look up hadley cells
it's difficult (not impossible) to sail from china to California but that's why you sail from korea to british columbia when you cross the pacific east
>it's impossible to sail from china to california
Not only is that not true, Japanese fishermen likely sailed off course throughout history and ended up in the Americas before Columbian contact.
>Japanese fishermen likely sailed off course throughout history and ended up in the Americas before Columbian contact.
If we're going to be this pedantic we can also bring up Leif Erikson, or Basque fisherman that likely also sailed to the Americas pre-Columbus
The truth is that the question of who "discovered" America is moronic, because nobody really discovered it, it was always there apart of the same planet as everyone else and many peoples came and went through it. The reason Columbus is considered significant is not because he "discovered" the Americas, but because he triggered the largest migration in human history to the Americas and eventually ushered in the modern world.
We still call Columbus' arrival the discovery of the Americas because they were not the Americas before the domino effect that put the continents into the global map politically. Fishing near the land or putting one mudhutt on the nord and keeping to yourself does nothing in history.
My point is that the claim that
>it's impossible to sail from china to california
Was wrong. There are other factors which explain why they did not explore and discover and colonize the new world. But saying it was not possible is incorrect.
My favorite pedantry to piss off other pedants is to point out that America was actually colonized long term by Europeans before Leif Erikson, that is by Erik the Red. Everyone seems to forget that Greenland is part of America.
Though ultimately you are right and even the colonization of Greenland amounted to nothing beyond the trade of narwhal tusks back to Europe.
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https://i.imgur.com/oPhiryT.jpg
>Japanese fishermen likely sailed off course throughout history and ended up in the Americas before Columbian contact.
If we're going to be this pedantic we can also bring up Leif Erikson, or Basque fisherman that likely also sailed to the Americas pre-Columbus
The truth is that the question of who "discovered" America is moronic, because nobody really discovered it, it was always there apart of the same planet as everyone else and many peoples came and went through it. The reason Columbus is considered significant is not because he "discovered" the Americas, but because he triggered the largest migration in human history to the Americas and eventually ushered in the modern world.
If you want to be really pedantic the first contact (After the original ice age migration) were Siberian people who sailed acrosss the Bering Strait
They also had more of a lasting impact than the other theorized contacts >The ancestors of the Inuit migrated this way >Possibly how some PNW tribes got iron >Chuckhi and Alaskan Eskimo traded and ocasionally raided each other until the 1940s (The USSR and the US ended the raids to avoid a conflict in the region)
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Were the Inuits aware of East Siberia prior to European contact? Did they had regular contact with the Siberian tribes?
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Source on that last part, it is very interesting to me.
>The truth is that the question of who "discovered" America is moronic, because nobody really discovered it, it was always there apart of the same planet as everyone else and many peoples came and went through it
moron liberal way of seeing things/dimmissing great men. Columbus made a discovery that spread like wildfire in the Old World
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He did say Columbus was important though >The reason Columbus is considered significant is not because he "discovered" the Americas, but because he triggered the largest migration in human history to the Americas and eventually ushered in the modern world.
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I'm just too tired from North American media propping up the "we wuz here already, Colombus didn't discover anything"
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Anonymous
The internet is now mostly Asian. Its basically Detroit.
"Europeans" didnt discover America either it was Spaniards led by an Italian and with Portuguese naval technology
I hate how people make it sound like it was a collective effort when it was just 2-3 countries >inb4 vikangz cope
My favorite pedantry to piss off other pedants is to point out that America was actually colonized long term by Europeans before Leif Erikson, that is by Erik the Red. Everyone seems to forget that Greenland is part of America.
Though ultimately you are right and even the colonization of Greenland amounted to nothing beyond the trade of narwhal tusks back to Europe.
Liars.
Liars.
Liars.
Liars.
This was not discovered by the Asians , or discovered by the Spanish,or even discovered by the Norse,no, no,this was first discovered by Basque (after the natives, of Course)
You all stole future Basque land. >https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_colonization_of_the_Americas >Basques and whaling have an intimate history; the first accounts of Basque whaling dates back to the 670s when the Basques of Labourd sold 40 jars of whale oil. Basques came to hunt whales especially, in the Bay of Biscay in the 16th century, using techniques learned from the Vikings and Normans who plundered the Basque country, formerly named Vasconia in 844.
>The most important nuclei of Basque immigration into the Americas were located on the Labourd coast, including Saint-Jean-de-Luz, Ciboure and Bayonne. Other important ports in southern Basque country included Pasaia, Getaria, and Bermeo.
Fricking liars.
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Last I checked the basque country was in Spain
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>Labourd
Forget what I say
It's in France then, still not its own country eitherway
We still call Columbus' arrival the discovery of the Americas because they were not the Americas before the domino effect that put the continents into the global map politically. Fishing near the land or putting one mudhutt on the nord and keeping to yourself does nothing in history.
> Asians (Native Americans)
Obviously when they say Asian they mean East Asians like the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese et al, not Siberians. Nobody considers Russians to be "Asians" for example even though Russia is technically in Asia
Native Americans are genetically Asian, they are not comparable to Russians at all.
>The results are not concordant with the multiple-wave migration hypothesis; a surprisingly short genetic distance between Chinese and Native Americans was found and explained by a recent gene flow from Asia [21].
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874220/#:~:text=The%20First%20Amerindian%20Natives%20are,between%20American%20and%20Asian%20populations.
>asians
the reason china and japan are mentioned specifically is because they were the sophisticated, relevant forces to do it. apparently they had no conception of native americans. it's an interesting point to make even if put to us rudely.
of course, you should know why it was.
native europeans and their ethnic offspring in america don't have self-esteem anymore while in places like china and japan the dominant ethnicities are loud and proud.
>the reason china and japan are mentioned specifically is because they were the sophisticated, relevant forces
China yes, Japan no. Japan, despite being literally an island, never had a significant naval force until like the 19th century. I know that naval exploration is not the same as a naval force, but if you're bad at one you will most likely be bad at the other. And Japan had strict isolationist policies for long periods of time, to the point where most people straight up were forbidden from taking overseas voyages.
the perspective that Japan has historically been trivial was brought about by the US propaganda after WW2.
It had actually developed powerful diplomatic influence by the 16th century especially to southeast asia along with the world's biggest amount of matchlock guns domestically produced.
Nah they had tons of feats everything from architecture to sumo to bonzai to even some of the earliest novels like genji. The also had one of the least moronic and most aware writing systems where voiced and unvoiced consonants are accurately depicted as the same. Most americans on the street today wouldn't even be able to tell you which ones correspond.
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logographic characters are one of the most moronic systems not least and sumo is not great contribution nor their copy paste chinese buildings moronic weebcuck
They already lived in three middle kingdom and didn't need to go to shithole countries. Euro monkeys on the other hand were sitting out twelve babies in their mud huts and the surplus went to the Americas to take and pillage and "bring the light off Christianity"
>Euro monkeys on the other hand were sitting out twelve babies in their mud huts and the surplus went to the Americas to take and pillage and "bring the light off Christianity"
sounds based to me
>Nobody considers Russians to be "Asians"
Plenty of people do, in fact the topic comes up often especially here. But he's completely right that Native Americans were Asians who settled America.
Because they're uneducated. Ask the average person to name 10 countries in Asia, then you will understand why they say that. I don't really care, I'm just saying I have higher standards.
Because they're uneducated. Ask the average person to name 10 countries in Asia, then you will understand why they say that. I don't really care, I'm just saying I have higher standards.
t. seething diaspora poos
nobody on the planet thinks of you as asian nor will they ever
Is there some kind of movement for Indians to be recognized as Asian? I've never met an Indian person who cared about that.
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Not really a movement, but both second generation pajeets and liberal crybabies sometimes try to categorize poos as asians simply because india is literally in asia
2 months ago
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>try to categorize indians as asians simply because india is literally in asia
How did you even end up this moronic?
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Africa used to just be North Africa, now North Africans refuse to call themselves Africans because Africa is now associated with their numerous distant cousins further south. Asia has always began in Turkey, so it makes sense that everything East of Turkey is Asian too.
>Native Americans were Asians who settled America.
Lmao this talking point has never made any sense to me. I guess white people are now “Africans who settled Europe” because their distant ancestors came from there thousands of years ago?
Well let's put it this way: Native Americans and East/North Asians diverged around 30-36kya, while Europeans and Levantine people diverged around 16kya.
If the Native Americans are genetically related to the Chinese, it just shows how useless the idea of ethnonationalism truly is because they never maintained a Chinese culture or identity, they barely even settled virgin land aside from parts of South and Central America and the American Southwest before Europeans showed up and nearly genocided them all. What good were their Chinese genes then?
Why exactly WOULD a Chinese emperor or whatever organize and fund an expedition into the cold wastelands and icy waters where there's nothing of value to them, and that they likely couldn't control anyway? It's not like they knew of the Americas, and it's not like they were as desperate for European trade as the Europeans were for Asian trade (along with avoiding Muslim taxes).
>Unsuccessful finding funding in Portugal, Columbus moved to Spain. In 1492, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabell, the joint monarchs of Spain, agreed to finance Columbus's voyage in return for the gold, spices, and riches that he might find.
Nearly all European explorers were funded by kings
I guess not since they considered themselves to be the center of the world
Also many of those legends came from the need for outside trade >Europeans buy goods from foreign merchants >Routes are sometimes kept secre or just poorly understood >Wild speculation about were the gold and spices come from
"Europeans" didnt discover America either it was Spaniards led by an Italian and with Portuguese naval technology
I hate how people make it sound like it was a collective effort when it was just 2-3 countries >inb4 vikangz cope
To my knowledge, Asian nations of the time had everything they needed to survive as is without needing to take to the sea nor did they need to modernize for a WHILE. No need to find a route to Europeans when Europeans are the ones who want your exotic spices and stuff, that's on them.
Native americans aren't asian. They're half ancient east asian and half ancient north eurasian, and they crossed the bering strait 30,000 years ago to proliferate the american continent before any civilizations existed. They're their own thing
They'd need to make frequent stops along the coast, right?
If Bering Strait geography and weather is anything like Canadian or Scandinavian ice swamp islands and coasts, I can see why they would be borderline impossible for outside adventurers to traverse.
There are ice flows in late Fall/early Winter that are a nightmare for boats. Then the ice turns solid and it's unrelenting cold and dark all the time. Then the ice sheets break into ice flows as they melt. Then in Spring it's soaking cold rain. Then in Summer it's swarms of mosquitos thicker than a Louisiana bayou. Bears in the artic seem more aggressive, polar bears really do attack humans. Not to mention wolves.
It would be hard to provision for such a trip if you weren't indigenous to the artic circle. But besides the Vikings, who else had the maritime technology, skill, and expansionist culture to even attempt this?
The Chinese, silly.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He#:~:text=Zheng%20He%20(simplified%20Chinese%3A%20郑,greatest%20admiral%20in%20Chinese%20history.
Imagine the kino of the Americas inhabited by the East Asians and in turn Africa and the near east taken by Europeans. They would have a WWII style stand-off after hundreds of years of Cold War struggle.
North America, South America and Africa could have 3 billion Whites by now. Caribs should’ve been where all the natives were sent by the Iberians but they got horny.
Sailing from Asia to America ain't easy but Australia was closer and was empty with a handful of primitive Abo and the High iq Mongoloids living all around it never went there. Very bizarre.
Idiots who think IQ has any real meaning in today's world will tell you that Southeast Asians are "low IQ" compared to East Asians anyways. Besides, South Asians from India somehow got to Australia about 4,000 years ago, contributing their DNA to Northern Australian Aboriginals.
There actually was low level contact between abos and south East Asian fishermen/sea cucumber harvesters.
Some think the Polynesians reached parts of South America because there were chicken bones dated to the pre-Columbian era. Chickens weren’t in the New World.
East asians never had any interest in colonizing other countries. They're extremely risk-avoidant (that's basically what defines them), so expeditions overseas to take over some far away land in the hopes of turning a profit wasn't their thing at all.
for that matter, a much better example of that reluctance to explore (which that twitter poster obviously didn't know about) is Formosa/Taiwan. The Dutch, who were completely on the other side of the world, actually colonized it before the Chinese did. They simply never had any interest in investigating that place. Eventually, they did take it from the dutch, but even then they hesitated over whether or not to keep it. Some of them believed that it would be too much trouble.
Not that there's anything wrong with that mentality, europeans didn't even really beneficiate from colonialization, and asians nowadays are doing very well, so who cares?
i mean why would they? all of the world's merchants came to them, not the other way around. It's not like the portuguese, venetians, and genoese that got cucked by the ottoman empire when they took egypt, so they had to start searching for alternatives
>europeans didn’t really beneficiate from from colonization
Lol, tell that to the Spanish who mined a mountain of silver, or the French with their fields of sugar plantations, or the British and their East India Company.
Europeans didn't find Americas out of their genuinely adventurous spirit. They accidentally made it on their way to southeast asia where a valuable flora including spices is guaranteed.
China and Japan needed to reach the following two as equivalent motives to those of Europeans.
1. They must've needed goods from Europe or Africa
2. They must've reached the scientific level to understand the earth is round and to calculate its circumference.
The entire pacific and the 1000s of islands should already be 100% White. By now but White guilt gets in the way. Taiwan , Hainan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, Korean islands, and Hokkaido etc.
White people are outgoing pioneering chads who will do crazy things like crossing unknown seas.
They do this because they are confident, have high t, are physically resilient, honest, and sociable.
White people fricking mog the planet.
Give it up, its over. All you are doing is coping.
Whites won.
Even if Whites went extinct a thousand years ago, theyd still have won and you will NEVER know what its like to be tall, good looking, non shit colored, strong, and have sex with other people that are tall and good looking.
look up trade winds
it's impossible to sail from china to california
look up hadley cells
it's difficult (not impossible) to sail from china to California but that's why you sail from korea to british columbia when you cross the pacific east
The Spanish did it for generations.
>it's impossible to sail from china to california
Not only is that not true, Japanese fishermen likely sailed off course throughout history and ended up in the Americas before Columbian contact.
>Japanese fishermen likely sailed off course throughout history and ended up in the Americas before Columbian contact.
If we're going to be this pedantic we can also bring up Leif Erikson, or Basque fisherman that likely also sailed to the Americas pre-Columbus
The truth is that the question of who "discovered" America is moronic, because nobody really discovered it, it was always there apart of the same planet as everyone else and many peoples came and went through it. The reason Columbus is considered significant is not because he "discovered" the Americas, but because he triggered the largest migration in human history to the Americas and eventually ushered in the modern world.
>nobody really discovered it, it was always there
/his/
My point is that the claim that
>it's impossible to sail from china to california
Was wrong. There are other factors which explain why they did not explore and discover and colonize the new world. But saying it was not possible is incorrect.
My favorite pedantry to piss off other pedants is to point out that America was actually colonized long term by Europeans before Leif Erikson, that is by Erik the Red. Everyone seems to forget that Greenland is part of America.
Though ultimately you are right and even the colonization of Greenland amounted to nothing beyond the trade of narwhal tusks back to Europe.
If you want to be really pedantic the first contact (After the original ice age migration) were Siberian people who sailed acrosss the Bering Strait
They also had more of a lasting impact than the other theorized contacts
>The ancestors of the Inuit migrated this way
>Possibly how some PNW tribes got iron
>Chuckhi and Alaskan Eskimo traded and ocasionally raided each other until the 1940s (The USSR and the US ended the raids to avoid a conflict in the region)
Were the Inuits aware of East Siberia prior to European contact? Did they had regular contact with the Siberian tribes?
Source on that last part, it is very interesting to me.
>The truth is that the question of who "discovered" America is moronic, because nobody really discovered it, it was always there apart of the same planet as everyone else and many peoples came and went through it
moron liberal way of seeing things/dimmissing great men. Columbus made a discovery that spread like wildfire in the Old World
He did say Columbus was important though
>The reason Columbus is considered significant is not because he "discovered" the Americas, but because he triggered the largest migration in human history to the Americas and eventually ushered in the modern world.
I'm just too tired from North American media propping up the "we wuz here already, Colombus didn't discover anything"
The internet is now mostly Asian. Its basically Detroit.
They mean discovered by civilization
Liars.
Liars.
Liars.
Liars.
This was not discovered by the Asians , or discovered by the Spanish,or even discovered by the Norse,no, no,this was first discovered by Basque (after the natives, of Course)
You all stole future Basque land.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_colonization_of_the_Americas
>Basques and whaling have an intimate history; the first accounts of Basque whaling dates back to the 670s when the Basques of Labourd sold 40 jars of whale oil. Basques came to hunt whales especially, in the Bay of Biscay in the 16th century, using techniques learned from the Vikings and Normans who plundered the Basque country, formerly named Vasconia in 844.
>The most important nuclei of Basque immigration into the Americas were located on the Labourd coast, including Saint-Jean-de-Luz, Ciboure and Bayonne. Other important ports in southern Basque country included Pasaia, Getaria, and Bermeo.
Fricking liars.
Last I checked the basque country was in Spain
>Labourd
Forget what I say
It's in France then, still not its own country eitherway
BasqueCHADS win once again
We still call Columbus' arrival the discovery of the Americas because they were not the Americas before the domino effect that put the continents into the global map politically. Fishing near the land or putting one mudhutt on the nord and keeping to yourself does nothing in history.
>all the asians had to do
Absolutely moron. Asians (Native Americans) not only were the first to discover it but they also settled it.
> Asians (Native Americans)
Obviously when they say Asian they mean East Asians like the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese et al, not Siberians. Nobody considers Russians to be "Asians" for example even though Russia is technically in Asia
Native Americans are genetically Asian, they are not comparable to Russians at all.
>The results are not concordant with the multiple-wave migration hypothesis; a surprisingly short genetic distance between Chinese and Native Americans was found and explained by a recent gene flow from Asia [21].
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874220/#:~:text=The%20First%20Amerindian%20Natives%20are,between%20American%20and%20Asian%20populations.
>2010
lol
lmao even
frick off
that was 5 full years before ANE was discovered, shit is woefully out of date
They're talking about civilized cultures (West).
>asians
the reason china and japan are mentioned specifically is because they were the sophisticated, relevant forces to do it. apparently they had no conception of native americans. it's an interesting point to make even if put to us rudely.
of course, you should know why it was.
native europeans and their ethnic offspring in america don't have self-esteem anymore while in places like china and japan the dominant ethnicities are loud and proud.
>the reason china and japan are mentioned specifically is because they were the sophisticated, relevant forces
China yes, Japan no. Japan, despite being literally an island, never had a significant naval force until like the 19th century. I know that naval exploration is not the same as a naval force, but if you're bad at one you will most likely be bad at the other. And Japan had strict isolationist policies for long periods of time, to the point where most people straight up were forbidden from taking overseas voyages.
>japan
>historically sophisticated
Bait or weeb? They were nothing until the 1800's
the perspective that Japan has historically been trivial was brought about by the US propaganda after WW2.
It had actually developed powerful diplomatic influence by the 16th century especially to southeast asia along with the world's biggest amount of matchlock guns domestically produced.
Nah they had tons of feats everything from architecture to sumo to bonzai to even some of the earliest novels like genji. The also had one of the least moronic and most aware writing systems where voiced and unvoiced consonants are accurately depicted as the same. Most americans on the street today wouldn't even be able to tell you which ones correspond.
logographic characters are one of the most moronic systems not least and sumo is not great contribution nor their copy paste chinese buildings moronic weebcuck
lmao why didn't thsoe stupid eurangatans just walk to china instead of sailing the wrong way across the entire globe? frickin morons
>why didn't thsoe stupid eurangatans just walk to china
...they did, thats literally the whole story of Marco Polo
Silk Road bros?
Islam happened.
open ocean is safer than russia
because sailing is cheaper you dumbfrick
They already lived in three middle kingdom and didn't need to go to shithole countries. Euro monkeys on the other hand were sitting out twelve babies in their mud huts and the surplus went to the Americas to take and pillage and "bring the light off Christianity"
>Euro monkeys on the other hand were sitting out twelve babies in their mud huts and the surplus went to the Americas to take and pillage and "bring the light off Christianity"
sounds based to me
>Nobody considers Russians to be "Asians"
Plenty of people do, in fact the topic comes up often especially here. But he's completely right that Native Americans were Asians who settled America.
For most people "Asian" is just shorthand for East Asians only. Russians are either considered their own thing or just Slavic
Because they're uneducated. Ask the average person to name 10 countries in Asia, then you will understand why they say that. I don't really care, I'm just saying I have higher standards.
t. seething diaspora poos
nobody on the planet thinks of you as asian nor will they ever
Is there some kind of movement for Indians to be recognized as Asian? I've never met an Indian person who cared about that.
Not really a movement, but both second generation pajeets and liberal crybabies sometimes try to categorize poos as asians simply because india is literally in asia
>try to categorize indians as asians simply because india is literally in asia
How did you even end up this moronic?
Africa used to just be North Africa, now North Africans refuse to call themselves Africans because Africa is now associated with their numerous distant cousins further south. Asia has always began in Turkey, so it makes sense that everything East of Turkey is Asian too.
>Native Americans were Asians who settled America.
Lmao this talking point has never made any sense to me. I guess white people are now “Africans who settled Europe” because their distant ancestors came from there thousands of years ago?
Yes.
Well let's put it this way: Native Americans and East/North Asians diverged around 30-36kya, while Europeans and Levantine people diverged around 16kya.
who's to say they didnt?
If the Native Americans are genetically related to the Chinese, it just shows how useless the idea of ethnonationalism truly is because they never maintained a Chinese culture or identity, they barely even settled virgin land aside from parts of South and Central America and the American Southwest before Europeans showed up and nearly genocided them all. What good were their Chinese genes then?
you have an IQ in the low 90s
No faustian spirit.
Why exactly WOULD a Chinese emperor or whatever organize and fund an expedition into the cold wastelands and icy waters where there's nothing of value to them, and that they likely couldn't control anyway? It's not like they knew of the Americas, and it's not like they were as desperate for European trade as the Europeans were for Asian trade (along with avoiding Muslim taxes).
Didn't stop the Greeks from exploring Thule and shit.
Because tin came from the NorthWest…
>Requiring an emperor to give the go-ahead to explore
Classic China
>Unsuccessful finding funding in Portugal, Columbus moved to Spain. In 1492, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabell, the joint monarchs of Spain, agreed to finance Columbus's voyage in return for the gold, spices, and riches that he might find.
Nearly all European explorers were funded by kings
did they not have stories about far away lands of riches and wonders? Such were one big reason for european explorers to go into the unknown
I guess not since they considered themselves to be the center of the world
Also many of those legends came from the need for outside trade
>Europeans buy goods from foreign merchants
>Routes are sometimes kept secre or just poorly understood
>Wild speculation about were the gold and spices come from
*secret
"Europeans" didnt discover America either it was Spaniards led by an Italian and with Portuguese naval technology
I hate how people make it sound like it was a collective effort when it was just 2-3 countries
>inb4 vikangz cope
Can't tell if this is a joke or 6K are genuinely moronic
To my knowledge, Asian nations of the time had everything they needed to survive as is without needing to take to the sea nor did they need to modernize for a WHILE. No need to find a route to Europeans when Europeans are the ones who want your exotic spices and stuff, that's on them.
Asian here. We don't need to cope. You white homosexuals won't even exist in a 100 years. Good riddance.
your birthrates are lower than ours
The problem isnt birthrates but Blacks and muslims outbreeding whites
Iirc in France something like 40% of newborn are white
yea because we'll all have hapa children with our asian wives 😉
asians don't possess the spirit for exploration. they're happy to live in perfectly insular, stagnant kingdoms for all of eternity.
White people went exploring because they couldn't sexually satisfy their women and needed to discover BBC to do it. Asians have no such problems.
Native americans aren't asian. They're half ancient east asian and half ancient north eurasian, and they crossed the bering strait 30,000 years ago to proliferate the american continent before any civilizations existed. They're their own thing
They'd need to make frequent stops along the coast, right?
If Bering Strait geography and weather is anything like Canadian or Scandinavian ice swamp islands and coasts, I can see why they would be borderline impossible for outside adventurers to traverse.
There are ice flows in late Fall/early Winter that are a nightmare for boats. Then the ice turns solid and it's unrelenting cold and dark all the time. Then the ice sheets break into ice flows as they melt. Then in Spring it's soaking cold rain. Then in Summer it's swarms of mosquitos thicker than a Louisiana bayou. Bears in the artic seem more aggressive, polar bears really do attack humans. Not to mention wolves.
It would be hard to provision for such a trip if you weren't indigenous to the artic circle. But besides the Vikings, who else had the maritime technology, skill, and expansionist culture to even attempt this?
The Chinese, silly.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He#:~:text=Zheng%20He%20(simplified%20Chinese%3A%20郑,greatest%20admiral%20in%20Chinese%20history.
The pacific is much bigger than the atlantic, besides, why explore when you’re the centre of the world?
Imagine the kino of the Americas inhabited by the East Asians and in turn Africa and the near east taken by Europeans. They would have a WWII style stand-off after hundreds of years of Cold War struggle.
I wonder how east asians would react to groups of native americans and vice versa?
if coming from the north with scarce resources, trade, then genocide due to germs and advanced weaponry. pretty much the same that happened IRL
>I wonder how east asians would react to groups of native americans
swiftly and brutally
North America, South America and Africa could have 3 billion Whites by now. Caribs should’ve been where all the natives were sent by the Iberians but they got horny.
Sailing from Asia to America ain't easy but Australia was closer and was empty with a handful of primitive Abo and the High iq Mongoloids living all around it never went there. Very bizarre.
There actually was low level contact between abos and south East Asian fishermen/sea cucumber harvesters.
Qrd?
Idiots who think IQ has any real meaning in today's world will tell you that Southeast Asians are "low IQ" compared to East Asians anyways. Besides, South Asians from India somehow got to Australia about 4,000 years ago, contributing their DNA to Northern Australian Aboriginals.
IQ has nothing to do with your willingness to explore dumbass why don't you try researching a topic before complaining about it.
Some think the Polynesians reached parts of South America because there were chicken bones dated to the pre-Columbian era. Chickens weren’t in the New World.
East asians never had any interest in colonizing other countries. They're extremely risk-avoidant (that's basically what defines them), so expeditions overseas to take over some far away land in the hopes of turning a profit wasn't their thing at all.
for that matter, a much better example of that reluctance to explore (which that twitter poster obviously didn't know about) is Formosa/Taiwan. The Dutch, who were completely on the other side of the world, actually colonized it before the Chinese did. They simply never had any interest in investigating that place. Eventually, they did take it from the dutch, but even then they hesitated over whether or not to keep it. Some of them believed that it would be too much trouble.
Not that there's anything wrong with that mentality, europeans didn't even really beneficiate from colonialization, and asians nowadays are doing very well, so who cares?
i mean why would they? all of the world's merchants came to them, not the other way around. It's not like the portuguese, venetians, and genoese that got cucked by the ottoman empire when they took egypt, so they had to start searching for alternatives
>europeans didn’t really beneficiate from from colonization
Lol, tell that to the Spanish who mined a mountain of silver, or the French with their fields of sugar plantations, or the British and their East India Company.
Japan was isolationists for most of its history nor did they had the naval expertise to make that journey.
Europeans didn't find Americas out of their genuinely adventurous spirit. They accidentally made it on their way to southeast asia where a valuable flora including spices is guaranteed.
China and Japan needed to reach the following two as equivalent motives to those of Europeans.
1. They must've needed goods from Europe or Africa
2. They must've reached the scientific level to understand the earth is round and to calculate its circumference.
They lacked both 1 and 2.
charting new routes is genuinely adventurous behavior
The entire pacific and the 1000s of islands should already be 100% White. By now but White guilt gets in the way. Taiwan , Hainan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, Korean islands, and Hokkaido etc.
White people are outgoing pioneering chads who will do crazy things like crossing unknown seas.
They do this because they are confident, have high t, are physically resilient, honest, and sociable.
White people fricking mog the planet.
Give it up, its over. All you are doing is coping.
Whites won.
Even if Whites went extinct a thousand years ago, theyd still have won and you will NEVER know what its like to be tall, good looking, non shit colored, strong, and have sex with other people that are tall and good looking.
You will never have this. Its over.