>Vim never took noticeable time for anything for me.
That's the fricking joke, kek.
Even for power users, the feedback is instantaneous.
https://i.imgur.com/X1CdyfB.jpg
Why should I ditch good old vim for this? Redpill me.
Want my opinion OP? Stick to fricking Vim.
I won't say Neovim is for trannies, but it's certainly for babies who want to write their config in the infantile language called Lua.
Moreover, here are some other stuff I've seen these frickers do: > let add nerd tree and make it open with cmd+W > lets add buffers to be opened with cmd+T and tab them > also need a built in terminal (pure moronation) > coc, lsp, treesitter
These mofos are just trying to build a VS Code inside of Neovim.
That is what makes them midwits i.e. they have the intelligence to use Vim but lack the wisdom hence Neovim.
The end product is a badly patched together monstrosity of an editor that's only slightly faster than VS Code.
> let add nerd tree and make it open with cmd+W
I never bothered with nerdtree in vim, :tabe . always sufficed. > lets add buffers to be opened with cmd+T and tab them
Can't they use :e? > also need a built in terminal (pure moronation)
Let's use a tabbed terminal emulator in which you have tmux running in which you have neovim running in which you have a terminal emulator. Wtf, just use ! > coc, lsp, treesitter
Lsp is the only intriguing thing tbh
> let add nerd tree and make it open with cmd+W > lets add buffers to be opened with cmd+T and tab them > also need a built in terminal (pure moronation) > coc, lsp, treesitter
I don't understand this shit. If you're going to bloat your editor with all this bullshit why not just use Emacs instead?
>better configs, more theme options, based, just try it, very redpill >better configs
nope >more theme options
who cares, you pick one and use it and that's it, just use solarized8 and be done with it >based
this means nothing >just try it
no >very redpill
this means nothing
so basically neovim provides nothing new, no reason to switch
The only actual reason to use Vim is the modal editing. No one actually likes the technical aspects of it.
These days even Emacs is a better Vim than Vim.
Dunno how the difference is now, but when I switched some years back >some features are faster >better defaults >small QOL stuff ( | cursor in insert mode instead of _ / block, bold / italic if I recall correctly) - it's possible that vim could do those things too, all I know that neovim did them ootb and vim did not >probably some other stuff I don't remember
It's not a groundbreaking difference, but it is (or was, when I switched) a small but noticeable improvement in some ways.
They're really not different enough to spend too much time deciding whether you want to use it or not. If you use a plugin manager, just copy your vimrc and try it for a bit, it will cost you less effort than you waste in this tread.
works well with mouse in my experience (select stuff for copying, placing the cursor). though you 99% of the time are using only the keyboard, and sometimes via ssh so no mouse. but when you need it, it works with nvim
also seems to look better and work better in my experience. but i don't have any other examples. i used to use only vim until a colleague showed me neovim, been using it ever since, works a lot better imo. but just use vim if you want to be a dinosaur, nothing with that either
If you're already happy with your configuration there's really no reason to switch.
If you're using any plugins that feel slow it might be worth checking for Neovim equivalents since they'll usually run faster due to Lua, but that's about it.
IMO Neovim's biggest contribution isn't the software itself, but the fact that they've forced Bram to get off his ass and make long-requested changes to Vim so it can stay competitive.
better configs, more theme options, based, just try it, very redpill
What theme is missing for you?
Vim never took noticeable time for anything for me. Maybe I'm not a power user?
>Vim never took noticeable time for anything for me.
That's the fricking joke, kek.
Even for power users, the feedback is instantaneous.
Want my opinion OP? Stick to fricking Vim.
I won't say Neovim is for trannies, but it's certainly for babies who want to write their config in the infantile language called Lua.
Moreover, here are some other stuff I've seen these frickers do:
> let add nerd tree and make it open with cmd+W
> lets add buffers to be opened with cmd+T and tab them
> also need a built in terminal (pure moronation)
> coc, lsp, treesitter
These mofos are just trying to build a VS Code inside of Neovim.
That is what makes them midwits i.e. they have the intelligence to use Vim but lack the wisdom hence Neovim.
The end product is a badly patched together monstrosity of an editor that's only slightly faster than VS Code.
> let add nerd tree and make it open with cmd+W
I never bothered with nerdtree in vim, :tabe . always sufficed.
> lets add buffers to be opened with cmd+T and tab them
Can't they use :e?
> also need a built in terminal (pure moronation)
Let's use a tabbed terminal emulator in which you have tmux running in which you have neovim running in which you have a terminal emulator. Wtf, just use !
> coc, lsp, treesitter
Lsp is the only intriguing thing tbh
>only slightly faster than VS Code
C'mon.
> let add nerd tree and make it open with cmd+W
> lets add buffers to be opened with cmd+T and tab them
> also need a built in terminal (pure moronation)
> coc, lsp, treesitter
I don't understand this shit. If you're going to bloat your editor with all this bullshit why not just use Emacs instead?
cause it looks cool xP
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None of theses are good reasons to use neovim
>better configs, more theme options, based, just try it, very redpill
>better configs
nope
>more theme options
who cares, you pick one and use it and that's it, just use solarized8 and be done with it
>based
this means nothing
>just try it
no
>very redpill
this means nothing
so basically neovim provides nothing new, no reason to switch
You shouldn't. Neovim is exclusively for trannies.
it's blazing fast
https://github.com/henriquehbr/lua-vs-vimscript
vim script got updated recently, promising a 10x-100x times speed up
it doesn't matter, because why would anyone want to write anything in vimscript...
Neovim is only popular because nobody wants to write vimscript. Apart from that they're interchangeable.
because of LSP support?
how do you jump definition or rename variables in vanilla vim?
you should ditch zoomer vim for vi
> no stupid ~/.vim
> lua integration
you shouldn't
the only real benefit over vim is lsp support and even that implementation sucks compared to emacs lsp-mode or vscode
>vscode
neovim/nvim-lspconfig presets set it up exactly as vscode
3 letters: lua
Looks better than vim
same functionality, but looks better
There's no comparison.
Vim is for quick edits. Neovim is a full fledged code editor. Assuming you install something like nvchad.
The only actual reason to use Vim is the modal editing. No one actually likes the technical aspects of it.
These days even Emacs is a better Vim than Vim.
vimscript is atrocious to deal with compared to lua so nobody makes new plugins in it anymore. that's it, neovim won the tard race.
2 words: Dracula Pro
Dunno how the difference is now, but when I switched some years back
>some features are faster
>better defaults
>small QOL stuff ( | cursor in insert mode instead of _ / block, bold / italic if I recall correctly) - it's possible that vim could do those things too, all I know that neovim did them ootb and vim did not
>probably some other stuff I don't remember
It's not a groundbreaking difference, but it is (or was, when I switched) a small but noticeable improvement in some ways.
They're really not different enough to spend too much time deciding whether you want to use it or not. If you use a plugin manager, just copy your vimrc and try it for a bit, it will cost you less effort than you waste in this tread.
works well with mouse in my experience (select stuff for copying, placing the cursor). though you 99% of the time are using only the keyboard, and sometimes via ssh so no mouse. but when you need it, it works with nvim
also seems to look better and work better in my experience. but i don't have any other examples. i used to use only vim until a colleague showed me neovim, been using it ever since, works a lot better imo. but just use vim if you want to be a dinosaur, nothing with that either
If you're already happy with your configuration there's really no reason to switch.
If you're using any plugins that feel slow it might be worth checking for Neovim equivalents since they'll usually run faster due to Lua, but that's about it.
IMO Neovim's biggest contribution isn't the software itself, but the fact that they've forced Bram to get off his ass and make long-requested changes to Vim so it can stay competitive.
Nothing wrong with vim dude. Leave as is.
Neovim for coding, vim for editing config files or whatever.
Its a good arrangement.
Literally fricking why? Just use one or the other.
try lunarvim, pretty good.
I don't know lua, seems like a pretty gay language, but the config is awesome right off the bat.
nvimt-qt doesn't have the stupid border bug as opposed to gvim.