Why would Microsoft invest in and "collaborate" with Ubuntu ?

still not gonna use chrome

95% of office people who operate PCs are too moronic to judge whether or not their desktop is garbage or not.
Do you think MS cares about gaming gays?
What they fear most is when people realize they could all just switch to Linux in 99% of offices and have much less work and expenses in the long run than with MS.
That's another reason they're pushing the integration with all cloud and AI slop, it's to make you trip the sunken cost fallacy.

>The cloud thing is independent of this false Linux "problem"-
It's abuse of their position as the OS provider.
I don't understand how the EU sued MS for integrating IE, but Office, Minecraft and all that other shit now per default in Windows is all ok.
>"y'know what, this linux desktop distro makes my life easier than Windows, I'm going to continue using this".
An office worker turns on their PC and does the same shit everday, as long as the tools are installed and they know how to use it, they don't care.
You are not 95% of office people.

No, it doesn't matter if it's Windows, Mac or Linux, that's the point you're not getting, most likely intentionally, because your ulterior motive is to bait Linuxgays because you're a 14-year-old boy who thinks that's funny.
I'm just trying to stay awake for a few more hours, I wouldn't care to reply normally to the moronicness I must bear witness to.

They wouldn't care if it was Linux, either.
In film and artsy fartsy shit, they use Macs.
Your sentimental attachment to an OS is laughable.
I don't care either.
Windows was okay up until 7 and then Michaelsoft just went all moronic.
Because I don't care, I've switched.
Linux is better now.
Deal with it.

>95% of office workers use Windows because it just werks
They use whatever the admin installs on their system, as if the office staff had a choice in their OS.
Of course you are 14.
My God, kid, go jack off or something.

>Your sentimental attachment to an OS is laughable.
>15 posts and 25 lines of clamoring for a hobbyist desktop os only used by neckbeards and incels because they have too much time on their hands
lol

Takes two to tango, there are even more of you now than there are neckbeards, because most of us are tired of this, we know what we're doing and we know you're starting to see how much Windows actually sucks, and we have nothing to fear, because Linux is so solidified in server space, that our systems will remain pretty much fully customizable and not lambasted by a corporate entity looking to milk you.

So today I'm the designated flamethrower, and I must say, I am quite disappointed, your retorts are basic b***h-ass attempts at mic-drops and about as intellectually stimulating as a piece of toast.

Windows was never great, it just worked most of the time, and that's all we wanted.
Something like Temple OS is great.
Ironic I should be the one to point this out to you.

Right. I'm on LMDE now and everything just works.
Today I downloaded FreeCAD to make technical drawings.
I make PCBs with KiCAD. Both run natively and are one-click installs from the software manager. The only two softwares from Windows I was missing were IrfanView and Notepad++, both of which run good enough in Wine.
That's all I need for work.

I update my system whenever I want to.
Which is often, I'm always happy to get more new free stuff.

Anyways, have fun with Windows.
I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that shit anymore.

Well, it is a bit annoying all the accumulated Windows skill went to waste... but I always knew this day would come or at least I was always aware they might abuse their power and they did.

I started using LibreOffice and other free and open source software well over a decade ago, and when I switched, I basically had the same software suite as before.

An OS is just a tool, when it becomes shit, you move on.
But yes, I am kinda pissed MS let that happen.
It's worse it was fully intentional and not negligence.
Yes, there are hard feelings, won't deny it.

>too low iq to get linux to work
skill issue, skin color issue
post hand, post nose 🙂

I'm sorry your Linux experience was not a pleasant one.
Installing LMDE was downloading the ISO, burning it to a USB stick and then, while it installed, I had been shitposting on IQfy so much, I spent another extra hour on the live USB boot image after the install already finished, because, well... everything just works OOTB.

But you seem to be quite content with Windows, so it shouldn't be a loss to you.

>even lying about it to justify it
Ah, but Windowsgays would never! :^)
My desktop, 2700X and RX580X, worked OOTB, literally had to do nothing for hardware after install.
My laptop required fiddling, because shitty njudea drivers (wouldn't be an issue if Linux was the dominant platform, but oh well).
A friend's PC worked OOTB, but not for games, because he has an R9 390X from the mid-2010s, where there are two drivers, but only the newer one supports Vulkan (required for Wine/Proton/Steam) and you have to actively override driver selection, since only the older one is considered "safe"/not experimental.

But if all you need is a email, browser and YouTube, Linux is faster, easier, free and doesn't bother you with anything.
I especially like it for older people, less tech affine people, because they can't break it.

Same, and that's why I'm fed up with Windows.
Funny how that works.

Is there a way to turn off updates WITHOUT modding?
I never tried and I can't be arsed to find out.
Give me the option, I am a power user.
You could ask me to tick something saying I understand the risks, that's fine.
But they actively hide these things away from me.
So I have no idea how you claim to be a power user on Windows, when that thing is literally made for braindead normies who don't know how to operate PCs.

No such thing, there was only pause for seven days or something.

No, that was genuine Windows 10 Pro.
First installed January 2020.
Never had the option, looked a bit and gave up.
Also, people constantly complain about not being able to turn it off, I think you're being dishonest here.
You need to gpedit.msc to actually turn it off, AFAIK.
This wasn't the case in Windows 7, just click here, click yes i understand the risks and done.
No, I don't need to be babysitted by my OS, thank you.

Never heard of that.
I think you're lying.
Please show me a screenshot.

Because I bought Windows 7 Pro and Ultimate, and I needn't have used gpedit.msc.
In fact, you were supposed to buy the Pro versions of XP/Vista/7, not the home versions, if you are a power user.
And yes, you need to use gpedit.msc, like I said.

Normies should not be disabling updates, that was the entire point of hiding the setting in the first place. If you can't figure out how to change one setting in the group policy editor, you are not a power user and you should stick with Windows S/Home and certainly not Pro/Ultimate/Linux.

I'd pity you if you HAVE to use Windows because XYZ doesn't work on Linux, but you seem to be HAPPY to use Windows, which is completely unfathomable to me or anyone else, for that matter.
Nobody likes Windows, people just accept it (to a certain degree).

>they should just switch to an OS that doesn't respect your time and has a much more limited software support
The former is no longer true and I thought you are a power user.
If you are talking about professional and corporate contexts, you're not seriously suggesting there aren't any qualified personnel for Linux systems administration (or "DevOps" or whatever you kids these days call it) or no suitable software?
Because, again, neither is true.
For the absolute majority of office work, which is what most desktop PCs are doing, ANY OS is sufficient, even fricking FreeBSD.
THESE are the clients MS does not want to lose.
Becky from HR writing memos in Word, where there's no reason she couldn't just be using LibreOffice Writer for it. She doesn't know and she doesn't care. If the icky guy from IT says this is now the Word program, she'll just roll her eyes and say 'whatever' and write that same goddamn memo in LibreOffice Writer and she'll get it done just the same with stupid flowers and decorations and other non-sensical woman bullshit she'll decorate that letter with so that everyone can see she really made an effort for it and deserves just as much appreciation for her work as everybody else!

For frick's sake.

>It is very much still true for just about every distro.
What, Gentoo and Arch? Or using Debian or Ubuntu LTS on PCs with bleeding edge hardware?
Don't go blaming the arms dealer if you buy a knife when you needed a gun.
>Correct
So the part about
>much more limited software support
is a problem for you how?
It's essentially your argument against me (switching to Linux once having to need to use gpedit) in reverse, and just as valid, and therefore shows it's a moot argument, because it is true, if the tinker level is the same, then it IS moot.

>I needed a gun, this is the knife Linux offered me.
>Because I needed a gun, not a knife.
Yeah, well, then you need to find a professional to help you with Linux.
Maybe you are a Windows professional and that is you chose the knife.
Linux also has a gun, but maybe you did not know that.
See, this is why you need a Linux professional to help you install your networks.
He is much more nicer than the Windows professional and his systems work 24/7 on all 52 calendar weeks of the year!
>I don't follow.
See, that wouldn't be a problem if you had a Linux professional to help you 😀

Well, there was LiMux, Linux used in Munich's local government administration, that worked well for a few years, before it was sabotaged by the succeeding mayor of Munich and scrapped.
The German state of Schleswig-Holstein plans to switch 30,000 PCs to Linux, suggesting Linux is mature enough for this task by now.

It was working fine, they were bribed to switch back.

It's unequivocally easier on windows, especially when you get into more advanced stuff like DHCP split scopes and failover, if those even exist on linux. Plus it all integrates nicely when doing stuff like dynamic DNS, because if the Windows server is doing DHCP and active directory, it's easy for it to know the hostname/DNS of devices that get IPs via DHCP.

Linux is great for simple stuff that's already solved like file sharing, web servers, etc. Because it'd be moronic to have to buy a license every time you wanted to spin something up. But when you get to bigger and more complicated stuff, Windows wins again.

For example my company uses sharepoint and so I can access all shared files just over the internet, without having to be on a company VPN and folders and files can easily be shared between organizations. The accounts from their org just have to be brought in via active directory and then they can access whatever we give them access to in sharepoint, there's no need to setup a literal network path from our file server to them. The access over the Internet just like I do.

It worked once, it will work again

Well, there was LiMux, Linux used in Munich's local government administration, that worked well for a few years, before it was sabotaged by the succeeding mayor of Munich and scrapped.
The German state of Schleswig-Holstein plans to switch 30,000 PCs to Linux, suggesting Linux is mature enough for this task by now.

.

Look, I know the whole background story, I even lived in Munich around that timeframe, you're talking out of your ass.
It was not a better product, it's the same product. That's the point. There's nothing better or worse about MS, except its pricetag and its closed source.
The office staff got their work done just as well.
That's the point. There is no difference in product.

That's why it's literally INSANE to
a) pay for it with taxpayer money
b) potentially introduce a trojan horse from a potential foreign adversary into your system

There is literally no argument anymore for governments to NOT switch to Linux in the best interest's of the taxpayer.

You're saying this right after I tell you that it worked.
What more can I do?
I'm arguing from a position of common sense, you have an irrational attachment to some corporate entity. You must be paid or a bot, because the alternative is not in your favor.
There's nothing more to say.
It's bullshit Windows is a better product. You can't make zero better. Zero times one or two remains zero. It doesn't matter what OS you use from a technical standpoint. All that matters is price and safety. MS loses automatically and no argument of technical superiority is worth merit in the context of fricking office administration.

it's about the infrastructure behind it not the desktop itself.
Windows is administered through active directory which uses those GPOs set by administrators to set changes among selected groups of devices. Most organizations these days are also going to be using MS products like sharepoint, teams and exchange to store and distribute those memos.

And to boot, anything that can be done through a GUI on a windows server can also be automated through powershell. So you get both the ease of use of a GUI while still being able to automate everything.

Setup LDAP, DNS and DHCP on a Linux sever and then a Windows one and tell me which one was easier. Similiarly managing dozens of different classes of devices is much easier in Windows than on Linux.
>hurr muh linode and shit
compared to just setting GPOs which Windows supports OOTB.

It's unequivocally easier on windows, especially when you get into more advanced stuff like DHCP split scopes and failover, if those even exist on linux. Plus it all integrates nicely when doing stuff like dynamic DNS, because if the Windows server is doing DHCP and active directory, it's easy for it to know the hostname/DNS of devices that get IPs via DHCP.

Linux is great for simple stuff that's already solved like file sharing, web servers, etc. Because it'd be moronic to have to buy a license every time you wanted to spin something up. But when you get to bigger and more complicated stuff, Windows wins again.

For example my company uses sharepoint and so I can access all shared files just over the internet, without having to be on a company VPN and folders and files can easily be shared between organizations. The accounts from their org just have to be brought in via active directory and then they can access whatever we give them access to in sharepoint, there's no need to setup a literal network path from our file server to them. The access over the Internet just like I do.

>knows about the setting to disable it
>doesn't know how to disable updates
>needs to use gpe
>"needn't have used gpedit"
>I think you're lying about being able to disable updates, prove it
I've never met someone on IQfy that needed meds more than you my friend. May I speak with your handler? How did you even find IQfy if you couldn't figure out a simple setting in Windows?

>I bought Windows Ultimate and I'm too moronic to use gpedit
>Case closed
No, seriously though. Are you well?

although you may have to install if on your system. Probably in a similar way you install IIS and stuff. It's under "Programs and Features" in the control panel off the top of my head

>That's fair.
But anyways, thanks for agreeing with me that

95% of office people who operate PCs are too moronic to judge whether or not their desktop is garbage or not.
Do you think MS cares about gaming gays?
What they fear most is when people realize they could all just switch to Linux in 99% of offices and have much less work and expenses in the long run than with MS.
That's another reason they're pushing the integration with all cloud and AI slop, it's to make you trip the sunken cost fallacy.

>they could all just switch to Linux in 99% of offices,
which is why we were having this lengthy discussion in the first place.
Have a nice evening.

Yeah, you're probably right, imagine having to deal with all of them.
Still, it's a matter of national security, I can't believe my government runs Windows, I'd consider it treason, but we are officially "allied" (i.e. a vassal of) the US.
France and Italy have made steps in the right direction by using LibreOffice for their military.

Come on, bruv, just stop! By your arrows of truth you're ripping apart the underwear of loonixtards bit-by-bit.

Yep, I don't understand why the Linux goons can't get that through their thick skulls.

This is boring.

I use ubuntu you tard