now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
why are owners leaving this thing in a drawer, collecting dust like every other VR headset?
now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
why are owners leaving this thing in a drawer, collecting dust like every other VR headset?
>why are owners leaving this thing in a drawer, collecting dust like every other VR headset?
the iButtplug wouldnt pair, i.e. its useless
goonvision pro
This.
When children misbehave it’s because they are stupid. When adults misbehave it’s because they are evil. Know the difference. Grow up.
Ouch!
I use it infinitely more than any of my other vr headsets. I use it more than my phone now. It’s a better device than reviewers even understand. I’ve been into vr since the rift s and this thing is a whole new ballgame
what are your thought on it anon? I'm interested
not him, but its a gimmick
The design philosophy and the philosophy of use are just so much more cohesive than all the jank that current vr headsets are. There was a vision they executed on here rather than an amalgamation of features. I bought it fully expecting to return it, and it just blew me away. I don’t even have a Mac and am no fanboy. But I just immediately preferred this to being on my pc or tv or phone. It’s a superior device. It’s like a portable multi monitor setup. The ergonomics of having a battle station where ever you are can’t be overstated. The comfort to me is along the lines of wearing over ear headphones. And that’s all before even mentioning the displays which are just again on another level. These are gonna be a thing, and I will always own the newest one so long as they keep making them. 10/10
prove you have it
> not showing this thread in Safari
fake af bro
I was trying to show that I don’t own a mac
> reddit tabs
wew, into le trash
> what went wrong?
no software
very little advertising/promotion
poorly designed
> apple reddit homosexual
you need to go back.
Let’s see your Vision Pro oh wait..
why would i want to buy such poorly created cancer built by Californian pedophiles? i bought a decent car recently for same amount of money. the seething of you itoddler pedophiles (and rampant compulsive lying) is hilariously comical. when you livestream your suicide, please post links here so we can all have a good laugh.
Lmao let’s see ur car. Post it
> lmao
when is the suicide livestream, ipedophile marketing prostitute?
>apple vision bro
>apple subreddit tab
>twitter tab
>youtube tab
gross
>cat
based
cute cat
gurellia marketing gem
consider switching to cassava litter. its so much cleaner.
>that jannies are hiding gems from you ad on vision pro UI
Lost
>jannies are hiding gems
Did you know that ad is actually accurate? If you mention the name of that cryptocurrency, at least on IQfy you will get banned. Even though it appears to be a legit project, as far as cryptocurrencies go. It's not even a memecoin, although in a way maybe this all makes it one.
>jannies allow ads for things you can't talk about
The mind of a janitor is a mysterious thing indeed.
>spent $3500 on a shitty toy instead of trying to get better flooring.
ngmi
That is considered relatively premium flooring in shitmerica btw.
I live in Louisiana and I have better flooring than that.
That's because Louisiana is based.
t. live in Canada and have flooring exactly like that
>That's because Louisiana is based.
I take it you've never been to Louisiana?
Still, I find it shocking, people have carpeted flooring. Fricking hate that shit.
Yeah, I've never been but in my headcanon the whole place is le based bayou, cajun cookin', swap magic, weird french accent-havin', gator-infested all around interesting and cool area.
kute kot
What apps they have right now? Can I use VScode for example or at least any IDE?
bumping for answers, what kinda cool apps does VisionOS have now? Serious question
why would you want that?
dude imaging coding on the go or like at any spot at home? I was dreaming about this for sooo long, also remove all the useless shit on my desk - like mouse, keyboard monitor... this shitboxes eating space...
If it can run at least VScode, I would buy it!
Even if it’s not a native app you can remote into whatever, run a 4k or even 8k virtual display. Buy it and code while shitting.
>code while shitting
My shitting time has been dedicated to posting here for years, sometimes opening IQfyg triggers bowel movement, it's Pavlovian.
nice, I'm going to get in store and test it, but it sounds rly good so far
that stupid fricking ad
Lmao you guys keep saying this. You think a trillion dollar company gives a shit about this hell hole?
If they release new airpods pro with usb C and improve audio response, I might but a vision pro just so I can get virtual surround sound working.
they did a silent revision of airpods pro gen 2 that are usb-c, lossless(only with vision pro), and have no latency, im using my vision pro with them rn and its great. the spatial audio on apple music is crazy
>The design philosophy and the philosophy of use
sounds like bullshit
Go buy one I dare you. You wont return it. It’ll just werk!
Maybe it just werks but people don't NEED THIS CLASS OF DEVICE.
It's a stupid headset.
>portable multi monitor setup
Which sounds useful until you try to manipulate those monitors and you just end up flailing like a fricking moron until the system understands what you wanted to fricking do.
Go try one. You will be pleasantly surprised how truly intuitive and easy window manipulation is. It all becomes second nature. Imo being anti headset is akin to being anti headphone and saying speakers are all that you’ll ever use.
>Go try one. You will be pleasantly surprised how truly intuitive and easy window manipulation is
Why would I? I already have 2 monitors for my desktop windows 11 PC, a 3090, tons of steam games, a tv in the same room hooked up to a PS5 with tons of games
Me too. Thie Vision Pro is better. Also you can use ur 4090 in here too with moonlight/sunshine
the AVP gives you a minimum latency of 10ms and again, you will be gaming flalt, just "spatially", meaning there is no benefit and you just get latency and discomfort from having to wear the headset
Pcvr stuff is being worked on rn and looks promising. As far as input lag it feels pretty rock solid. Not noticeable on controller anyways.
>10ms lag
>not noticable
yeah right, try playing any multiplayer game at high level
>NOO, YOU CAN'T PLAY PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL IN THOSE SNEAKERS.
lmao
I've played rhythm games over airlink @ 120hz and I can't fault it
it does skip once in a while though, never at a bad time up to now, touch wood
The benefit is bringing ur monitor into bed or on the couch and also resize and place it where ever you want. The comfort on par with my dt770’s personally.
How the hell are you going to aim with your mouse in FPS in your bed or use your hitbox in your bed. You are putting $3500 goggles on your head for no reason other than making your experience objectively worse
I go controller mode in here typically. Mouse still works though, but I wouldn’t use it in bed.
You get 10ms of added latency, have to be near your PC anyways, and have something heavy on your head and are watching the end result in 2d. For no reason
if you don’t understand the utility of a floating resizeable monitor wherever than I’m not gonna reach you. I rarely use moonlight. I mostly just ur it for casual browsing emails texting etc anyways. Its a content consumption device from bladerunner or something. It’s cool as shit.
When you play games you have to be in a position where you can
1) use the mouse thats connected to your PC
or
2) use the hibox thats connected to your PC
are you OK?
>It's a content consuomtion device
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BASED
>>in your bed
If you’re not going to sleep, GTFO of bed, loser
>>The benefit is bringing ur monitor into bed or on the couch and also resize and place it where ever you want. The comfort on par with my dt770’s personally.
Yeah, having a few pounds of hardware hanging on your skull is so comfortable.
Can you use it with the cover on in VR mode only? If I ever got one of those I’d keep the cover on and never use AR.
Nah cover has to be off. If you buy it you will mostly only use ar. Feeling in the room is nice.
I think it'd melt
>my $5000 setup that weighs 200lb+ is better than your glasses which do the same thing and weigh two pounds
Are you autistic
>>my $5000 setup that weighs 200lb+ is better than your glasses which do the same thing and weigh two pounds
>which do the same thing
oh, so you can stream PS5 with no latency? You can stream steam with no latency? Get out of here.
what difference does the weight of a pc make to its functionality?
this isn't rhetorical, what do you know that I don't
So basically youve been using VR headsets for AR purposes. And when an actual AR headset comes out, this somehow means the VR headsets are bad?????
Try doing VR on the vision pro you moron.
>The design philosophy and the philosophy of use are just so much more cohesive
This is an ad
>The design philosophy and the philosophy of use are just so much more cohesive...
>There was a vision they executed on here rather than an amalgamation of features...
>The ergonomics of having a battle station where ever you are can’t be overstated....
This is an advertising AI chatbot.
But is it wrong?
Nah it’s me. Just happy with my headset. Don’t knock it you try it. I’ve had it since launch and I spend more hours per day in it than I’m comfortable admitting.
Look on the Vision Pro twitter. I see crazy new XR clips every day. Alvr is one I’m excited for.
Does anyone actually know if it's available for devs to access camera and build apps AR+VR apps? If yes - I'm baying it tomorrow ::D
So what have you been doing with yours, anon?
>I use it infinitely more than any of my other vr headsets. I use it more than my phone now.
look at this fricking Bradley
good morning saar
good curry sir
Take a look on twitter people are saying they use it a lot
> people on twitter saying things
wow. considering that apple only put in an order for less than a million units for 2024, i highly fricking doubt it.
Their bottlenecked by Sony’s fab facility they can only make 500,000 displays. Because they are so good. And hard to make.
stop lying, you stupid fricking Black person.
Google it :^)
I refuse to use google
VR is just kind of a meme that people just don't like, it's annoying to wear something on your face that cuts you off from the world. vision pro is a good example of a VR device but it doesn't change that fact.
People returning them bought them to make a few videos about the usual moronic "dystopian future where they make random gestures like npc" for clicks.
It's worse than even Facebook. Its a phone attached to your face that you can't use for porn. Useless.
>that you can't use for porn
what? it has a web browser.
how do you consume your porn right now, through telnet?
VR porn. It’s like crack.
It's a $3,500 iPad except most of the apps don't work.
Because Theres literally no point. Have you seen the UI? its just a beefy iPad strapoed to your face. You are paying 3.5k MINIMUM to do the same trash you do on your phone. Why would you pay tbousands to go yhroughbyour photos or send a text?
Bc eye tracking feels like like a BCI. Instant mind reading magic
the eye tracking as a mouse cursor stuff is amazing tech
shame it's restricted by the iToy OS and walled garden
>walled garden
This.
The industry won't fall for the same trick twice (see Netflix )
>the eye tracking as a mouse cursor stuff is amazing tech
i hear that its VERY stressful on your eyes
It’s not
how can I believe you? Just me moving my eyes around without a AVP strapped to my face is tiring
Eyes are built to move my guy
not wildly darting around constantly. I am just telling you what I have read from reviews. No way in hell I will buy this
You look at your cursor where ever it’s going on a pc already. Now imagine no cursor. That’s about as much eye strain as I get. Clicking small very elements can be straining but if you just pinch zoom in on the page it eliminates that problem.
NTA but my eyes don't follow the cursor, it's the other way around
My guess is you already have devices that do what this does, but better in some way, probably convenience
and even if you don't, whatever that is will be cheaper
VR will catch on when it is actually AR and the headsets are as small as thick glasses. Go ahead and use all those v1.0 products. Everyone sane is waiting five to ten more years doing just fine.
that'll be so damn expensive nobody will buy it
Like flat screen TVs that used to cost 4k and now can be had for $200? Once mass adoption happens it'll come down drastically, especially with the data collection profits.
VR will continue to be a meme until it's full AR capable and wearing them is like wearing normal glasses. And the cost is equal or less than a cell phone. We're 20 years away minimum.
normal glasses don't need light blocking, it'll always have a cumbersome interface to block out light
the other route is some kind of projection, which we're even further away from
I use my avp without the facial interface a lot :0
and the light bleed makes it bad for that, im sorry anon but ar and vr are not the same thing. they have mutually exclusive requirements.
Nah it’s good either way
difference being the first gen tvs that sold for $5000 were built to last
at the $400 price point you have the same tech at 1% build quality
I will just wait for a 5th gen chink clone that already fixed the eye cooking problem.
Because it's shit and nonfree, like all of them.
>now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
People like me who might have been interested have already tried VR and decided its not for us
VR's 3rd gen (this current stuff) fails because:
- No software for it
- It is bulky
- The resolution/refresh rate are too low*
- It is wired
*I am not 100% sure, but IIRC, science says if it is below 8K@240Hz per eye, then it is too low.
apple really made a porn device that cant play porn
But you *can* play VR180 videos on it.
I have one. I use it daily. I think it's pretty neat.
no games
it's an uncomfortable piece of sheeeeeet.
apple can't into display tech.
pwm dimming in all of their screens should tell you enough. what trillion dollar company that has user experience on such a pedestal does this...morons.
mark my words, apple won't ever make something great again. it's going to be failed project after failed project after failed project.
they forcefully throw moronic amount of money on something without thinking about the customer. jobs was an insufferable gay, but at least he knew his audience better.
blessed post
>can’t into display tech
This is the most arguably the most advanced display tech on the planet rn.
>AVP : 650g
>BSB : 127g
heh heh heh
lmao
1080p v 4k
just wait
Even if the bsb was 6k per eye, I’d still prefer vision os to steam vr
wait for deckard to change all that, lol
I doubt valve can get the passthrough right. It’ll probably be a wireless high res microoled pancake with quest 3 like passthrough, which while great still wouldn’t touch vision OS or the Vision Pro. Also it will probably need controllers all the time, which does create a lot of friction getting in and out of vr.
if you dont have controllers you run into all sorts of problems my man. AVP already proved that fact
I disagree. I like not having controllers for most of my daily use. The hand tracking is very reliable.
It simply doesnt work reliably as proved by many many reviews and you entirely cant fap or game natively with motion controls
It works reliably enough for me to trust it, and I’m never frustrated navigating the UI.
look at the Verge review.
>you also cant fap
>you also cant game
Bro, I’m using it right now. I don’t need the verge to tell me what I’m experiencing.
You're just ignorant then and you're not fapping or gaming, so who the hell knows why you're using it in the first place
OK man. You keep holding out for your game console. Enjoy.
You mean waiting for deckard? I can wait some more.
it focuses on marketing specs, instead of necessary specs.
user experience would focus on the necessary specs. not 'moar pixels!!!'.
if you're going to choose non see-through vr setup, used for extended periods, the first think you need to do is make sure it is comfortable.
you make sure it has 0 pmw dimming, so no flickering.
you make sure it has near 0 latency.
pixelamount and color accuracy can suck a dick.
Nah I don’t think isn’t spec overload. I think the avp is actually the minimum viable product. I think this is the minimum resolution you can make a headset if you want to read small text, and watch 4k3d movies. As for comfort, it’s actually very good for me personally.
somewhat related, is there any way to stream pcvr from one pc to the other? i need to stream from my tower to my laptop that has my hedadset, and i dont know the way of doing it
you're going to have so much latency its literally going to be puke inducing
why? moonlight works really well in my setup
Normies see people making fun of them on TikTok. Normies don't buy. Simple as.
Like every other vr they banned porn.
Because it's novelty shit that doesn't have mass market appeal.
By the way, what's the cheapest VR headset with decent quality for videos?
I thought I'd never buy one but there are some actresses that do VR porn videos where no regular version exists, so I can't complete my collection in that case.
I would have recommended the HP Reverb G2 V2 as it has very good resolution, best-in-class earphones and you can get it for as low as $200-300 on a sale. The best headset for 2160p VR cooms IMO. There are two major caveats though:
-WMR is getting deprecated in 2026. I believe you can still download a standalone version, but that's up in the air at the moment.
-The cable WILL break on you within 12 months if you aren't extremely careful. The cable is also proprietary so replacements cost an arm and a leg.
Unless there's a workaround to WMR being deprecated I can't really recommend it anymore, which is a real pity.
>-WMR is getting deprecated in 2026. I believe you can still download a standalone version, but that's up in the air at the moment.
in theory collabora is working on support on linux
more like they are working on monado support that has support of many wmr headsets
Damn, seems like it's way more expensive here in Germany. The one massive drop in price is most likely some scam shit.
>WMR is getting deprecated in 2026
If it's Windows Mixed Reality then according to Wikipedia it's already deprecated as of December and support will be removed from the Windows OS this year.
>in a drawer, collecting dust
it shouldn't collect that much dust if it's stored in a drawer.
As technologically impressive as the AVP is, the idea of computing spatially all day doesn't have much appeal to me. When i'm in VR i want interesting stuff to happen, not to stare at the same boring screens i normally look at on a monitor, except while being on the moon or something.
its called facial computing.
because the computing happens on your FACE
>why are owners leaving this thing in a drawer, collecting dust like every other VR headset?
I have a richgay friend who was gifted an new Occulus with all the extra add-ons and he has never even turned it on. It makes me seethe because as a poorgay I've been dreaming of having VR for years and all I ever got was a few hours at a VR cafe. >:(
you're not missing much anon, the best VR experience is still Half Life Alyx, and it will barely last 10 hours
>vr experience
literally the marvel movie reviewer perspective of vr.
fricking railroaded scenarios and "oooh, aaaah"s are how you determine of vr is good or not. genuinely disgusting.
I agree with this. Honestly while I’m excited for people to get pcvr working on the avp, it’s a pretty small value add. There are a small handful of pcvr titles that are even half decent. I just had and sold the quest 3 bc I didn’t really use it, and when I did all I did was blast techno and play that John wick half life alyx mod
see
>pcvr on the avp
are you moronic?
People already have it working now if you compile the app yourself
>Too expensive
>no support for multi devices
>Shit store
>Breaking into half
>Too fricking expensive
The thing about virtual reality / AR (both) is that they only work on flat floors. You cant really go up or down ramps or ladders with them because it just fricks with your inner ear because you know its not real. Thus, you cant really "travel" anywhere
It's simple, people don't want to wear anything on their heads. It really is just this. People mentally associate it with some effort.
I wear glasses all the time
The dust sure has settled on that
gotem
average western citizen goymaxxing
>what went wrong
Dude, you posted the fricking picture of what went wrong.
Do you expect people to see that fricking hideous ape and think, "oh right, I'll buy this product", for god's sake, use you're fricking eyes for once.
most accessible ever
haha that sounds hilarious
it's great
poorgays can only cope they don't have the latest and best tech
needs another economic crash for the form factor change warp
>dotcom crash
laptops take over desktop
>housing crash
smartphone takes over laptop
iphone came out in 2007, so probably stock market drops 40 percent next year. Followed by about 3-4 years of these things picking up and through financial voodoo becoming cheaper. So probably around 2029 you should be seeing these things worn by the migrant wave of haitians. I'd probably buy apple stock around 2026 and sit on it until 2038 when apple really starts to go bankrupt when they run out of patents.
a bit early for a post mortem. people are still buying the dumb thing.
Only thing I wonder is how good it is if you don't invest into the Apple ecosystem.
My main complaint with most nu-VR headsets is they are extremely tied to IoT India-tier shitware and barely work without it (i.e. any Meta Quest).
The only other Apple devices I have is the iPhone 15 pro max and AirPods Pro. This device doesn’t by any means necessitate being balls deep in the ecosystem. Taking 3d videos on my phone is tight tho
What about account shit?
>now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
>incredible amount of motion blur on passthrough
>muted colors on passthrough
>blurry even though high res
>too heavy
I wonder if they could put the computer in your pocket like they did with the battery to make it lighter.
Offloading introduces a risk of too much latency. The "transparency" is just cameras, after all.
how long until we have video of someone getting arrested/shot in the US while wearing this thing?
Every company in the XR space is terrified of creating the killer app for the platform, but in an unpolished state, only for a rival to roll up with a clone with better UX or functionality. So they've all done what they can to slow-walk the space's development while they get everything absolutely perfect. In Apple's case with the Alien Vs Predator, there is zero chance that they don't know that the use case that will kickstart the 3rd wave personal computing revolution is some sort of persistent and location-aware spatial app that's more like a virtual smarthome appliance (or group of them), and not an iPad app thay behaves like those janky AR NFL graphics. But they won't release it until Meta does theirs, SPECIFICALLY so that they can undercut it.
>people like to move around without 20 kg on their face and that's news to appletards
>why are owners leaving this thing in a drawer
maybe because the marketing in the literal image you provided was VERY exaggerated
Because VR is just another gimmick like 3D monitors.
>like every other VR headset
Bingo. It's a gimmick "tech", if you want one just buy the cheapest cardboard based one because it's just a useless gimmick that will be used exactly once.
>but muh apple, they can't do wrong
They fricked the apple car, they fricked the vision "pro", it's over, tim cook run them to the ground.
cardboard is a disgrace to VR, shut the frick up
Having ads that feature exclusively ugly Black folk and troons is so 2020 and doesn't sell anymore. If they don't fireb their DEI department they are done for.
i actually forgot this thing existed until this thread
Don't call black persons "things".
How is it that the mere existence of one black woman has buckbroke the entirety of IQfy?
she is a known rapist anon
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It causes the blood vessels in your eyes to burst that's what. People don't realise the biggest holdback in vr is the actual safe of use