You are not a philosopher if you can't read this.

You are not a philosopher if you can't read this.

You may have a complex taste for literature and even read Kant on the side but if you can't formalise your thoughts there is no possibility for you to be able to actually craft knowledge which can be identified as such.

From the standpoint of the advancement of knowing, a thinker that won't formalise may as well be a stoner looking up to the stars, or, even worse a Glass Bead Game Player.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can read it. But how advanced are you, actually? This is the baby stuff.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP, I took a class on this stuff in college and really enjoyed it. How do I get into the advanced stuff? I've tried getting into math proofs, but my math is sorta garbage, whereas I did really well on the symbolic logic proofs.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not that you are bad at math. You are bad at harder things

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you want mathematics then give it time and practice, as well finding some peers.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not that you are bad at math. You are bad at harder things

        What elitist math losers don't want you to know is that math is simply precise language, and much like any spoken language, fluency comes from familiarity, which is a function of time and immersion.

        Their first course of action to protect their special, exclusive identity is often a tactic like that seen in OP, where they inflate the capacity of their ability as well as suggest any navigable path there-toward is non-existent for the un-anointed. If they succeed in the transmission of these lies, then they can prevent you from ever starting on the road, thereby fulfilling the contentions they made at the outset. Never forget this when dealing with these uni-faceted creeps.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          What a grating display of peak pseudery, coupled with shameless ignorance.
          You are moronic. Condolences to your parents (who failed)

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your condescending diction sucks, bro-ham. You need, by my estimate, further, as we've stated, previously, immersion, or, again, as we've said, time—I'd, however, for you, recommend suicide.

            What I said is specifically that math was not some separate thing from formal logic, so the guy was not good at formal logic yet bad at math. The guy was bad at hard things. Learn to fricking read

            So what? You can suck my balls. By your butthurt reaction I can tell I hit the nail right on the fricking head therefore I WAS right in (You)ing you ya fat goose.

            Math is more akin to poetry written in such language. Immersion and practice will help you to speak and understand it, but literacy does not a poet make.

            literacy doesn't even any kind of a writer make

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          What I said is specifically that math was not some separate thing from formal logic, so the guy was not good at formal logic yet bad at math. The guy was bad at hard things. Learn to fricking read

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Math is more akin to poetry written in such language. Immersion and practice will help you to speak and understand it, but literacy does not a poet make.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know but there's a bunch of formal logics and what's most interesting about them to me is what they let you express, and their semantics, but if what you're into is proofs then you can focus on that if you prefer. Anyway, you should at least look into the following stuff (you've probably done the first two)
        >Sentential logic
        >Predicate logic + First-order logic
        >Syllogistic logic (for historical purposes)
        >Inductive logic
        >Modal logic
        >Tense logic
        >Deontic logic
        >Intensional logics
        >Three-valued and fuzzy logics
        >Paraconsistent logics
        >Free logics
        >Relation algebra
        >Lambda calculus
        >Calculus of individuals (logic of mereology)
        >Plural logic and plural predication logic
        >Type theory
        >Higher-order logics

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a thinker that won't formalise may as well be a stoner looking up to the stars
        Nobody actually cares about logical formalization and at least in math it's frowned upon. Natural language is easier to understand, looks better, and retains writer style.

        Logic is a field of philosophy first and foremost - you don't need to be a mathematician to do it. There are areas of logic that belong to math exclusively, but you can avoid those (e.g. Category Theory). What areas did you study in your logic class? If it was predicate/sentential logic then the next step would probably be basic set theory and modal logic. Stay away from intuitionist logic and non-standard logics, it's homosexualy computer science bullshit. If you want to get good at math, which is a separate issue, then you should practice math. Usually you start with calculation based math like algebra/pre-calc/calc then move on to proof based math. However, you could also start working through a book like "Proofs" by Jay Cummings, which iirc doesn't require any fancy prior math knowledge. It's one of the better proofs intros I've read, although it's writing is reddity.

        [...]

        What elitist math losers don't want you to know is that math is simply precise language, and much like any spoken language, fluency comes from familiarity, which is a function of time and immersion.

        Their first course of action to protect their special, exclusive identity is often a tactic like that seen in OP, where they inflate the capacity of their ability as well as suggest any navigable path there-toward is non-existent for the un-anointed. If they succeed in the transmission of these lies, then they can prevent you from ever starting on the road, thereby fulfilling the contentions they made at the outset. Never forget this when dealing with these uni-faceted creeps.

        Math people are usually pretty helpful and encourage others that enough practice will make them good at math in my experience. It's engineering college students who are elitist about math despite imploding the moment a problem can't be done with intro Matlab code, because they've been told all their life they're "special" for being able to do basic algebra.

        What I said is specifically that math was not some separate thing from formal logic, so the guy was not good at formal logic yet bad at math. The guy was bad at hard things. Learn to fricking read

        Math is a separate thing from formal logic. They're two different disciplines albeit very co-dependent.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >math
        >math
        >math
        It’s ridiculous how you cannot apply Philosophy and Logic to see that you‘re doing formal maths and not philosophy.

        I bet you’re an Anglo you absolute subhuman soj eater

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nietzsche had no use for systematic analysis. Gtfo.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    > You are not a philosopher if you can't read this.
    doesn't mean you are a philosopher if you can read this, you featherless biped

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fawning over symbolic notation
    Peak Dunning-Kruger pseud.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    lost in a world of symbols. sad.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    kill anglos, behead anglos, etc... etc...

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      kill continentals, kill moron that can't think logically, behead low IQs, etc... etc...

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        A more "efficient" (not really) way of writing doesn't make your philosophy any better. Analytics are irrelevant because most of them are too stupid and autistic to even realise something this basic.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but the point of symbolic abstraction isn't efficiency, it's precision.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is literally 3rd week material for any intro to theoretical math college course. You would shit yourself and cry if you tried to read Kant.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >le symbol pushing
    Anyone can learn math rules.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m a based English chad. I’m not reading that homosexualy Greek shit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      post more pics of your gattos, friend

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Disaster Artist
      >Rich Dad Poor Dad
      >The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Frick
      >Russell Brand
      >Godel, Escher, and Bach
      Holy cringe tourist

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong. Philosophy is with attitude not logic. But how can I still be impish yet still have more wisdom than a lot of you? Perhaps because Nietzsche was right. Nothing exists in this flat universe except pain. A hardened world with flavorless husks, it's just as dragon's dogma said.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nietzsche f.e. was not a philosopher.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        By training he was a philologist, but even the most autistic analytic would admit his work is a tremendously important part of the philosophical canon.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          To the literary canon maybe.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just owned you without even speaking. Reading maybe you did own me but it's all in the rebuttal

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Philosophy.
    Start with the Greeks and finish with the Romans, that's what I say.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are not a philosopher if you can't fluently read Ancient Greek, Latin, German and French.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Analytic philosophy isn't even philosophy, it's math and linguistics LARP. This trash belongs on IQfy, no here.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you are not X unless you conform to the preconceived notions I believe apply to me
    how does it feel being a psych textbook example

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      its just basic logic

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I guess that's why you're stuck in a book hazeus

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        And yet you failed the underlying basic logic of establishing the boundaries of what being a philosopher means.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao I can read this and I've only ever studied math and computer science, not philosophy.

    Stop with the natural language LARP and embrace the rigor.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any philosopher today who is ignorant of mathematics is utterly deficient and incapable of contributing anything interesting. That doesn't have anything to do with skill at symbolic substitution algorithms, though.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can assure you that mathematics has a hard limit in philosophy

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are the ones that get filtered by logic worshipping Nietzsche so much?

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can read it but I choose not to.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    A philosopher is just someone who loves and seeks wisdom/enlightenment, it's not some elite club.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Formal logic is very nice. I've only read the Tractatus, what else should I read from analytic philosophy?
    >t. Mathgay

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Philosophy is not some economic beast of personal success that you display on a wall for other people

    Luckily, philosophers need produce nothing at all because by virtue of morphic resonance and collective consciousness anybody that pursues wisdom(a philosopher) raises the species up without doing anything more than thinking and experiencing.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Glass Bead Game Player
    Literally me

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you implying stoners looking at the stars are not doing philosophy?

    You are wrong.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    mathematicians = fat frick who get to drive cool car

    continental philosophers = fit muscular frick who have to walk

    analytic philosopher = fat frick in a canoe on land

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you've learned over a half dozen instantiations of modern formal logic, but you've never read Aristotle's Organon cover to cover, then you're not only not a philosopher, but you're a sophist of the worst kind.

    • 11 months ago
      The Saltless Moonwhistle

      Granted

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    All writing is literature and truth is a value to be bought and sold.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Math is a must.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What exactly does OP's pic say about reality?

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