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V was a personification of post-war capitalism.
go on
ehhhhh kinda? v was a personification of the pre-war european colonialist decline into "inanimacy," which, at the time, pynchon viewed as what led to post-war capitalism's lack of movement, stasis, which is why the metaphor of entropy is important. v is somewhat of a left-wing "decline of the west," tho i think pynchon corrects some of these views in his later work, especially gravity's rainbow
>i think pynchon corrects some of these views in his later work, especially gravity's rainbow
how so
well i think he dropped his focus on animate/inanimate and morphed it into a focus on technology that mimics nature and dominates nature, like the parody of alchemy in his focus on ig farben's development of plastics and chemicals in nazi germany.
mimicking vs dominating? this never occurred to me
yeah same, i didn't see it at first. what made it click for me was noticing that the translation of farben is roughly "colors." fricking bone-chilling.
lol yeah i don't come here often, i was just rlly bored today bc i have the day off work
farben is dye though lol maybe lay off the weed bro your theory does not cohere
sorry, i meant farbe lol not farben. the words are related tho. i don't speak german, but from what i know farbe is a shade or hue, so not literally color but still
even without the farbe-color thing tho, which could be wrong, i still think the mimicry and domination of nature is a major theme throughout gravity's rainbow
oh ok i thought you actually had something besides made up nonsense
https://etymologeek.com/deu/Farbe
it's not made-up nonsense, at the very least technological domination of nature is an obvious theme.
>at the very least technological domination of nature is an obvious theme
where?
the v2 rocket is literally technological domination of nature. its the culmination of a bunch of fields of natural science and it leads to a machine of mass death (that also can take us to the moon). also, the emphasis on plastics throughout the novel, the focus on not just the corporate history of ig farben but their literal products (both fictional and real). it ties into the depiction of all flavors of sadomasochism throughout the novel and thanatz' theory of "sado-anarchism." i mean, there's a reason the v2 rocket is the chosen symbol the book revolves around. phallic/masculine, culmination of a lot of science (at that time), and counterpart to gravity (natural force), which it "wants" to escape and transcend, but cannot.
sorry for effortpost
perhaps desire for domination as opposed to domination is a better phrase. the rocket does not end up transcending gravity
It's so weird seeing your effortpost on IQfy
I think I’m moronic because I read the book but didn’t understand the point. It just seemed like you followed random people around
Like a slice of life book. Am I actually moronic? Was there some glaring theme or message in plain sight the whole time?
not glaring, but yeah there's a point. you're not moronic tho that's most ppls reaction. read it again
same responder, actually read the crying of lot 49 instead. that's a better intro to pynchon, teaches you how to read him
>Was there some glaring theme or message in plain sight the whole time?
bro...
try reading V first, then take another crack at GR. You're not moronic, you just need spend some time with his style first. Like with Joyce and Portrait or Faulkner and As I Lay Dying. Baby steps before big giant leaps.
>try reading V first
bad advice.
lol where do i start then
you can start with V. if you want, but it's kind of a slog. Easier to stomach when you have some of his better books under your belt. TCOL49 is just a rough draft of GR so I'd start there too.
>TCOL49 is just a rough draft of GR
what does this mean
>no tommy NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
so did Mondaugen imagine his dreams or were those somebody's memories