You have a shitty pc?

Imagine for a moment, you have an old laptop from around 2010. It has a celeron, 2gigs of ram AND a slow drive. The main thing you want to do on it is using firefox (without 10+ tabs), watch/listen to some media and maybe some office tasks.

what would be the most lightweight distro for accomplishing this? It shouldn't look completely ass like xubuntu, so some themeability or good looks would be appreciated. Sry for the blogpost IQfyentooman, this is not my main board

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://notes.valdikss.org.ru/linux-for-old-pc-from-2007/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      interesting, thank you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Very cool article.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      could you theoretically upgrade Mint afterwards without breaking the configuration?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        most of the important and necessary tweaks emphasis on kernel

    • 1 month ago
      I think .17hmr is really cool.

      I am an expert on this.
      Here are some:

      LXLE
      MXLinux
      Slax
      Bunsen Labs
      SliTaz
      AntiX Linux
      Damn Small Linux
      Puppy Linux

      I'd prefer LXLE for a more full desktop experience or Puppy if you need to go wicked light but are okay with maybe tweaking settings to get certain things how you want them.

      You can always upgrade a IDE drive to flash memory speeds by replacing it with a IDE-to-CF adapter and using a CF card in place of the hard drive.

      This is wrong because you can still use the web on 32 bits if you're not an idiot trying to use terrible web sites like Facebook and YouTube.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >expert
        >This is wrong because you can still use the web on 32 bits if you're not an idiot trying to use terrible web sites like Facebook and YouTube.
        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        [...]

        read into tweaks, only uses preconfigured distros with kernels barely tuned for niche hardware
        >>>>>>>>>>>>muh 32bit
        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        [...]

        listed doesn't support extra extensions, only the bare minimum (i386) doesnt take advantage cpu at all (MOVBE, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3) <- Intel Atom N280 mind you..
        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        [...]


        install gentoo

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I have used AntiX on very old PCs even shittier than yours with great results.
        It is made by antifa filth but it works.

        Puppy imo is a bit too lightweight, to the point that it limits its practical use as daily drive.
        MX isn't lightweight enough for OP's computer. Just get antix, its MX without the bloat.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Puppy imo is a bit too lightweight
          This is a nonsensical statement. Its packed with software

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Puppy imo is a bit too lightweight
          This is a nonsensical statement. Its packed with software

          Just checked Puppy isos seems to be around a few hundred megabytes...
          I could almost swear that it was barebones trash two digits in size.
          After a little bit googling I realized I confused it with Tiny Core Linux.
          Ooops, I withdraw that part of my comment.
          I believe I tried puppy too but I don't remember it well enough to comment.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's all good everyone makes mistakes

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i recently upgraded to a ryzen 5 7600 from an i5-4590 and nothing has changed at all about my computing experience except a kernel warning on boot which is only patched in 6.8. it's hard to put into words but cheap low spec builds are comfier

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Arch with Xfce, cannot go more barebones than this. I have picrel and it works great

      Based

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Arch with Xfce, cannot go more barebones than this.
        a WM instead of xfce

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          OP said that this is not his main board so I doubt he even knows what they are

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah you could go with dwm or i3 perhaps but OP doesn't want "ass looking". He seems like a normie, i3 prob scares him

    • 1 month ago
      sage

      I have a t61 and I have a desktop with a 10900k and a 2080ti and I literally use the laptop for 90% of my browsing and watching media kek. I can't explain it either but it's more enjoyable for me for some reason.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >i5-4590
      That motherfricker lasted me 8 years.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        same lmao, my i5-4590 with a GTX 970 lasted since 2015~ up until this January. Probably could last me a few more if I'm being honest.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    using such a shitty computer in 2024 is literally a humiliation ritual. you cant even afford a normal $500 pc because you are that cucked and used to abuse. stop letting yourself get humiliated by israelites morons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >using such a shitty computer in 2024 is literally an impressive skill display you can brag about
      There, friend. I fixed it for you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nearly described my current laptop. Not even a poorgay anymore, could easily afford a new one but don't feel like it coz it just werkz and I hate configuring stuff. I want to almost forget what distro I'm running and just do my shit.
      Sorry for not really answering your question, but how I've usually dealt with old hardware is a minimal Debian install and working up from there, only installing what I need. It's bothersome especially if the process is unfamiliar, but somehow I always faced more problems with fuller distros. I'm sure I've spent at least as much time on search engines solving problems with more complete distro installs than setting up a simple debian. Maybe it's about minimizing the points of potential failure, I dunno.

      Growing up broke and literally getting all my hardware from the dumpster is ironically why I'm making such good money right now. None of my peers whose families could just afford "a normal pc" and run windows from the get go are at this level. Even the ones working in software lack the respect for resources so much that they really don't see a problem with simple webpages taking tens of megabytes just to display a set of images and text.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Using a shitty laptop can be very useful as a secondary computer, especially when there is a blackout or a storm

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. $500 takes you pretty far with used and refurbished stuff. My current laptop is an old i5 that came with a hard disk. Doubling the RAM and swapping it out for an SSD for less than 500 including cost of the laptop was a no brainer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's only a humiliation ritual if you are BIPOCattle. Just refuse to use services that humuliate you like the free man you are

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you must consoom goy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's how you spot Pajeets. They can't get anything else

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    debian stable with xfce or lxqt. they will look like ass by default but you can rice them however you want.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Slax on your picrel is good enough. i have several shitty pre-2010 netbooks that uses Broadcom B43 wifi that most distros dont support because "muh non-free wifi reee" but Slax includes them. old version of Puppy also works well. i would use both in RAM mode loaded from SD card to skip the slow drive.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thanks for the input anon 🙂

      using such a shitty computer in 2024 is literally a humiliation ritual. you cant even afford a normal $500 pc because you are that cucked and used to abuse. stop letting yourself get humiliated by israelites morons

      well, I own a mid-range PC but I had this laptop laying around for some time that I wanted to put to good use. I've used mint before, but loading firefox made everything unbearable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly you can try connecting to the desktop from the laptop over rdp and use it that way

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Debian with lxde

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    try mint
    if that doesn't work try something else

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've tried Mint (XFCE) on my shitty Celeron with 2GB RAM a couple of years ago...

      i remember it running worse than Ubuntu
      (this was before i switched to Debian)

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Devuan, Artix, Void, or Alpine running a lightweight wm (windowmaker, icewm, dwm, openbox, bspwn.)
    I guess Voids XFCE image could work well enough. I recommend a non-systemd distro since they're much more lightweight and snappier than systemd based ones.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i have this shitty PC for testing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      neat
      8/10

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >8 cores
      >quadro
      >24gb ram
      >"""""""shitty""

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        its a faildozer anon. its not 8 cores. its 4 cores at best and its ipc is that of intel core 2 duo series. its absolute horseshit. it was horseshit at release. clock for clock, its ipc was worse than amd's own PREVIOUS phenom series.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Now compare the usability to a literally brand new mini pc with an N95 and tell me again how shitty it is.

          Pic related for actual e-waste tier.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I have a garbo machine at home when an AMD-A4 6320 dual core, a R7 240 and 8GB DDR3
            honestly if it had a SSD it would be usable for web browsing and shit like that

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Absolutely. That R7 is even just barely new enough to use amdgpu on Linux.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I have it plugged to my TV at the moment, but I don't really use it since it's limited to 30Hz at 4k sadly
            I use it to try new distros sometimes without nuking my main machine (I think it has Nix installed at the moment but I haven't booted it in months)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wallpaper plz?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        OP here, thinking of making a general out of this type of thread

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Artix/Arch/Gentoo+DWM

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    kinda feels like neofetch shouldn't just be givin out usernames and hostnames like candy innit

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I DO have a shitty ass laptop with a Celeron and 2GB of RAM

    I've been using DEBIAN 11 on that thing (MATE and XFCE run pretty well)

    I strongly recommend to use yt-dlp to download video from youtube, and then watch it using mpv

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Look into ytfzf

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The command line application to search and watch youtube videos?
        I already tried that... it ran kinda slow

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Works fine for me but ok

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That sounds reasonable.

      I used a Thinkpad X60s in uni for a while because comfy. Debian + LXDE worked like a charm. When writing essays I used to have background music playlists downloaded.

      Downloading videos as opposed to watching them online is a great suggestion for media.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      SOPA.
      BASED TABLET BOARD ENJOYER POSITIVO GREATEST OF ALL.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP if it's not your only machine, learn to use ssh and X11 forwarding. Dumpster laptops make great thin clients.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      gotta look into it. many thanks

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I suspect arch is not the best for this usecase and you will be happier with a stable debian distro. Go with a barebones installation and then add xorg and a tiny window manager like blackbox or something. Add firefox and see if you can get hardware acceleration to work if there is any.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    -Debian with some light DE like XFCE or LXQT
    -peppermint
    -crunchbag++
    -bunsenlab
    -tinycore (only use it if you are hardcore tinkering autist)

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My daily is an x220 (which I think is from 2012). Running Mint XFCE and a SSD and it works fantastically.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    feck off, this shitty ass laptop is still usable

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why does your plasma looks so nice? theme says its stock, but my stock looks different?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >It shouldn't look completely ass like xubuntu
    frick off, xubuntu is extremely comfy, i used it in my cr-48

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Damn small linux 2024
    TinyCore Plus
    Puppy
    Slitaz
    These are your best bets. anyone saying things like mint or X ubuntu or Whatever is wrong and uninformed

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >celeron, 2gigs of ram AND a slow drive
    >It shouldn't look completely ass like xubuntu, so some themeability or good looks would be appreciated
    that computer is a literal toaster anon
    why the frick do you care about themeability
    you should be glad it works AT ALL
    lubuntu is probably your best choice
    yes, it looks like ass but it works

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have a Vaio with a Celeron, I use XP on it. Sadly network card got fried while a thunderstorm, and the wifi on turns on and off randomly (I'm asuming it's probably on the same daughter board and got fricked too).

    If neworking worked I'd probably use it, but I have no idea if it's fixable. It has one of those not PCMCIA slots that I could use for a network card I guess, but from what I searched they're rare and expensive, and a usb wifi dongle is just slow.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      honestly, I would just go for the usb wifi/lan dongle with your case. And using xp really isn't that great. Look at OP, try Slax because it actually doesn't suck

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Solus 4.5 has an XFCE edition, it's currently in beta but it's working really well, we rolled it out on our 13-year old library PCs and it's snappier than those on win7/win10

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >try to bring up installing loonix on the PCs in our library
      >director immediately vetoes the idea
      >bring it up again outside the meeting and explain how it's totally free and we'd be saving money by switching
      >"our users are all old people, do you think they know what any of that is?"
      >"to be fair, they don't even know the PCs now, which is why i need to help so often"
      >still says no, that things are working fine
      When our license starts reaching end of life, I will try again...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you're the IT guy, try rolling it out first on just a couple PCs, if the users don't like it you can always say it's just for testing, and if they do like it then over time it becomes more acceptable for the admin to switch over the rest of the computers

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I still have a Samsung ATIV Book 2 from 2014, with 4GB of RAM and a quad-core proccessor, Intel i3, as my main machine. It runs Ubuntu 20.04 LTS just fine, should I upgrade later this year? To what?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >should I upgrade later this year?
      Probably
      >To what?
      Depends on how much money you have.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It runs Ubuntu 20.04 LTS just fine
      >just fine
      >should I upgrade later this year?
      No, unless you're a coomsumer

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I use Bodhi Linux on a 10 year old laptop with a POS processor and it works decently well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      to be honest anything above 2.5 gb ram is comfy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        2GB is easily usable with zram. OP could slap a $10 chink SSD in that thing for a major upgrade, and probably easily double the ram too. Diminishing returns if there are better used machines to be found for the same money.
        I'd argue almost any x64 machine is still usable today with only minor tuning. Especially if it can do hardware video decoding.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >usable
          Define this. For what?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Everything the OP mentioned. A shitposting machine.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kiss Linux, custom kernel, -Os, 2Bwm, zram, yt-dlp, mpv, netsurf, emacs, etc. I recommend adding a cheap ssd it really makes a difference.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >It shouldn't look completely ass like xubuntu
    anon literally just install a gtk theme... xfce is one of the most customizable DEs, if it looks like ass you either kept the defaults or didn't even try to make it comfy to you

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Buy a $100 Thinkpad and put something Arc or Debian/Ubuntu based on it

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Constraints breed creativity. That wouldn't be so bad. Actually, I think I have too much horsepower for my usage. I need to cut my wings to unleash my true self.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My laptop from 2009 had an i7 and 8 GB RAM

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You have a shitty pc?

    mitigations=off

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, just use common sense

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, just use common sense

      Dubs and trips

      >Why are people afraid of pointing out the fact that browsers on desktops are HEAVY software?
      Everyone knows, but it's chromium or firefox, unfortunately

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why are people afraid of pointing out the fact that browsers on desktops are HEAVY software? That is part because they are written badly, part because the web spec is bloated as frick and completed, part because you users expect pages to render shit with dozens of layers of shadows and 2d gpu contexts, and part because web devs are idiots that will simply not accept the fact that the web was objectively more usable from a design point of view in the mid 00s than what it is today.

    OP, browsers are heavy. No lightweight DE is ever going to make your toaster handle FF well. What do you think does a DE do when you run a program? Like do you think its computing shit when you are not interacting with it? That's not how it works.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >multithreaded
      >gpu accelerated
      Basically a game.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Why are people afraid of pointing out the fact that browsers on desktops are HEAVY software?
      Everyone knows, but it's chromium or firefox, unfortunately

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why not spend $25 to get 4GB of RAM and a 240+GB SSD, if you don't already have one lying around? It will make it a lot more usable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      some celeron series dont support more than 2gb. at this point he might as well buy some $100 laptop on ebay, because most have an ssd and +4gigs

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Low end laptops are way underrated. Modern ones get really good battery life even when gaming. Also touchpads are way better now if you prefer those over nubs.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    LXQT with arch.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Devuan will run fine. Maybe try using a lighter browser than Firefox, or don't have 20+ tabs open at once, but 2 GB of RAM is probably the biggest chokepoint of your system. Upgrading to 4GB if possible would be the best way to spend your pocket money.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all of this effort to make Linux use less than 50mb just to open one tab in firefox and make ram go up to 500MB
    What are the browser alternatives for useful internet browsing (support for js etc)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >semi usable
      Palemoon
      >properly usable
      Firefox

      That's about it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      none, read

      Why are people afraid of pointing out the fact that browsers on desktops are HEAVY software? That is part because they are written badly, part because the web spec is bloated as frick and completed, part because you users expect pages to render shit with dozens of layers of shadows and 2d gpu contexts, and part because web devs are idiots that will simply not accept the fact that the web was objectively more usable from a design point of view in the mid 00s than what it is today.

      OP, browsers are heavy. No lightweight DE is ever going to make your toaster handle FF well. What do you think does a DE do when you run a program? Like do you think its computing shit when you are not interacting with it? That's not how it works.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Falkon
      Otter browser
      Midori
      Badwolf
      SeaMonkey
      Netsurf
      Epiphany

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    couldn't you run firefox in gamescope in tty
    no desktop

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Gamescope is for GUI apps

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