cook with experience. Minimum wage, of course.
And one for a worker to be at the counter on some cafe/restaurant. Expected to also serve tables and have a "passion for cooking". Basically one person to do the job of 3 and the boss would only come in to collect the money.
Why dont the employers offer better wages?
its not even about the wages, just lower your fricking standards.
A mid 20's white person shouldn't have to have a fricking 4 year degree to put numbers into an excel spread sheet and send emails.
Zoomers deadass dont know how to use excel frfr no cap on god
They use google sheets
Skibbity gang gang
current job market:
>businesses with a >200% annual turnover rate(amazon, any warehousing job for a major company, etc.)
>businesses who put out fake applications to claim "Growth phase"
>businesses who never close their applications (railroads, delivery drivers)
>businesses with impossible requirements(entry level jobs with 2 years experience minimum)
>businesses that won't hire you(internal hiring, job lotteries like the longshoremen, etc.)
>retail(wages so low they aren't livable)
not of course discounting the number of jobs that you simply lack the experience in your field for
so yes moronic boomers, there are in fact not enough jobs to go around
kek zoomshit cope. You will serve me my burger and you will smile
Everything he mentioned is objectively real though.
>doesn't refute any of his points and just says "cope"
lmao fricking boomers deserve the rope
Don't forget the military.
>We are desperate for recruits!
>last year 77% of applicants were deemed inadmissable at the application phase
That one actually is legitimate. The vast majority of people applying for the military are bottom of the barrel morons whose only other options are crime, fast food or retail. They can simultaneously be desperate for more recruits while also turning away most of the mouth breathers who apply. It's not like private sector industries turning away countless people who are perfectly capable of doing the job if the employer invests a few weeks of training instead of demanding every new hire is perfect right out of the box.
>They can simultaneously be desperate for more recruits while also turning away most of the mouth breathers who apply.
Not really
>The vast majority of people applying for the military are bottom of the barrel morons whose only other options are crime, fast food or retail.
That's literally 95% of military enlisted in every country.
>It's not like private sector industries turning away countless people who are perfectly capable of doing the job if the employer invests a few weeks of training instead of demanding every new hire is perfect right out of the box.
Every military sucks its own dick about how great they are at developing people. Private sector at least has the excuse of "can't afford it sorry". Military is basically a fat b***h crying that Chad doesn't want to put a ring on it
Oh well I guess they're not really that desperate then. They're girl-desperate where they're begging for the perfect men to come along and fill all their positions but turning away almost everyone who is actually interested.
How many of those employers will hire people with no experience or qualifications?
>yeah i'll hire you just have this wonky ass schedule with cut hours and do this exactly how i do so i can save whatever pennies. times are tough for businesses man
>apply to all entry level positions for 7 months
>finally get hired once the seasonal period starts
>literally everyone i work with slacks off, is slow, starts drama, etc but they can't get fired because the company doesn't want to pay unemployment
it's fricking insane
also watching managers and supervisors flirt with 18 year old women is gross as frick. i'd get tested for drugs at my old job, but this one girl who always had red eyes and smelled like weed could do what she wanted because she flirted with the people in charge. it's so fricking hopeless.
this shit is why it's so hard to find work: hiring a bad person is way worse than hiring nobody at all
i don't mind working if conditions and pay are decent but even getting a foot in the door is augean
employee protections need to be lowered in favour of actually getting good people into work and bad people out of it
It's the opposite. When you have no protection (like here) they'll throw out good people to hire 4 bad people for 3x the price then wonder why they're going bankrupt.
sounds like a place you wouldn't want to work anyway 🙂
Yes, if there were any other options, which there aren't.
crazy that all businesses are going bankrupt and overhiring shitters sounds like ample ground for competition
you're right though anon
i want to start my own business but i'd be going in blind to basically anything and i'd do it if i had a partner to at least work with and worry with but nobody i trust wants to
>waah nobody wants to work anymore
I've sent out 80something applications in the past month and not one has gotten back to me.
I have 2 years exp including 1 year at microsoft fulltime. Also a PhD and a master's in extremely hot fields, all based off CS. Can't get a junior dev job, not even an internship, let alone something actually in my specialty.
Please let me know where all those jobs are. I'm dying for one (literally).
***I apologize for the following rant, i typed the BELOW during a testosterone rage, i sincerely apologize. The point i was making was i have no reason to serve any corporation. I see no value in working so hard without gf.***
12 DOLLARS AN HOUR 12 HOURS A DAY 6 DAYS A WEEK
Occasionally your crackhead coworker fricks up and it sends an 60 pound chunk of steel pinball bouncing off the steel beams in the ground at ANKLE and KNEE height
Sure thats damn near 1000 a week but I JUST WANT A GF I DIDNT ENJOY ENOUGH PUSSY FOR THIS SHITTT IM ONLY 21 I HAVNT EVEN SMELLED A GIRLS HAIR SINCE I WAS 13
Fricking shithole place doesnt even give me enough time to get a clingy obsessed gf. One time i slept on the floor in my industrial grease soaked clothes because i was too tired to eat and shower.
I didn't even have TIME or energy to make a girl happy working in that factory i was busy rolling grease onto steel pipes or busy washing globs of grease off my skin
I HATE THE MODERN WORLD I JUST WANTED MONEY TO MAKE A GIRL HAPPY AND FALL ASLEEP WITH MY HEAD BURIED IN HER HAIR
...WHAT MOTIVATION DO I HAVE TO WORK SO HARD?!?! I dont give a SHIT about money!!!! WHAT IS THERE TO WORK FOR?!?!? SO WHAT if theres funny numbers in bank account i fricking hate having no girl.
THEN when i try to get a job at retail.
I cant give them a single reason on how having me is an advantage. I cant get a job at fast food or restaurant work they never call back.
Im breaking down i just wanted to make a girl happy i act so crazy rn BECAUSE I CANT FUNCTION WITHOUT LOVE.
I told myself at 13 itll be better at 16 ill find my wifey then...then 18...
i want to throw up THE BOOMERS TOLD ME"KEEP VIRGINITY FOR ETERNAL TRADWIFE"
NOOOO i missed out on SOOO MANY OPPORTUNITIES there was about 10 girls in my school that offered me things and i was so "cool and nonsimp" frick i hate this.
NOW IM OUT OF HIGHSCHOOL and i just want to vomit
WHY DID I DO THIS TO MYSELF
WHERE DID ALL THR FEMALES GO
You're a normalBlack person. You're only 21 and you already had a normalBlack person gf at 13. Die normalBlack person die.
Tell me to die chubbs bunny i bet i could roll you all around the factory floor
I hugged a latina girl for a few weeks that didn't even speak my language i am not a normal
Its a distant memory and i cant even remember her face.... it hurts... im missing out.
>I do normalgay shit that couldn't in a million years happen to a robot
>that means I'm not a normalgay
lol
everytime with you normalBlack folk.
If you work in a ball-sizing plant that explains a whole fricking bunch.
No wonder half the honed tubing we got had frickoff huge grooves scraped in it if it was being made by 12/HR workers doing 70 hour weeks.
It took me 10 months to get a job, and the only reason I got it was because the other person was a Chinese PhD graduate whose visa wouldn't let him work full-time, so they split it into 2 half-time jobs.
Grim, did you have to lie on your resume?
No, but I had attended the best university in the country.
For me it took 4 months. 242 applications + 32 postdoc applications. This converted to 21 response: all but 7 were rejections with no call. 7 went to first phase interview, only 1 proceeded beyond 1st phase. For the other 6 I was a 1:1 perfect match but they still rejected with no feedback.
Then I got fired on the spot when I asked for a raise because I undersold myself and was the least paid employee at the company.
Apparently the market is even worse right now than it was then.
AND i worked in a mechanic shop run by ukranians, was okay. I learned alot and worked hard but only for 8-10 hours 5 days a week this time...
100 dollars a day
....(heavy russian sounding accent "yuo du not VVORK HHHARD ENOUGH i tsink you are worth maybeh 9 dollars an hour, NOT 12 AN HOUR... until you VORK HARD ENOUGH AND GET IT DONE FAST
RRRRABOTA RABOTA (means work in ukranian apperantly) I WILL PAY Yu 9 AN HOUR
I pull apart, then weld all the crashed parts of a seriously junky trailer. ALLL for the next week and he goes AND DOESNT PAY ME
HIS FAMILY MADE ME "SLAVA UKRAINI" WITH THEM
He made me weld with gloves that had the tips of fingers almost completely worn off, it HURT to work there.
FRICK UKRAINE THE UKRANIANS DIDNT PAY ME
they owe me 1500 dollars
THIS IS THE KINDA JOBS THAT ARE OPEN
Next time someone fricks me over theyll get an ass whopping idgaf anymore
Oh pic is my prettiest weld visible, i took this picture pretty late at night and was falling asleep while painting. Sorry for bad quality i forgot to take weld pics
...he didn't pay at all damn he owes me like 1500 at least
you are my hero anon. we need more workers like you. i would do anything to have a good worker like you.
whenever you feel down, remember that atleast you are helping your boss and your boss's boss have a nice comfy life
our greatest economic system yet wasnt built in a day so keep up the good grind
Are you the welding mask anon? That's like finding a rare Pokemon here.
Nice to see you man, don't let some butthole boss keep you down, life still got a lot going for you I believe It.
>NEET has finally gone mainstream
God help us all
NEET was always mainstream, moron.
>despite employers being desperate to fill roles
maybe those employers should actually offer pay and conditions that people actually want then.
they're not "desperate", they just want people to clamour to work for their dogshit instead of having to adapt to the market
it's also a lie, they're not desperate anyway they advertise hiring in order to placate current employees they're overworking and underpaying, but they don't actually want to hire because overworking and underpaying fewer staff is more beneficial for their bottom line
Bro, I literally don't give a shit about pay. Give me $25/hour for high-skilled work I don't give a shit.
JUST FRICKING HIRE MEEEE AAAAAAAA
>Bro, I literally don't give a shit about pay. Give me $25/hour for high-skilled work I don't give a shit.
But they won't dumbass, they do not want to, they want to give you as close to half of that as they're legally allowed to do.
But they don't even offer that. I can't even get internships paid at the same rate as our jannies despite professional experience and creds. If they at least gave me 10/hour I could at least claim experience on that.
Not only is it exactly this, even if you do have the creds they still reject without even an interview after they make you go through 2h filling out endless forms manually, just manually inputting the shit already in your resume.
>they make you go through 2h filling out endless forms manually, just manually inputting the shit already in your resume.
God I FRICKING HATE that. Frick this world. If only I had the experience, connections and know how to start my own bussiness without it being a total scam.
I'm very close to taking the pajeet scammer and criminal pill.
Mostly you need the connection and financial stability. You don't really need the knowledge, but you need to somehow convince VCs to pay you, and someone to work for/"with" you. It's extremely common for companies to be founded by one incompetent "pajeet scammer"-tier motherfricker and one asperger who'll be named CTO and handle 100% of the tech because it turns out you don't need much to scam other companies to pay you, especially if you have a real product because your pocket sperg is, well, a sperg.
I need the knowledge at least of the industry. I literally have 0 knowledge of how any business operates so I can't even try to sell businesses printing machines for example.
You can get more than enough of this exact knowledge by starting now, you'll be ready in a month top.
Step 1: read some books. The best single book I can think off is "the new business road test", but be aware that lean startup methodologies remain very much en vogue.
Step 2: start discovery sequences. Literally cold call random VPs and ask them if they have a minute for you to pick their brain. Ask what they're doing, what pain points they're facing, etc.
RECORD EVERYTHING, this is the important part. You want to take notes (or literally record if allowed in your state) everything they say (then auto-transcribe) so you can figure out what edge you may have.
Step 3: formulate an idea and plan based on this information.
But step 0 is to register your company right now. Also you are allowed to pivot anytime. Turns out there's no edge in business printing machines? Go try SaaS software. That doesn't work? How about starting a CRO. Still the same company with the same name, but just pivoting around until you find an edge. This is "lean startup".
>But step 0 is to register your company right now. Also you are allowed to pivot anytime.
>but just pivoting around until you find an edge. This is "lean startup".
Thanks anon, never heard of that before.
most of the time its overtime laws. people who dont work think paid overtime is great so they vote for it. in reality the few extra hours are just not worth the money you get considering taxes. nobody is willing to go from 8 to 10 hours a day just for 300$ extra per month. the extra 2 hours are brutal, especially when most of those jobs have 6 day weeks. and this is only when paid overtime works as intended. there is way too much exploitation going on. bosses doing the pity shit, acting like a friend and you end up working an hour extra a day unpaid. sometimes you dont even realize it especially when you are younger. game over when you are dependent on the job in any way (if you are still in training or in school and need the job to pass, yes that is a thing)
its not surprising the only places that are not like this are where everyone wants to work at.
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Your post says two contradictory things. You point out how fricked up unpaid forced overtime is and then claim the problem is overtime pay laws.
they are not contradicting. overtime is a problem and the laws enable them more than they restrict. 60 hour work weeks have become normal for basic as frick jobs when overtime should be a rare exception.
Overtime pay sure as hell isn't causing overtime. Overtime is also exceedingly something in salaried positions where there's no extra pay.
>acting like a friend and you end up working an hour extra a day unpaid
Do wagies really? ahahahhahaha. I would tell my boss to get fricked if he tried that with me.
No pussy no work, it's that simple
>employers being desperate to fill roles
Uh-huh. Then you look at their requirements:
>Entry level
>10 years exp. required with B.A.
Damn, you gays are mostly exaggerating for memes, right?
After I graduated college in the late 2000s I just applied to 10 jobs, went to 3 interviews, took a laid back data entry position, and then learned programming on the job and got promoted to being an automation developer. All I ever had was a bachelor's degree in interdisciplinary studies (nothing technical).
Did things really change that much in a few years? The job market at the time I was applying was supposed to be really bad too because of the subprime mortgage collapse.
Things are much different today, gramps. You have to be extremely talented and lucky to get a good paying job today.
Most jobs don't even pay living wages today
>talented
I wish. The word you're looking for is "connected".
No, it's legitimately that bad right now, at least in some sectors like tech. You can check e.g. /twg/ if you enjoy that kind of shit.
The job market for tech was almost as bad in 2008 (now it's the worst it's ever been since tech jobs have been a thing). Of course it's going to improve, but it will never be like in the late 2000s (basically the best time to get a tech job, failing right around covid with the gibs if you don't mind being laid off immediately after being hired, or right before y2k likewise).
You sound like a normalgay. I find it hard to believe you actually found a job via the internet from strangers even 10 years ago.
Yeah this. Even 10 years ago you needed either to be scoped from school, to have connects, or at least 100 applications for an offer. But certainly nothing like today's 500 applications to 1 offer average ratios.
>took a laid back data entry position, then learned programming on the job
Worst larp I've ever seen in my life. This is like saying you learned spanish over the summer working on a farm with mexicans.
It should go without saying that no sane employer is just going to wait around for a moronic new hire to learn a whole new language.
>It should go without saying that no sane employer is just going to wait around for a moronic new hire to learn a whole new language.
it sounds like they were doing data entry work (just entering shit in spreadsheets) though while learning programming on the job, as long as they were still doing what they were hired for that sounds like what companies would want since it means they don't have to pay them for the training separately
why pluralize NEET if it's being used as an adjective to describe these "youngsters" ? did she mean to follow it with a colon?
what jobs? literally what jobs?
i don't know where these jobs supposedly are but i can't find them
i'd rather be dead than work in a factory or fast food so if those are the only options then i will rather die
One day I will have a business and I will only hire neets and disabled people. Death to the normies.
Why don't you register your business today?
Because I am a NEET myself. I need a job to get money to solve my problems and become independent. When I get experience I will be able to have my own business. My dream is to open a school with some alternative values and systems, I also want to learn sewing and design, psychology, open a bathouse, build houses and communities, make a multi platform software, write a novel and other ideas. I obiously know this is just daydreaming, but these are my actual goals. I want to build an empire.
The only way you can achieve something is to take the first step. If you don't know what the first step is, it means you have to jot down a roadmap. Just because you registered a business doesn't mean you have to operate it either.
That's a sitcom I'd watch.
10 years ago you could apply to about 50 job searches online and you'd KNOW at least 4 or 5 would call you in for an interview, and at least one of them would hire you. its insane how bad things have gotten. i spent nearly all of 2023 unemployed and it took me a ridiculous amount of applications and interviews to get hired, i actually lost count. shit is fricked. too many indians/venezuelans/colombians applying to all the jobs with phony diplomas and no one is doing anything about it.
it's hard to blame employers when they are guaranteed being swamped with millions of applications from ranjeep and rajhmanjhan
things need to shift back to more irl
hiring should take place in real places like it used to with fairs and people who are paid to interview you and filter you through to where you need to go with incentives themselves to do it properly
it was a solved problem for a long fricking time but everyone thought they were so smart moving online until then the third world got involved
Pretty trivial for them to block poo applicants, for example.
>b-but muh racysis
OK then just ban all their schools, that's not racist anymore then.
businesses have no incentive to fix anything because the current situation benefits them.
when you have 1000s of people applying you know you can demand more from your employees and pay them less and they won't complain
no pussy
no work
until you give me a cute virgin innocent teen wife
i will not work
its that simple
until then i will actively leech off the system as much as possible
sorry not sorry
mass immigration isn't just a problem for the unskilled, it's fricking up qualified positions too.
there was a scandal in a hospital in my area around this time last year, a Venezuelan refugee managed to get hired with a fake degree and worked at the ER, he gave all his patients ibuprofen because he didnt know how to treat them, eventually a girl with a fissured cranium showed up and he sent her home with some aspirin, she died a few days later, he was arrested and jailed
i try to explain to my coworkers that we aren't responsible for whatever goals our retail managers give us. our job is to keep up a decent pace and try to get done what we're told, but some people feel like their lives depend on reaching a percentage. we are desperately underemployed, so it's the fault of the managers. i've been at my job for a year and haven't answered a single call either. FRICK EM
Because they don't pay you enough to live on and they treat you like dogshit. They do not give a frick about your availability. They do not give a frick about your wellbeing and safety. They do not give a frick about your quality of life. Anymore, nobody even registers their employees as human people who have families and get sick and pay rent. If that's not a good enough reason for you to lose any sense of "loyalty" to your employer, then you're a fatherless cuck.
pic rel is from uk.
Im a late gen x boomer here immigrated as infant to 1st world country. Truth be told this entire world has been in a death spiral for quite some time now, slowly boiling the frog.
Its gotten to the point where its not even viable to be working as soaring rents and cost of living has outpaced entry level wages/jobs (this is where the majority of the population live on - and obviously full of young people today).
Employers have cut hours so thin that everything is running on a skeleton crew and the people currently employed are doing the job of 2-3 people for lower wage from the previous 10-20 years back. So if you get that rare shit job prepare yourself for pain with massively reduced buying power from your labor.
You can calculate the cost of buying a home with the offered wage/salary and find out that its impossible to do it on your own without help. Forget about pairing up with a partner with modern dating situation as everyone hates each other thanks to social media addiction.
Add the insane global immigration to this mess and its easy to see why young people do not want to work anymore. There is no light at the end of the tunnel. The "i got mine so frick you" mentality is alive and thriving. My parents would never admit to this But from working out their pay and rents, we would have been living the ghettos and begging for scraps if done the same today.
>late gen x
You're in your mid 40s?
Late gen x is mid-late 50s
Radical feminist Valerie Solanas puts it best. The only reason people work 40 hours a week instead of 3 hours a week is because men do crazy shit for pussy.
Videogames, the internet, streaming servicies, delivery food... all is focused on keeping people inside their houses and doing nothing, just sitting in front of a screen and eating. If you are raised in that type of society it's not a surprise that people are getting lazier.
Day of the pillow can't come soon enough, dumb boomer shit.
>Come on anon
>Come work some low level job that will enrich ~~*someone else*~~
>And it doesn't matter that we need you to participate in a grossly unfair system
>you NEED to participate anon
Are you aware that is how humanity has worked since basically always?
No? Until the industrial revolution, the system was widely fair.
Describe me how was work before the industrial revolution.
About 20 hours of work a week on average with significant amounts of festivals. Free to do whatever during work periods, no micromanagement except under apprenticeships. Multiple yearly international vacations for peasants, including serfs. Ability to buy your freedom or even be granted titles through work, expertise or service rendered. Virtually all career paths valid due to extremely low cost of life. Generally very high quality of life with top tier food products and high meat variety and amount in peasant diets, high leasure time, great work/life balance, etc.
In wide swathes of history before the middle ages, also 'modern amenities' like running water, proper sewage, worker protection, etc. on top of all that.
Another worthy mention: extremely low tax rates, generally no higher than 10%, sometimes as low as 0%.
very romanticized and a sweeping generalisation of both an epoch and any society but i agree things were easier before if only because there were less people and so many untapped resources so being someone willing to do anything was valuable - there was always stuff to do
anyone could go and gather wood and people wanted it and anyone could make that wood into furniture which people also wanted
most people spent their lives farming and taking it easy, true
however there were untouchables and bad places and parts of society as well as cruel exploitations by thugs
most people in places like england were free men anyway
>and a sweeping generalisation of both an epoch and any society
Well yes, there wasn't much choice here. I'm not writing down a thesis within an anonymous comment on IQfy. The basic idea remains the same across the board, though, with obvious variances like tax rate typically being much lower in brittain than in mainland europe and such.
>very romanticized
Not really, no.
Some details brushed over for brievety and because they can be equivalenced in modern conditions but that's about it. The most salient one is that this 20h figure is really 10h workdays half the year rather than 20h every day the whole year.
So basically you think the people beefore the industrial revolution lived like the hobbits in their sheer just drinking beer and chilling smoking pipes and having fun.
They did wtf else do you think they were doing? Unless you lived in a lawless war torn shithole that's what life was like. Places like England were very peaceful with effective law enforcement and most people enjoyed a liberal and simple life. I'm sure if you were in Serbia or somewhere you had to deal with constant bandits and wars but that wasn't true everywhere.
What do you think about this graph?
This is caused by live births mostly happening at home in unsanitized environment. There are two aspects I want to make very clear:
- This is an artifact of high death rates at birth
- Which is not due to lack of hygiene knowledge, or bad medicine knowledge, but rather the location/conditions the common folk were giving birth in due to things like distance and time constraints
So that was worse back then. Now we lived double the time.
There is 0 difference in old age age expectancy before and now though. Literally 0. It's been historically stable since the beginning of known historical records.
But yes, transportation has vastly improved, as has construction density.
only if you don't count getting an infection or disease as "age"
sure if you never contracted anything life expectancy hasn't changed in fact it could be argued to have dropped from very strictly natural causes because of modern diets and lack of exercise but that is disingenuous
the reality is things like simple staph bacteremia was once very difficult to cure but is now effectively treated with penicillin
heck take the bubonic plague as an extreme example
i really think that you can still argue life is worse - there is more to life than simply being alive
>only if you don't count getting an infection or disease as "age"
Yes.
>the reality is things like simple staph bacteremia was once very difficult to cure but is now effectively treated with penicillin
Wrong.
>heck take the bubonic plague as an extreme example
>>>heck
lmao zoomzoom
Anyway that was only a problem because the doctors kept purposely infecting patients to prevent their cashcown from ending unironically. It's a well known historical fact.
But to be clear, it is true that it was easier to die back then. Illness wasn't as much a problem as the unclean environments made infections more hazardous, famines were more common due to lesser scales of operations, and wars broke out more often (real ones, not for-entertainment ones like nowadays in modern societies). So I agree with the premise that "everything was better" is bogus or whatever.
But in similar vein as your comment on the topic, risks typically came with opportunities. With war you could upgrade your station in life by volunteering. Unlike what propaganda says, drafting was rare (who would want to pit untrained, ungeared peasants against armored knights who will probably riot over the draft if you try to walk them down 2 miles?). Survivors of plagues found a ripe job market, very much like if we enjoyed total boomer death today.
Nowadays we have risks without opportunities.
i agree with most of what you're saying but you're outright wrong about medicine and the life expectancy chart proves it
your comment about the plague is utterly baffling however you're right that its aftermath did leave a very good job market and certainly elevated the position of the middle and lower classes in society
you're completely right about war in fact untrained unequipped bodies were less than useless since they still presented a logistical burden while offering absolutely nothing in combat
the whole reason for a warrior class was because of this and the death of the warrior class due to industrialisation and mechanisation was because anyone can shoot a gun to some extent and armour isn't really necessary nor are mounts and their associated burdens
you seriously know nothing about medicine if you think that herbal remedies and stuff even approach what we have today
yes, the ancients recognised things like tea tree and rosemary as curative but they are not nearly fluoroquinolones
many modern diseases are much more dangerous than their ancient counterparts as a consequence of their own evolution from the pressures we have applies but none the less our medicines work
>if you think that herbal remedies and stuff even approach what we have today
Honey is still scienficially recognized as the most effective cold remedy. Every medicine based on forward pharmaco methods is literlaly just a concentrated version of a traditional remedy. Things like leeches are still state of the art to this day in some cases in modern operating theaters. Penicilin is made by literally just letting your bread rot. Do you think you need bizarre advanced techniques to make penicilin? Of course penicilin's discovery is new, but tthat's not the point.
The point is that the more you learn about medicine (such as, like, getting a degree in it, or something!) the more you learn how UNadvanced it all is and how we're really barely ahead of where we were in the middle ages. it's lack of knowledge of medicine that clouds your vision on the subject.
Maybe I should further specify, though: I am also not saying the plague was bad, but I'm likening it to any other similar modern epidemic: it takes time to find a treatment. The problem is that, as many contemporary records show (usually leading to doctors being put to death), doctors preferred reinfecting patients to keep the plague going instead.
Another point to demonstrate that it really wasn't that bad: communities and groups that practiced better hygiene were practically unaffected by it and many communes scapegoated them as a result ("well poisoning" claims come to mind).
The life expectancy charts don't prove anything, though, they include everything including war, famine, and negligence.
>the more you learn how UNadvanced it all is and how we're really barely ahead of where we were in the middle age
I feel this way with a lot of things. Society is *built on the back of nooticers in the end.
Control for child mortality which was always the plurality of deaths if not majority.
Also I don't care. Whoa we have gotten s good at industrially manufacturing lives! Those lives fricking suck. Who cares if you can live to be 200 living in a shoebox on the 67th floor of commieblock#2825 eating your pork flavoured Reconstituted McFood Product No.5 watching personally tailored ai generated cartoons which never challenge you whatsoever? What is the point in that?
I would rather live to be 45 and spend my life building my and my family's home and cultivating our land into something precious surrounded by people I feel are my kindred and who share that feeling when we all go and worship our god together who is good and kind and tells us to love one another and be merry.
Yeah, I do like antibiotics and yeah I'm on a computer right now but life is desaturated and stolid now where once it was vibrant and energised.
Antibiotics have existed since at least ancient egypt and ancient china. Although germ theory is new, observing cause and effect is not, and identifying antimicrobial agents is ancient stuff.
Wrong, most peasants took 3-4 yearly vacations.
>most peasants took 3-4 yearly vacations.
this really is not true most peasants did not travel that far certainly not overseas and i don't know why you think they did
in no small part because they didn't need to, didn't know anyone who had, weren't sure what it would cost, and didn't really care to
other classes like merchants and warriors were constantly on the road but these are exactly not peasants
So this is what it's like, huh. To observe how a golem starts waking up. How he discoveres that shlomo goldstein's lies about modern civilization being better and easier is mere fiction.
Interesting.
you realize that your graph doesn't predate proto industrialization or the inclosure acts anyway
Health care improved and babies no longer die from diarrhea.
They pretty much were unironically yes. They had so much time on their hand they'd volunteer it to help build churches and such just for fun.
>Multiple yearly international vacations for peasants
No, most people never left their village.
that was their choice unless they were serfs and even then nobody was keeping track of them and people had no social security numbers or passports etc so who would ever even find out? most people never wanted to leave their village because they were happy bumming around, drinking, fricking their wives, eating the food they grew, and just living life as they were supposed to
i think anon meant the vacation days were transnational and he is right since they were religiously defined
i will note that many random totally impoverished peasants went on pilgrimages where they would beg and work along the road to sustain themselves
>20 hour work week
LMAO. Whenever you hear 95% of people worked in agriculture or whatever that does not mean 20 hour work week or whatever. What it actually meant was 70 hour work week during harvest season, and then the rest of the year you do various hard chores, like fixing your stuff yourself, chopping wood, building, cleaning, cooking(which was significantly harder then today), taking care of animals and so on. Job titles being more fluid then today where you study specially designed curriculum for 5 years about how to be an expert in cork shaping or whatever and then go every week 9 to 5 throughout the whole year no matter what.
Who made you so dumb? Was it your parents or yourself?
?,
is objectively correct.
Hey wagecucks,
Go frick yourself.
Sincerely,
NeetCHADS
Because they don't pay me enough to care. I live in South Korea and my work life balance is better than it was in USA. I get paid better + work less hours + I have more purchasing power here vs an American salary. When the time comes back , I'm just not gonna work . There's no real incentive to.
Shouldn't you wagecucks be in bed by now? You got a long week of slavery tomorrow. You need to rest up or your performance will deteriorate.
I'm off tomorrow 😀
you people saying you cant find work and here i am wanting to quit my remote job to do door dash just so that i can have more time to learn new skills
give it me unironically not joking 100% serious
i want a remote job so i can earn money and travel but idk how to get one
i can program i just have never done it professionally so i can't demonstrate that really
No, give it to ME! I have 2 years exp and 3 degrees in that shit and I can't even get a fricking fully in-person junior role at the moment.
clearly you are insufferable and intolerable to be so qualified and yet unable to find work
And of course they can tell that without interviewing me or asking my managers or colleagues (who constantly praise me on those specific fronts unprompted by the way). Can't be the absolute state of the market or anything, must be little old me.
Die boomer die.
I don't make much (17.35/hr) but I don't talk on the phones and was given a company laptop. I'd say it's the best company I've ever worked for in my life and the CEO is based.
But I just wish I was doing a job that I truly love. Anyway I'm only feeling like quitting because my new role with a different client is waaaay to much for dog shit pay. I was on the verge of getting laid off (I was previously working for Nextdoor for 1.5 years) but got offered another gig with a different client. But I gave it some thought and realized I doubt they're going to force me to perform like a king on my first week. I should just use the opportunity the first week to read the internal documents and I'll get the hang of my job in no time.
If you're on IT, one high effort application a day, apply on the company's website or e-mail, forget about job aggregators. The pay will most likely be shit, but in 3 months tops you will have a job.
I do 5 high effort applications and 10-15 low effort ones. There almost never is a company email. I apply via the company website, but using the link that linkedin provides. Maybe I should strip it so it looks like I'm not coming from linkedin.
I think everyone's forgotten about picrel
>stop hiring white people
>where have all the applicants gone?
Pottery.
>wtf why is our new Pajeet-made software causing our planes to nosedive into the ocean and why are panels falling off midflight in new planes built by illegals using the cheapest materials possible
~~*Shareholder value*~~ is destroying the world
Are you sure there are Indians involved? That's a serious accusation. Mind your words.
Yes, Boeing is doing the needful
>https://jobs.boeing.com/search-jobs/India/185/2/1269750/22/79/50/2
The majority of these poo in loo openings are in engineering. There are also a few in IT, manufacturing, data, coding and business administration. And these are only the ones physically located in India. God knows how many they're filling in America with H1B Pajeets so they can save a few bucks not paying Americans.
Pay the price for me time, son.
they aren't desperate enough, can be seen on the salaries
>Be NEET
>Wake up whenever you want
>Maybe help your family a bit if you're a hikkimori but aside from that you can spend your time how you like
>Have a waifu that loves you
>Go to sleep whenever you want
>Become a wagie for some reason
>Have to wake up in the middle of the night to commute to your job
>Have mr Manager yell at you for being 0,000001 seconds late
>Have middle managment force you and your team to do the wagie wiggle to entertain the overlords
>Break your back for 8 hours just to be able to barely get by, remember to smile when you greet the customer!
>Get back home knowing the cycle will repeat tomorrow
>Have no gf/a roastie as your gf that doesn't love you and drains the little money that you have (you can't have sex with her KEK)
>Have to force yourself to sleep earlier/take sleeping pills so you aren't too exhausted the next day.
>Roastie gf fricks a Black person because "you don't have any time for her"
I wonder.
The pay and conditions have become third world tier, but welfare and general society have not.
t. Old man
Once all you zoomers are living in tents and searching shop bins for food, you WILL take the job.
Doubtful, most gen Z commit suicide before then
i just want to work in a place with cool chill people
not midwit normies who think they're important
I'm only willing to work somewhere I enjoy that utilizes my skills and talents. Until they're willing to fund my creative career they can lick cheese
Because that's what your country needs, millions of artists lol.
Giving people choices was a mistake. Everyone should be forced into whatever trades need workers the moment they graduate high school.
I don't disagree that a lot of people in art would be better suited somewhere else
That's not the point though. We no longer have any stake on society's success so what do we care what society needs?
Not having a gf isn't the end of the world. Just watch TV or something instead in your free time.
How does buying property let you never work again? Are you going to buy a farm? Even the people who write about being "freegans" and living off the grid still almost always do something to earn a little money like selling canned produce.
Congrats on being 12 this year but you must be 18 or older to browse this site.
37 thoughbeit. I don't have a gf right now and it didn't cause me to give up on my career.
Come back when you're allowed to post here, which will be in 6 years.
Here's my work security badge, my driver's license, and my first health insurance card from 2010 when I started working.
Wow, how did you manage to become so zoomerbrained even as a kid? And why do you lap up propaganda like zoomers do despite not being a zoomer? Were you born reta-
>shitskin
Of course you were. My condolences.
>shitskin
Just tan. My mom's family is German and my dad's family is Romanian.
>romanian
Scamming people isnt a career gypsy scum.
Yippee! My daily psyop thread has arrived!
I work and have been for a few years but I get it. I am aggressively saving money to buy some property and frick off so I can never work again. Society's social contract has been completely smashed. There is no incentive for most people to work hard. You work hard and overperform and you just get more work and more shit to do for the same pay. Frick that.
Or you get fired because the manager thinks you're a threat to his position
Very true. Another shitty aspect to working is incompetent or hostile management. Another adult telling me what to do and how to act pisses me off.
I'm going to live off of passive investments and keep my overhead low through owning property outright.
I applied to work for a factory in my city i had to take 3 intervews and they didn't even hire me.
It's a literal wagie job with shit pay where you need no experience and somehow they need to do 3 intervews to decide wheter to hire or not
>I applied to work for a factory in my city
I did that a few times.
One of the became my most memorable interview ever.
>Get called into the office.
> Good afternoon Mr. anon.
> Good afternoon.
> *looks at my C.V.*
> *looks at me*
> You don't really want to work here, do you?
> Excuse me?
> You have experience in IT (I used to do tech support for a couple of businesses owned by acquaintances) and all that, you don't want to work in a factory.
> From here on I pretty much just went "Well, it's a job and I can't find anything better, so...". and the interview ended not 5 minutes later.
To this day I still think it's surreal.
Besides the IT stuff I had experience in construction, cleaning (had a job cleaning buses, interiors and exteriors), seasonal jobs (fruit picking, etc.) and in a restaurant (kitchen). It was pretty clear I'm the sort of guy who does whatever comes along, but somehow pressure washing clay off containers in some pottery factory was too much for me.
It's a common trend: they don't want to hire you because "they're worried" you'll quit when something better comes along. Instead they'll hire meth heads who won't even show up on day 1 but hey, at least they won't quit because something better came along!!!
You can answer something like "Well, it's a job and I can't find anything better, so..." but this requires very good public speaking skills to pull off. For example you can't stop there, you have to point out to all the positions you have held that aren't IT, say that you work hard and are punctual no matter what job you do, minimize the extent of your IT experience, mention that you have engagement that will prevent you from leaving for at least 6 months to a year, etc.
The safer approach is to say that you absolutely do want to work here: you tried IT but it wasn't for you, you were much happier with the other jobs you held. That kind of nonsense.
Welcome to the "overqualified" hell, anon, enjoy your stay.
You don't have to put everything on your resume. You can have multiple resumes, too e.g. a tech one vs. a manual labor one.
Yeah, I have 18 variants of my resume and 43 different cover letter templates I use.
Still shit.
That's too many. Of course they're all going to be shit.
Just focus on one or two.
They're all painstakingly customized for very specific profiles and fully optimized. It took me months to do the whole thing, specifically because 1-2 doesn't do the trick. So I start with 1. Doesn't work. Optimze it. Doesn't work. Go with 2. Optimize 2nd. Doesn't work. 3. And so on.
Professional resume services, recruiters, advisers, doesn't matter. They all just say everything's perfect and I'm guaranteed a job in 5 days in their opinion. I get rejected before I get an interview instead.
>They're all painstakingly customized for very specific profiles and fully optimized.
Chris-chan has made hundreds of drawings of Sonichu, and none of them are good. He thinks they are.
Stop being like this.
You can project all you like but just know it's not healthy.
I have one resume that eats other resumes' lunch. I make six figures and I shitpost all day. Eat my ass.
>It's a common trend: they don't want to hire you because "they're worried" you'll quit when something better comes along.
Yeah, I know that now. Then again, I should have known back then.
Funny thing is I know the person they hired for the job, well, at least for the same position, two months later. She left after 3 months or so.
>You can have multiple resumes, too e.g. a tech one vs. a manual labor one.
I'll be honest, I never understood how the hell that works.
Don't you end up with gaps in the C.V. if you do that? And aren't gaps really frowned upon?
Or do you just invent bullshit to pad the gaps?
There are ways to sew up gaps, like omitting months from dates or cutting jobs from before a gap from a resume. Or you can explain it as "training."
Here's where you fumbled it.
>From here on I pretty much just went
>I didn't find that kind of work very satisfying. Just sitting in an office fixing the same technical problems over and over was mind numbing. I prefer to work hands-on and feel like I'm really contributing to making something tangible. I didn't apply here just out of needing a job, I want to pivot my career in this direction and I could see a real future with this company. Longer term I'm looking into [relevant certifications/trade training] to develop my skills in this field.
Even if you're stone cold lying and would dump them instantly for another comfy "reinstall adobe acrobat" job, they don't need to know that.
Pushed to be criminals by police nad the snitches. No time to work.
>Desperate
Yet they still turn away all applicants
This. I've literally been described as a unicorn to my face by my managers every time I've worked somewhere yet can't even get an interview the vast majority of the time. I know it's not my resume either.
>I've literally been described as a unicorn to my face by my managers
They're lieing to you
Very unlikely given my work performance, KPIs, and the aftermath of my leaving. I have a very specialized skillset and I'm extremely good at what I do, while also having a breadth of other skills that nobody expects at the time they hire me.
I work as a software engineer. While I was looking for a job out of college I applied to a grocery store. I literally got rejected by a phone call as I was walking in the parking lot after the interview. The job market is bullshit.
If you told them you just graduated they knew you would keep looking for something in your field and want to leave for a new job ASAP. You have to lie and omit stuff like that if you're forced to apply for jobs below your level, otherwise you get filtered for being over-qualified.
If it's a job for losers and tards and convicts you have to convince them you're a loser/tard/convict in it for the long haul because no manager likes dealing with rapid turnover. Obviously this doesn't apply to you anymore since you found a way better job but never know who is lurking. Maybe this advice will help somebody out who is in your past situation.
We grew up hearing "you can be anything!" from our middle-aged white female teachers. We cannot even imagine working shitty jobs now, even though the workforce distribution will never work like that.
We need to start singling out low IQ children and prepare them for tradie jobs.
>We need to start singling out low IQ children and prepare them for tradie jobs.
If they are low IQ they won't be able to do tradie jobs barring working for a relative.
By low IQ, I'm referring to 100-115. Only those above 115 should enroll in higher education, as was customary in the past.
>Employer:
Mcdonalds 40 miles away paying half the minimum wage, also, requires at least masters in computer science and 5 years experience in web development for grilling burger.
Again it's a simple choice:
>work like dog and be desperately poor with no future
>get on the dole and be desperately poor with no future but not go to bed every not exhausted wishing you were dead
obvious choice for me
>"You need a Ph.D. and X years of experience for this minimum wage job"
I graduated a decade ago and I can't tell you how many times I saw entry level positions expecting 3-5 years of professional experience PLUS a degree. Somewhere along the line all of these places forgot that education was supposed to be a substitute for experience until you could actually get hired and earn that experience. I wound up in my current job completely by happenstance and my degree had frick all to do with it anyway. I honestly don't blame zoomers for not giving a frick about working. The system was rigged against them since they were in kindergarten.
All the graduates who struggle to find a job should aim for public teacher positions.
You don't have the mentality or capabilities to do normie grind, just give up and embrace the comfort of teaching.
Over here you have to get a teaching cert to become a teacher. Also you get paid just above what mcdonald's pays.
In burgerland it depends on the state and how desperate they are for teachers. My state has shit pay for teachers and is very desperate for more so we have low standards. You can be a substitute with just a community college diploma. You can get a permanent teaching job with any bachelor degree. They'll pay you more if you are teaching a subject that matches your major (English major teaching English, math major teaching math etc), if you have an education degree or if you have certain teaching-related certificates.
t. considered doing teaching and talked to a teacher friend about how it works but fortunately found something better
I have violent tendencies kek. i probably would lose my shit if a kid started shittesting me
Might be cool if you could actually survive on that shit.
There's a reason teaching is full of women. They're typically married to a man who earns real money to live off while her teaching salary is just supplemental income. Also like most government jobs the lucrative part is the early retirement age, pension and insurance benefits.
Also the fact that they now perversely pay more than private industry jobs.
I have been applying for all kinds of positions. Call centers, supermarket shelf stocking, receptionist, cleaner, and many more. Almost nobody ever had gotten to me and I live in 350k town people. Tomorrow I have an interview for a baby car seat seller position. What the frick is even that? That is not a career I had imagined but I will still try my best to get it because I need money to get pussy and pussy is what will make me happy and not make me want to kill myself every day. I'm a jobless loser that has not done anything with his life because I've been lied to about opportunities in this God forsaken world. I WANT TO FRICKING KILL ALL israeliteS AND THEN MYSELF!
read/listen to Collapse of Complex Societies by Tainter
It's not that hard you homosexuals jesus christ. Just apply somewhere online, then go there in person (this is inportant), tell them you already put in application, get job offer. Work up experience and move up in the world. College not necessary it is a waste of money and probably 4 or so years of work experience. Also stay away from any tech jobs.
At my current job all the sales bros, technicians, managers alike are all mostly in their 20s making 6 figures and own houses. It is a meme pushed by the people in power that zoomers don't work or own a home to demotivate a specific group of people (you).
Anyone ever notice that todays labour market is basically like a mirror of the dating market? Like Employer Stacys just want Employee Chad. You need a chisled resume line, a 6+ feet of industry experience, a long, thick list of projects you coded for (every stem thingy wants you to know how to code), hunter eyes, etc.
It's a bad time for guys out there. Every girl has 100s of replaceable guys in her DMs and every employer has 100s of CVs being thrown at them. You need to be double Chad to have the same chance some pot bellied boomer had when he was fresh out of high school.
This is 100% true, dating and employment are eerily similar. It's disorienting. One good thing though is that the dance with employers is a little bit less complex. With women you want to be attentive but also distant enough and not too clingy etc etc etc but with employers, open fricking simping works. Talk at length about how excited you are to talk with them. You love the industry, you love what they do, it would be your dream job, etc. Double text them. All that shit.
I see what you're saying, to a point. Enthusiasm still seems to be welcome but HR Stacy will get the ick if you seem too desperate to get the job. Like, does this like um loser not have like tons of other options? What kind of guy is he if he can't get and keep any job he wants? Ew, red fricking flag. This is starting to become a thing. I can imagine years down the road when redpiller type content is being made telling guys how they have to rizz up the recruiter. To act aloof like you could land any job and it's their privilege for you to work for them because your a big dick Employee Chad who has a decade of industry experience with all the certs and skills.
Well, it is like that if you have a strong resume. You should be distant and cold and let the recruiters beg for your 10 long and thick years of experience, if nothing else this stance lets you negotiate for better pay. If you're looking for entry level and will take whoever will take you though, enthusiasm-maxxing is definitely the way to go.
because working just about any job in this absolutely unfair hellscape called capitalism only makes you closer to suicide
>Big industry constantly requires a reserve army of unemployed workers for times of overproduction. The main purpose of the bourgeois in relation to the worker is, of course, to have the commodity labour as cheaply as possible, which is only possible when the supply of this commodity is as large as possible in relation to the demand for it, i.e., when the overpopulation is the greatest. Overpopulation is therefore in the interest of the bourgeoisie, and it gives the workers good advice which it knows to be impossible to carry out. Since capital only increases when it employs workers, the increase of capital involves an increase of the proletariat, and, as we have seen, according to the nature of the relation of capital and labour, the increase of the proletariat must proceed relatively even faster. The above theory, however, which is also expressed as a law of nature, that population grows faster than the means of subsistence, is the more welcome to the bourgeois as it silences his conscience, makes hard-heartedness into a moral duty and the consequences of society into the consequences of nature, and finally gives him the opportunity to watch the destruction of the proletariat by starvation as calmly as any other natural event without bestirring himself, and, on the other hand, to regard the misery of the proletariat as its own fault and to punish it. To be sure, the proletarian can restrain his natural instinct by reason, and so, by moral supervision, halt the law of nature in its injurious course of development.
leftists are such fricking homosexuals. Just say what you mean, holy shit you're moronic.
>Crazy requirements for trivial stuff that can be learned on the spot
>Underpaid jobs+increasing cost of living
>Poor and toxic work environments
>Jobs being overall soul draining
I wonder...
requirements for trivial stuff that can be learned on the spot
This is what I notice the most. A lot of white collar work in sales, marketing etc can easily be learned within 3 months, but these job ads ask for a Master's or whatever.
I'm sure it's another HR filter for something. Publish ads for some bureaucratic reason (like government funding), then make sure nobody actually gets hired, and so on.
It's so widespread now.
I think the ultimate filter is probably applying. The true test is that anybody who uploads their resume to one of these ads is clearly a clueless moron with no connections.
Thus, to obtain a job you must never apply anywhere.
It's mostly because the people who create job ads aren't the same as the people actually familiar with the jobs.
Although also you need to filter people somehow without talking to a million applicants individually and requiring degrees and experience is the easiest way to do that.
>jobs employers are begging for them to take
I see no fricking invitation anywhere
The social contract was still working in the 90s. Even in the early 2000s, though diminished.
Women still went to parks, cafes. They had to meet people in real life, with real expectations. There was no way to find 10/10 chads within a couple clicks.
The economy sucked (at the time) but things still felt okay. People looked forward, thought things would get better.
Kids played in fields, in their lawns. They played outside, with the neighbors. These are all largely things that do not happen anywhere near the scale that they used to. A very large amount of zoomers grew up with limited amounts of social engagement than any generation before them. The isolation was only worsened by the internet.
The system is broke. It doesn't work anymore. There's nothing left to work for.
It will never go back to the way it was. The charade of meaning is over. Colours and shapes on a screen can provide immediate satisfaction that trumps any kind of engagement you could get out of the real world in the short term. The only way out is to be part of a society that rejects this or to wait for tptb to limit it via censorship.
for many, there are no professional jobs available. jobs that people actually want to do. jobs that reward you with purpose and wealth.
most jobs that are available are more akin to slave labour. jobs that no one enjoys (no one sane that is), jobs that sap all your energy and motivation, jobs that leave you physically and mentally exhausted, jobs that do very little to make you feel rewarded and leave you with little to no wealth. the only purpose of these jobs is to make corporations more money. these jobs are meant for students as part time work to supply them with a little bit of spending money. these jobs are not meant to be worked full time, but because these jobs comprise of the majority of what is available to people, the reality is that people are forced to work such jobs and live an unfulfilling life, their only other alternative is to become a NEET.