>"i want to live in mindless mysticism"
Too bad reality and its laws are indeed intelligible thus ruining that man's wish for a chaotic world.
It is intelligible because God is reason, He wouldn't make a chaotic world.
For reaching true mysticism he need only pray to God and climb the ladder of sanctity. He doesnt want to, that's hard.
The material world is indeed an artifact though, the entirety of the universe is worth nothing compared to a single human soul.
Its here simply for us to know God and grow.
>the entirety of the universe is worth nothing compared to a single human soul.
Quantity over quality is what you're expressing here. This thinking is why there are a billion black Africans and 20 million Scandinavians
The purpose of both Africans and Scandinavians is to become saints.
The different circumstances they live in produces temptations they are to overcome, different virtues to be honed, thus creating a variety of exquisite flowers in God's garden.
Honestly? Yes. I do wish I lived in a world in which aspects of material reality weren't discernable and you would have to rely on faith to believe it exists.
Have you heard of dark matter btw?
The problem of being ignorant is that we are likely to worship trees and thunder in our awe for the beauty of creation. But those are pointers to God not God.
I dont follow physics much to be able to comment on that.
>I dont follow physics much to be able to comment on that.
A tldr then.
Models of the universe that exist currently cannot explain some processes that are occurring (such as the accelerating expansion of the universe).
So essentially it's now claimed that a completely undetectable matter called dark matter is what's causing it.
Honestly? Yes. I do wish I lived in a world in which aspects of material reality weren't discernable and you would have to rely on faith to believe it exists.
To this date, it is fascinating how fundamentally Semitic religion managed to appropriate the trapping of Greek thought and philosophy and ontologically claim it as their own. Each and every presupper have made the strangest slurry, the most quaint syncretism of whatever refuse comes of Athens. What idealist trickery shall Van Tilians appropriate next after Kant?
There's bible lines saying things are intelligible.
And there is no problem with the Greeks being correct about it nor with using everything truthful they had. Everything good and true was inspired by the Word so it belongs to the Christians - St.Justin Martyr said, referring to the Stoics and other philosophical points he admired.
Not him, but monotheism is ok with minor spirits and gods existing. It just recognizes that they're more akin to humans than to the eternal Creator, who is God.
>θεός is reason (Muh Logos)
To this date, it is fascinating how fundamentally Semitic religion managed to appropriate the trapping of Greek thought and philosophy and ontologically claim it as their own. Each and every presupper have made the strangest slurry, the most quaint syncretism of whatever refuse comes of Athens. What idealist trickery shall Van Tilians appropriate next after Kant?
You might be surprised to learn that Greeks didn't invent the idea of a word. And that Semites didn't invent the rest. Concepts and ideas were in public domain, that's why everyone has their own flood myths etc.
https://i.imgur.com/2naNXTC.jpg
You can't refute this
>[the world as a] product of God's making ... [is] about as living and mysterious as a thumbtack.
Mysticism is very readily accessible in monotheistic traditions. >"De-Godding"
De-godding. >"De-godding" ...[cedes] to the natural scientist
If you think science replaces the understanding that polytheists had, you don't understand what they had.
It really was good.
>"i want to live in mindless mysticism"
Too bad reality and its laws are indeed intelligible thus ruining that man's wish for a chaotic world.
It is intelligible because God is reason, He wouldn't make a chaotic world.
For reaching true mysticism he need only pray to God and climb the ladder of sanctity. He doesnt want to, that's hard.
The material world is indeed an artifact though, the entirety of the universe is worth nothing compared to a single human soul.
Its here simply for us to know God and grow.
>the entirety of the universe is worth nothing compared to a single human soul.
Quantity over quality is what you're expressing here. This thinking is why there are a billion black Africans and 20 million Scandinavians
The purpose of both Africans and Scandinavians is to become saints.
The different circumstances they live in produces temptations they are to overcome, different virtues to be honed, thus creating a variety of exquisite flowers in God's garden.
The problem of being ignorant is that we are likely to worship trees and thunder in our awe for the beauty of creation. But those are pointers to God not God.
I dont follow physics much to be able to comment on that.
>I dont follow physics much to be able to comment on that.
A tldr then.
Models of the universe that exist currently cannot explain some processes that are occurring (such as the accelerating expansion of the universe).
So essentially it's now claimed that a completely undetectable matter called dark matter is what's causing it.
Honestly? Yes. I do wish I lived in a world in which aspects of material reality weren't discernable and you would have to rely on faith to believe it exists.
Have you heard of dark matter btw?
>θεός is reason (Muh Logos)
To this date, it is fascinating how fundamentally Semitic religion managed to appropriate the trapping of Greek thought and philosophy and ontologically claim it as their own. Each and every presupper have made the strangest slurry, the most quaint syncretism of whatever refuse comes of Athens. What idealist trickery shall Van Tilians appropriate next after Kant?
There's bible lines saying things are intelligible.
And there is no problem with the Greeks being correct about it nor with using everything truthful they had. Everything good and true was inspired by the Word so it belongs to the Christians - St.Justin Martyr said, referring to the Stoics and other philosophical points he admired.
>And there is no problem with the Greeks being correct about it nor with using everything truthful they had.
So Christianity is sitting on the pagan Greek lap.
If that's your cope of choice, sure. We're sitting on the lap of the people we defeated and surpassed in every regard lmao
Certainly, the creation of the heavens and the earth is greater than the creation of mankind; but most people do not know this
>mystery
I can
Monotheism is not the idea that only one God exists, it's the worship of only one God
>Monotheism is not the idea that only one God exists
Yes it is, faithless.
Not him, but monotheism is ok with minor spirits and gods existing. It just recognizes that they're more akin to humans than to the eternal Creator, who is God.
You might be surprised to learn that Greeks didn't invent the idea of a word. And that Semites didn't invent the rest. Concepts and ideas were in public domain, that's why everyone has their own flood myths etc.
>[the world as a] product of God's making ... [is] about as living and mysterious as a thumbtack.
Mysticism is very readily accessible in monotheistic traditions.
>"De-Godding"
De-godding.
>"De-godding" ...[cedes] to the natural scientist
If you think science replaces the understanding that polytheists had, you don't understand what they had.
Psalm 82
Exodus 21:6 says to bring slaves before a pantheon? Where was that?
Based, I knew you'd submit to Arianism eventually
Is it the same Anon all over IQfy accusing everyone of Arianism and hoping it will land one day? Or are there more of you?
If it smells like shit everywhere you should probably check your shoes.
>Science eats up spirituality
Yeah, totally didn't happen under polytheism, never heard of Plato, Aristotle etc.
Aristotle refuted polytheism tho, at best his philosophy leaves room for henotheism.
Aristotle's philosophy ate up a good chunk of what would normally be purely religious domains, but I'm not so sure that he refuted polytheism.