>All assignments must be saved as word documents (.doc or .docx).
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>All assignments must be saved as word documents (.doc or .docx).
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Lucky for you OpenOffice and LibreOffice can export to legacy .doc or modern .docx so this isn't a problem.
>LibreOffice
>docx
nice meme
It literally just works.
I can tell you've never had to use it in any kind of professional setting, whether corporate or educational. Sure, it might work for basic text (though pagination could be fricked), but nothing else.
>I can tell you've never had to use it in any kind of professional setting
Except I have, and if it's complex enough of a document that some elements don't carry over correctly, you can go in and do some tweaking to get things just right. Not hard. I used LibreOffice throughout undergraduate and graduate studies, and at several jobs. I've encountered less than six instances where a professor or employer had an issue with the documents it produced. My graduate studies involved frequent production of multilingual research papers as well (including but not limited to Greek, Hebrew, Arabic, and Devanagari), and not once did I run into an issue.
>you can go in and do some tweaking to get things just right
And that's one reason it's not popular. It's not bug for bug compatible.
Word is just as bad for having to tweak things to get them just right.
>It literally just works
>just do some tweaking bro it literally just works
kek. yeah, I've used LibreOffice to write papers as well -- which I've then saved as .doc, .odt, or .pdf, but if you're going to use it to collaborate with someone on a .docx file you're absolutely fricked, and you're lying if you pretend otherwise.
hi luke
> professional context
Just export to pdf
>It literally just works.
LibreOffice is bad for docx.
It sure as frick does not. That being said, I've used Writer to rescue borked files, but holy shit incompatibility is huge.
>it just works
>with my machine exporting the docx illegally
>no i haven't tested it on a different pc i don't own
>illegally
Hahahahahahahaha have a nice day now
what do you mean illegally?
the docx functionality in LO is completely legal, in fact docx is an open standard
was wondering what was the point of .odt
>Lots of little differences, technically. .docx contains some backwards compatibility stuff to deal with the formats that used to be output by the .doc format, and is therefore (and a couple other reasons) more complex. It also isn't really a standard, as, while there is a standards document for OOXML, which is kind of what .docx uses, the document is pretty unwieldy, and Office has been caught not actually following their own document.
The big difference is that one of them is not under the control of Microsoft, and is much better documented so that more different programs can implement support while inter-operating with other programs. For many practical purposes, this is mostly a philosophical stance.
weird academic rule stating that every single text we share has to be a .docx file
That's what's referred to as the Microsoft Tax (you need to do business with Microsoft in order to get by in society), and it's what the document foundation is trying to get away from. I think you'll find that when your colleagues open your LO created .docx files, they might not display exactly the same as they did for you (although LO is getting better at this all the time).
From a high level, they are supposed to do mostly the same thing, so from a day-to-day user experience perspective they aren't that different.
odt predates docx
also as you've read, docx is an open standard only on paper, because in practice it's really just about what msoffice does, and it doesn't always follow the standard
i only refuted the other anon's point that it's illegal to implement, because it is not
holy fricking kek what the hell is that, they are moronic AS FRICK
American teachers.
Grow up, literal child.
It is the ISO standard agreed upon by diplomats around the world a long time ago, Microsoft did a shit ton of lobbying back in the day to kill odt and the like.
And yet these days MS is forced to offer odt as a default whenever you install Office.
>export PDF to PNG
>put into .doc file with libreoffice
WordPad is free, included with Windows, and is more than enough for 95% of assignments.
>95% of assignments
>cannot into referencing/citations
IQfy girls need external software to get citations right [1], ycombinators hackers win again.
[1] boards.IQfy.org/g/thread/87638007
>he thinks word processing applications need external software
>he's too moronic to realize that all I meant is it's not baked into WordPad
hot summer this year
When you're regularly producing work which has dozens of footnotes at bare minimum, working with something like WordPad is suicidal. Pic related.
>Liberation Serif
Nice, but get a bit of spacing between those footnotes, it'll look better.
Whoa, great eye anon. It is probably the most legible default font for multilingual papers, and diacritic support is quite respectable. That's from something I wrote a few years ago. Took me a while to get my formatting down pat, but once I did it was a piece of cake. Been done with grad school for two+ years now thank God.
You can just type them up manually. If a class is requiring docx files, it's clearly not anything serious.
>the vast majority of academic institutions in [current year] work with .docx or .pdf
>if it doesn't support my freetardation it's not anything serious
Not accepting PDF is the problem. Anyone working in LaTex, which is standard in academia, is going to be targeting PDF.
This is true. Some classes in undergrad asked for .doc/docx, but once I hit grad school it was 99% PDF, save for a couple of professors who did not know how to annotate PDFs.
Oh yeah, annotating pdf is a pain in the ass. I get why they rather tell you to use what they are comfortable at using.
Just save in docx ad stop complaining about it. Don't get filtered by a file format.
This thread has sixteen posters in it anon. All professors in graduate school asked for PDF for final submissions, and the vast majority asked for PDF in general. Just a couple would ask for .docx when working on revisions.
>annotating pdf is a pain in the ass.
it really is not
it's homework who cares. also, if you ask they probably say yes.
>which is standard in academia
No it's really not, I work in academics with a few of my clients. Absolutely no one gives a flying frick about LaTex outside niche program or professor.
If you're in any college you have google docs or O365, so what's the problem? Both will save in doc and docx formats.
Graduate academic programs vastly prefer PDF.
>people who fall for the post grad meme because "that's where the real money is" believe anything the last professor who was also a post grad told them!
How insightful, still is dead in the water outside academics recycling the use of it. I think out of all the clients I've worked with or supported only like 2 or so ever had anything in LaTex. It's just not that useful when working with a broad spectrum of clients.
You're not responding to who you think you are. PDF != LaTeX.
>I use turnitin
Wow cool. Good thing it's not a global standard and I've never encountered it in an undergraduate or graduate setting. Then again, I was lucky enough to only attend private institutions. Also there's tons of alternatives to Acrobat, several of which are freeware or FOSS.
no they literally don't - I use turnitin in postgrad submission & marking.
pdfs mean I have to get a site liocense/cc sub for acrobat for all of muh tutors and lecturers just so they could mark and annotate papers
whereas we all (staff and students) have 365.
>pdfs mean I have to get a site liocense/cc sub for acrobat
no it does not
go on then - how so
>inb4 you give me some moronic shit about how I ask muh staff to use some random program al a
>Also there's tons of alternatives to Acrobat, several of which are freeware or FOSS.
or get them convert to pdf using some 1337 h4x0r shit on some random website
t. I have a staff of up to 40 including casual tutors - ALL of them have 365 and ALL of them can use it to mark, annotate and grade.
I also have a budget.
>Good thing it's not a global standard and I've never encountered it in an undergraduate or graduate setting.
Clearly your "private unis" are well funded and (I'm guessing) wholly online...
>>inb4 you give me some moronic shit about how I ask muh staff to use some random program al a
and asking them to use acrobat is not asking them to use a random program?
christ anon
>be monolithic org that has provided industry standard pdf editor for decades
>random program
t. course coordinator at a uni
but your feigned superiority and dismissal of me speaks more about you than it does me - let me guess: "professional academic"?
>he failed everywhere else in life so had to basically climb the ladder of the institution where he was learning...
>and universities having serious budgeting issues.
cc licenses would add 45k to a 500 odd k budget for 'incidentals' - software, stationary (not kidding)
about 10% is probably another 2-3 turtors (depending on course load)
>wholly online
Have never and would never. Distance learning is godawful.
>tutors
Oh, you work in the tutoring industry. That pretty much explains everything.
Acrobat is widely used at universities. It's almost ubiquitous in academia if you're a professor or working in an administrative capacity. I've only seen O365 and GSuite frequently used by professors or administrators at two year colleges, and universities having serious budgeting issues.
whereas 365 as I've stated is ubiquitous in unis everywhere here in Ausc**tland and the licenses are academic (I can't tell you off hand what it is) but I can tell you it's a FRICKING SHITLOAD CHEAPER that any cc volume discount
Every single research paper I have worked on, and all of the papers my colleagues have worked on, has been in LaTeX. Typically collaborated over Overleaf or something similar.
>pdfs mean I have to get a site liocense/cc sub for acrobat for all of muh tutors and lecturers just so they could mark and annotate papers
You can literally annotate PDFs in Canvas.
lmao no.
The only academic publications that ask for docx are oompa loompa fields.
Oh, and WordPad *does* work with .docx. That's not the point.
Also, WordPad *does* support references
It's a fricking homework, Jesus Christ. They could tell you to do it with pen and paper for all that matters.
>Also, WordPad *does* support references
>doesn't have header/footer functionality
You're the sort of kid who'd show off how tough he is by punching himself in the face.
I don't think that supports images.
Also it doesn't support doc.
No, but it does support docx. I literally just tried it right now.
>americuh
and they're paying $50 000 a year for this
Weird requirement. I've worked as a TA and graded student assignments via Canvas. There's no problems with displaying PDFs or adding annotations to them via the Canvas interface. Surely that should be the standard, right? Especially seeing as LaTeX is the gold standard for all academic papers, so getting students used to the technology should be encouraged.
As far as I know this is kind of a global thing to combat contract cheating because docx leaves in metadata that can show it was not written by the student
Stfu freetard
>Stfu freetard
No one cares that you run arch or whatever tinker troony distro you waste time on
Your school should've given you an MS office 365 account that you can use through the fricking browser to do whatever inane shit they ask you to do
>Your school should've given you an MS office 365 account
Sounds like boomer PHP tech.
Why don't they use DJVU?
I have only seen DJVU in the wild years ago when I had a friend who was in a Chemistry program. Blast from the past.
google docs unironically solves all of this. stop being a homosexual
Welcome to the real world OP. There's a reason the freetards shilling LaTeX here are unemployed.
You going to a shitty community college in the middle of nowhere USA, aren't you?
FRICK YOU.
>step 1. Login using your office web Student account
>step 2. Download and install office 2022
>step 3. Login as Student
>step 4. Open your file (even pdf can work)
>step 5. Edit it to your heart's content
>step 6. Save as docx and upload
>step 7. ???
>step 8. PROFIT!
>step 2.5 Isn't compatible with Linux
A Student Account would come with Office365 and Word Online
kek, I've used Office Online before, it actually is just as compatible with real Office as LibreOffice. Documents made in word online would look completely different in actual word
Well it's that or not submitting your work at all,
Complaining won't get that assignment in
>kek, I've used Office Online before
i think you spelt cuck wrong.
you have been brainwashed by adobe if you think they are some sort of gods at PDFs
it is not like microsoft office where they practically have/had a monopoly
So you can embed malicious code.
Lol had to do a double take. My community college English professor this summer has the same .docx rule and we use canvas also.
ITT: Gentoo user faces off against his mortal enemy - having to get shit done in the normie world.
Just do like most linux users and run a windows VM with pirated office to cope. Or just go back to windows and LARP that you're still using linux like most of IQfy.
What happened to plain .txt, fricking Black person israelitegle removed it from document translation and only left that gay shit, now I have to copy and paste 30k lines into catbox and website translate for my chink novels. And pajeets at israelitegle can't fricking get their document garbage to work because I can't even paste like 5MB worth of text into that horse shit without it stalling forever. Modern language good, C bad, 5MB hard.
>WHAT THE FRICK IS THIS SHIT???
contemporary academia
>search engine
>safari
>program: cyber security
why universities/colleges went to shit in the past 10 years?
: cyber security
nah this is english
Just install the offline office installer and KMS_ALL it from within a VM or Wine or just natively man.
All micosoft products are free.
>login into FREE academic 365 account that literally comes with a placement at virtually any school or uni
>Click "Install Office" button
>Profit!!!11!
yes goy, use the 365 version and create and log in to an office suite with your Microsoft account
in difference to
>download some trojan from some sketchy website
you can download the offline installers directly from microsoft...
I was more referring to:
>and KMS_ALL
>just install office
>kill myself
checks out. carry on.
requiring DOCX is dumb, but at least office 2010 runs fine in wine (o2007 too and it does not require activation) if someone would absolutely want docx
what i would do, i would just call the professor and ask "do you really need docx, isn't pdf enough" and if the answer is no then just export from libreoffice or something and check with the office that it renders correctly
It's called the real world, and if you intend to deal with it, you'll have to adapt.
Kinda like how you're not supposed to piss and shit yourself anymore.
Put windows in a VM and pirate office
Save? Docx?
add a macro that wipes hdd