Your favorite bootloader? GRUB, Limine, rEFInd, or systemd-boot?

Your favorite bootloader? GRUB, Limine, rEFInd, or systemd-boot?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which one is fastest?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well I don't know. That's why I made a thread.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    booting the kernel directly with efistub is the fastest.
    if you really need a bootloader, then use systemd-boot since it's bloat-free.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does systemd-boot have an option for saving the last selected menu entry and starting with it selected the next boot? I need it for Windows.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Answering my own question: yes, it does.
        >default
        >A glob pattern to select the default entry.
        >If set to "@saved" the chosen entry will be saved as an EFI variable on every boot and automatically selected the next time the boot loader starts.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I dont know how to setup the swap file with efistub

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I dont know how to setup the swap file with efistub

      >Just learned about EFI stub today

      Why have i been wasting my time on anything else all these years?

      How do you even setup efistub?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You need to set it as an option when compiling the kernel.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    syslinux

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Interestingly, Nigeria has a similar homicide rate, 21.7 per 100k.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Nigeria

        Use it's proper name anon. Black personia.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Black personia
          Isn't that just Baltimore?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      syslinux
      https://github.com/alpinelinux/alpine-conf/blob/f976aafa3426b003cdd6e26d32d173057f98be44/setup-disk.in/#L1444

      booting the kernel directly with efistub is the fastest.
      if you really need a bootloader, then use systemd-boot since it's bloat-free.

      cancer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is that michael foucoo?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does this include police that murder civilians?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That would be tiny. Total homicides by police are something like 1000 per year, and most of that is justified (so not murder).

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >officer-involved shooting

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fwiw the number cited for finland here does not appear in any statfi publication i could find, with homicides in general being under 2/100,000 every year since 2009 and averaging 1.34 between 2010 and 2022
      gun homicides in 2022 totalled 10 + 107 suicides in a population of 5.56 million
      other numbers found in published research for firearm homicides specifically, varying in year reported, floated around 0.5 and 1.5
      either someone included suicides in the homicide rate in this image or the figures are entirely made up, in either case i would not trust any figures herein whatsoever as they are clearly inaccurate

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ytboi what is dis Linux shii
      >*injects fentanyl* my MacBook I "borrowed" from sum ytboi *hits bong* works jus fine n shii who needs dis *takes a bite out of fried chicken followed by watermelon* hacka ass shii *punches and stomps someone to death over words* ytboi
      >I ain't *makes gang sign* usin dis complicated *shoots someone* shii ytboi

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >/pol/troon "comedy"
        heh

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's not comedy if it's all true albeit

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hey, I laughed at it, you inbred hick frick.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            projecting albeit

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    grub, it has never failed me. To be honest, I reboot maybe 12 times a year on average.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >12 times a year
      You mean 0.033333 times a day?

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Grub 2.0 because it is the best one, and everything else is just someone having a paddy and wanting choice for choices sake

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    efi-stub

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Built-in shell + startup.nsh

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EFISTUB is only an option when not dual booting, right?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, each system can add its own efi entry and you can use the motherboard firmware (or the efibootmgr utility) to choose the next one to boot or modify their default order like you used to do with drives in BIOS times

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're telling me there are 3 layers now? Instead of BIOS's
        1. Motherboard's boot device selection
        2. Bootloader's boot entry selection
        It's this in EFI?
        1. Motherboard's boot device selection
        2. Motherboard's bootloader selection
        3. Bootloader's boot entry selection

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In your UEFI example, 1 and 2 are the same thing.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks, I think I get it now.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like Ventoy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      where can I get it, mate?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At Tesco.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It just a customized ventoy
        proof is left bottom corner

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GNU Grub, it works and works really well, systemd-boot is fine but I like grub's ability to use themes and wallpapers so I didn't use it that much.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      grub also supports pc speaker output so you can make your computer beep amogus every time you turn it on if you eant your neighbours to hate you

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Windows Boot Manager

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    efistub

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the point of a bootloader? I can post on IRC from UEFI. I don't need an operating system, let alone a bootloader to start it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can you shitpost on IQfy from UEFI too?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    systemd boot

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the use case of bootloaders?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fractional pixels don't exist.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      loading bit booties

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    LILO

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    das uboot

  19. 2 weeks ago
    earez

    EFISTUB to Arch Linux

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What ever works, I usually just use what comes with my distro. When I used Arch I used GRUB until the whole fiasco where Arch broke it, then I started to use systemd-boot.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Using grub in graphical mode has horrible input lag on my laptop for some reason. Like a full 2 seconds between a keypress and the cursor moving. I used text mode for a bit, but then i switched to syslinux, which just works.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BasedstemD is what I use, Limine is cool because it's minimal but only supports ext file systems, rEFInd can be cool and useful, GRUB is just bloated

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Grub
    >well documented
    >shit easy
    >weeks 200% of the time
    >millions must boot!
    also, libre. I'd like to hear one of these homosexuals describe why it's "bloated".

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do 4chingz users even realize they're chimps with keyboards? i don't think they do. fricking keyboard monkeys.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the end, we are all monkeys with keyboards.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >we are all monkeys
        I am not a monkey.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Systemd-boot has been pretty cool in the distros I've used it on. I'm waiting for openSUSE support for it (better than now)

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    XOSL
    because on my old rig, I can boot DOS, 98SE, 2000, XP, 7, all from a single physical drive

    otherwise, IDK, lilo I guess

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    zfsbootmanager

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Redpill us on zfsbootmanager. What does it do?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Shell 88%
      Idk, sounds good but I'm a bit apprehensive about that.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    grub, perfect

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's honestly systemd-boot.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've used grub for 15 years. It just works.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Grub for ISO booting
    >Grub for PXE booting
    >Grub for UEFI booting
    >Grub for BIOS booting
    It just works.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Limine boot protocol is so cool. Probably won't catch on, thoughbeit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are there multiple people on this board that think that's an actual word or is it just you?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hello newfriend

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use rEFInd, I like it

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    systemd-boot. I chose it because I love other software from the systemd project, and I trust them to make good decisions.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    systemd-boot, which I only ever remember as "gummiboot"

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    syslinux on legacy bios, systemd-boot on uefi.
    special case goes to using grub with libreboot because of full disk encryption shenanigans.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    efi stub

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >install OS-Proper into GRUB
    >linux drive loses encryption passphrase and can't unlock it anymore

    DO NOT USE OS-PROPER. IT WILL BREAK YOUR ENCRYPTION. JUST USE WINDOWS THROUGH WINDOWS BOOT MANAGER

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is OS Proper? Is this some distro?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's so grub can recognize Windows (and maybe MacOS) partitions to boot from

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, you mean os-prober. That's weird, I use it with encryption and it works.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >drive loses encryption passphrase
      doubt.jpg

      grub randomly breaks and so I have a line in my configuration.nix reminding me every time I rebuild that I need to move my server off it

      >grub randomly breaks
      Only when you're a moron like the poster above and have absolutely no clue about what consequences your actions will have.
      Grub never breaks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-prober

      https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=os-prober

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice pointless links!
        Now post the direct link to a bug report where os-prober (or GRUB) breaks LUKS.

        Yeah I have the same issue. Grub can be kinda annoying but it's the easiest to just go with.
        [...]
        cope

        >I have the same issue
        Two (of the 10 existing) Nixtards having the same issues? Surely it must be because of GRUB, there is not other commonality between these!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1st link - ctrl+f "luks" 0/0
          2nd link - 1/1
          https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=801769

          you were saying? (since you were too moronic to literally ctrl+f)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >os-prober does not list connected LUKS encrypted partitions
            >2015
            moron.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          worked on my machime, now i just use efistub

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    grub randomly breaks and so I have a line in my configuration.nix reminding me every time I rebuild that I need to move my server off it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I have the same issue. Grub can be kinda annoying but it's the easiest to just go with.

      >drive loses encryption passphrase
      doubt.jpg

      [...]
      >grub randomly breaks
      Only when you're a moron like the poster above and have absolutely no clue about what consequences your actions will have.
      Grub never breaks.

      cope

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    efistub

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    systemd-stub

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GRUB because it's the best Libreboot payload, and most others don't support BIOS.
    There is no good open source UEFI implementation.
    >but muh TianoCore!
    https://libreboot.org/docs/bsd/#dubious-mention-tianocore

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    grub

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use GRUB2, but only with BIOS/MBR booting, UEFI can kiss my ass.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not PXE everywhere
      Lame.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Just learned about EFI stub today

    Why have i been wasting my time on anything else all these years?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wasting my time
      If you boot enough to for these thread to matter then it doesn't matter.

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