A good first-time linux distro is one that you can just download and it just works. Your goal now is to escape the Microsoft Black person plantation. Mint is one of them but consider debian or ubuntu.
Ultimately you are playing the waiting game of having a polished desktop on linux, which still isn't here in 2024.
Wayland is still buggy
KDE and plasma 6 was a big buggy dissapointment.
Mint is the closest in terms of reliability, stability, support and it works very well.
Guess we'll just have to use linux mint until KDE sorts itself out.
PopOS made a moronic decision they should've just switched to cinnamon and helped develop wayland on this DE if they really wanted to progress the linux desktop.
Every distro on linux should move to KDE as their main DE because it's the future of linux.
>KDE and plasma 6 was a big buggy dissapointment. >Every distro on linux should move to KDE as their main DE because it's the future of linux.
I swear, nothing ever changes with this OS. I have been hearing this shit about KDE since version 4
Well valve made KDE the primary DE for the steam deck so it has no choice at this point.
We just need unification so QT/wayland seems like the future that everyone should be developing/pushing for if that's the way the linux desktop is going towards.
Gnome is a steaming pile of shit, I'm not a programmer tho so I wouldn't know how hard it is to develop for each.
Mint is good for what it is, a stable reliable and fast ubuntu desktop build on X11 cinnamon without snaps using GTK. IMO I think mint will bring back KDE when X11 becomes completely unviable. Until then I'm sticking with mint.
I don't even disagree with you. I guess I'm just tired of Linux sucking.
It felt like the Linux desktop was starting to mature and gain traction in the mid-2000s. Then KDE 4 released and broke KDE. Then GNOME 3 released and broke GNOME.
It feels like Linux never fully recovered from that.
Can confirm Im on KDE right now , there are some screen bugs that are annoying - I still like it a lot and nothing major that I need breaks so I don't mind.
>and helped develop wayland on this DE if they really wanted to progress the linux desktop.
I agree. imagine Fedora Cinnamon with Wayland support. I would frick that
Microsoft botnet
Mint botnet
That might be the actual reason some anons shill so much Mint, have you ever noticed how them always mention mint when the following questions are asked; >so I'm new to linux, which distro should I try?
mint >I'm only used windows my entire life
mint >I'm new to the communit
mint
Say anything other than Mint. I guarantee you that normie will come back to you with normie issues. Do you have the energy to solve all their problems and answer the same questions everytime a new windows users jumps in linux? I don't. That's why I recommend Mint and go with my day
Clem is a public Hamas sympathizer. You would already know this if you weren't a newbie tourist.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
israelite cope
close your mouth hebrew
Mint is Gold tier, and you know it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Mint is Gold tier
Silver at best. Mint hasn't had any true stand-out features for at least a decade. It's a relic of the past coasting along solely on brand recognition.
Also Cinnamon is a buggy laggy piece of shit in par with KDE.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
typo
*God tier
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Where could I have possibly made that typo?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the typo was mine
i meant to say God tier not gold tier
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's competent at least. But it's nothing special.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Mint hasn't had any true stand-out features for at least a decade.
Why does Mint need "stand-out features"?
what exactly is innovative about cinnamon? it feels like a worse version of windows xp
>what exactly is innovative about cinnamon?
Why does Cinnamon need to be "innovative"?
What's wrong with something that just works?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What's wrong with something that just works?
Because if it doesn't why wouldn't I just use Ubuntu proper?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Snaps
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
sudo apt purge snapd
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I frickin hate this meme. It doesn't work.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What part of it doesn't work? The sudo? The apt? The purge? Or maybe the snapd?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The everything.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Elaborate.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What's wrong with something that just works?
Because if it doesn't why wouldn't I just use Ubuntu proper?
Wrong quote >Why does Mint need "stand-out features"?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it doesn't necessarily need to be innovative. but every time you use a derivative you move away from the source, which adds complexity and means you need to trust yet another set of people/infrastructure.
ubuntu adds enough value over debian to make it worthy of use and to take on this additional complexity and risk. but mint doesn't anymore, imo.
that's why i asked about innovation.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Fair point and I wouldn't mind at all if Mint left Ubuntu behind entirely and was rebased on Debian
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
LMDE
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cinnamon "just works" in the sense that it accomplishes only the bare minimum. Jack of all trades, master of none. It is pure concentrated mediocrity. Pretty much anything else is a better option.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it accomplishes only the bare minimum
what do you run?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Today? About 5 miles. It's Friday give me a rest.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Cinnamon "just works" in the sense that it accomplishes only the bare minimum.
What crucial functionality is missing from Cinnamon compared to other DEs in your opinion?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Do you understand what "bare minimum" means?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Answer the question
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Performance is shit compared to every other DE due to being forked from early GNOME 3.
Customizability is also shit. You can basically just change the theme (which, thank God, have you seen Mint-Y?) and the panel layout.
No email or calendar integration either, you're expected to use Thunderbird like it's 2005.
That's just off the top of my head.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i thought mint was gnome 2
damn I'm switching
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
hahahaha
the perfect post doesn't exi--
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
heeee hehe
its good, and i am sick of people saying it is not
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it accomplishes only the bare minimum. Jack of all trades, master of none.
Which is all the average user really wants out of a DE.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Which would be a valid point if not for the fact that GNOME can do everything Cinnamon does but better.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>GNOME
lol
lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Your definition of "better" is different from almost everyone else's.
I'm right.
Cinnamon is a relic of a bygone era where everyone and their mother had their own GNOME fork.
It's time to come home, white man.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No one cares, ebussy.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>saved
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Your definition of "better" is different from almost everyone else's.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What's the use case for a non-innovative DE?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I know that
He stopped with the political shit albeit
If you donate, it goes to the development of Linux mint and that alone
Clem is a public Hamas sympathizer. You would already know this if you weren't a newbie tourist.
What's wrong about being a Hamas sympathizer?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Absolutely nothing. I believe in free speech. You're fully entitled to your opinion that terrorism is good and should be encouraged.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You're fully entitled to your opinion that terrorism is good and should be encouraged.
give credit where credit is due hebrew.
do not ever talk shit about /misc/ either, that is my home board and i take that shit personally.
you wanna be a cry baby pussy seething about those that do not worship you, keep that shit to yourself.
how is that for free speech?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>do not ever talk shit about /misc/ either, that is my home board and i take that shit personally.
How old are you?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
old enough to know
t.knower
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I never brought up pol. That was a different anon.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I never brought up pol. That was a different anon.
But since you brought it up, you should go back there.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
do not ever come there, sit your ass here where you belong.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You stick to /misc/ and I'll stick to IQfy. Deal?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i will stick to both and we can keep that between us, deal?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What's in it for me?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
election tourist frick off we're full
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Very based anon.
The Founding Fathers would be proud of you.
Arch isn't a "learning" distro, it's for people who are already familiar with *nix.
what if I don't want to "learn Linux"
what if I just want an OS that'll work out of the box and won't be bloated with AI shit and NSA spyware
If you're only switching for the sake of privacy, you will probably hate it. Just warning you now. If you want a smooth experience, some degree of learning is unavoidable, and the UX is just not the same as Windows.
Otherwise, yes, Mint is a perfectly fine distro.
i don't, but I think some people find it to be very windows esque - but I think thats only for the autists that need like a 1:1 port to stay sane yet try something new.
Or corps that might want linux ,to save costs but not alienate their workforce too much.
Yeah, yeah, have your laughs. Make your diversions. Just remember, that when I am king you will be FIRST UPON THE WALL! Useless peons babbling about nothing of consequence, letting all signaling fall between your delicate, awkward little Linux Mint fricking fingers.
what would my motive be? honestly?
is there some great conspiracy to get people to try out Mint?
i give credit where credit is due, i am very experienced in linux and i use it, but then again i do not define myself but what OS i use.. looking right at you arch gays
Mint has an outdated kernel and might not work everywhere. If youre new to linux, stick to basics, or or your laptops volume buttons wont work or something and absolutely nobody on any forum will help you fix them. Try Debian or Gentoo
It's the best out of the box just werks distro option right now, until people get their heads out of their asses and work on KDE and stop fragmenting the linux Desktop.
Cinnamon has a right to exist, but mint team should really drop MATE/XFCE as they are old abandonware, make a linux mint plasma edition and keep cinnamon as a backup.
Year of the linux desktop won't come without unification. Gnome is holding this back, GTK is holding this back.
KDE is already supported by valve, wayland and gamescope is already supported by valve.
it's already clear QT is easier and more compatible with wayland.
Come on in for the big win instead of fragmenting linux for the 10000th time.
No, you will add the oibaf or whatever PPA to have an update kernel and Mesa drivers, then you will add another repo to update Lutris and Wine/Proton and everything is going to shit itself.
If all you are going to do is shitpost on IQfy then yeah it alright
It's the best, just works out of the box with sensible default settings, polished for linux standards, it even has the same keybindings as windows for almost everything. Just avoid mate wich is bugged and redundant.
I would recommend either Debian or Mint. You should avoid Ubuntu. They have ads in the terminal for their pro Ubuntu and force snap packages on you among other nonsense. It's a terrible corporate distro.
The thing with Debian is that they their main desktop environment is Gnome. If you want any other desktop environment than that you should know that the Debian team puts very little effort into the images that ship with other desktop environments. Their Gnome image is very good however, so I would consider that too.
If you want something more windows-like however, I would go with Mint. Any of their desktop environments are fine, really, but Cinnamon is their main one.
How else does Mint differ from Ubuntu besides the following?
- Mint has flatpak, Ubuntu has snap
- Mint does not have GNOME or KDE
- Ubuntu has ads in terminal
- Ubuntu has Ubuntu Pro (free subscription for more comprehensive security updates)
Linux mint is the only viable distro for desktop Linux for 99% of the population. The other 1% will want something like Arch as they need some up-to-date package for development or some shit. >Inb4 insert Debian, Fedora, Arch cope
All of them need hours of tard wrangling to make it usable for the average npc idiot. You're asking for trouble putting anyone on them.
>Linux mint is the only viable distro for desktop Linux for 99% of the population.
Let's kill Linux Mint then. I don't want tards flooding my perfect free ecosystem.
A good first-time linux distro is one that you can just download and it just works. Your goal now is to escape the Microsoft Black person plantation. Mint is one of them but consider debian or ubuntu.
Yes, good night friend
I'd say anything Debian-based is good for a first time user and Mint is probably the most streamlined version of the Debian-based.
don't listen to people trying to sell you debian. it is the only truly cursed distro. you could say its dark history hangs over it
>curbyourenthusiasm.mp3
yes
Mint has been gaining in popularity because it's more windows like. Otherwise ubuntu is probably a good choice.
I've used linux for around 10 years. Used ubuntu,mint, arch, manjaro, debian, fedora.
Currently back to mint, although my 2nd computer is still fedora
Yes.
Ultimately you are playing the waiting game of having a polished desktop on linux, which still isn't here in 2024.
Wayland is still buggy
KDE and plasma 6 was a big buggy dissapointment.
Mint is the closest in terms of reliability, stability, support and it works very well.
Guess we'll just have to use linux mint until KDE sorts itself out.
PopOS made a moronic decision they should've just switched to cinnamon and helped develop wayland on this DE if they really wanted to progress the linux desktop.
Every distro on linux should move to KDE as their main DE because it's the future of linux.
>KDE and plasma 6 was a big buggy dissapointment.
>Every distro on linux should move to KDE as their main DE because it's the future of linux.
I swear, nothing ever changes with this OS. I have been hearing this shit about KDE since version 4
Well valve made KDE the primary DE for the steam deck so it has no choice at this point.
We just need unification so QT/wayland seems like the future that everyone should be developing/pushing for if that's the way the linux desktop is going towards.
Gnome is a steaming pile of shit, I'm not a programmer tho so I wouldn't know how hard it is to develop for each.
Mint is good for what it is, a stable reliable and fast ubuntu desktop build on X11 cinnamon without snaps using GTK. IMO I think mint will bring back KDE when X11 becomes completely unviable. Until then I'm sticking with mint.
I don't even disagree with you. I guess I'm just tired of Linux sucking.
It felt like the Linux desktop was starting to mature and gain traction in the mid-2000s. Then KDE 4 released and broke KDE. Then GNOME 3 released and broke GNOME.
It feels like Linux never fully recovered from that.
Can confirm Im on KDE right now , there are some screen bugs that are annoying - I still like it a lot and nothing major that I need breaks so I don't mind.
>and helped develop wayland on this DE if they really wanted to progress the linux desktop.
I agree. imagine Fedora Cinnamon with Wayland support. I would frick that
>escapes Microsoft botnet
>installs Mint botnet
https://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-hundreds-were-tricked-into-installing-linux-mint-backdoor/
kys
>they hated him because he told them the truth
>"shut up!"
>aaiiiieeeeeee they got hacked 8 years ago which will never happen again
moron
Microsoft botnet
Mint botnet
That might be the actual reason some anons shill so much Mint, have you ever noticed how them always mention mint when the following questions are asked;
>so I'm new to linux, which distro should I try?
mint
>I'm only used windows my entire life
mint
>I'm new to the communit
mint
And?
haha maybe. i doubt it's that sinister. it's probably a single IQfy chudcel coping with his os choice and about to hop to a better distro
the whole point of mint (easy codecs) has been a non-issue for years
ubuntu is the only decent option for a just works distro
imagine trying to be a user-friendly desktop distro and not shipping gnome or plasma. cinnamon is ugly, clunky, and stuck in the past
>ugly, clunky, and stuck in the past
this is how i feel about Ubuntu now
what exactly is innovative about cinnamon? it feels like a worse version of windows xp
it is smooth as butter, give it a fair shot
Say anything other than Mint. I guarantee you that normie will come back to you with normie issues. Do you have the energy to solve all their problems and answer the same questions everytime a new windows users jumps in linux? I don't. That's why I recommend Mint and go with my day
dis homie looks all article from 2016. wtf?
What's with the sudden influx of Mint shilling? Is Gaza back online?
Go leave, schizo
It's getting posts because it's the only good desktop Linux distro
>Go leave, schizo
stay out of /misc/ where you belong pussy
By supporting Linux Mint you are literally supporting Hamas. This is a fact.
even doe you aren't
Clem is a public Hamas sympathizer. You would already know this if you weren't a newbie tourist.
israelite cope
close your mouth hebrew
Mint is Gold tier, and you know it.
>Mint is Gold tier
Silver at best. Mint hasn't had any true stand-out features for at least a decade. It's a relic of the past coasting along solely on brand recognition.
Also Cinnamon is a buggy laggy piece of shit in par with KDE.
typo
*God tier
Where could I have possibly made that typo?
the typo was mine
i meant to say God tier not gold tier
It's competent at least. But it's nothing special.
>Mint hasn't had any true stand-out features for at least a decade.
Why does Mint need "stand-out features"?
>what exactly is innovative about cinnamon?
Why does Cinnamon need to be "innovative"?
What's wrong with something that just works?
>What's wrong with something that just works?
Because if it doesn't why wouldn't I just use Ubuntu proper?
Snaps
sudo apt purge snapd
I frickin hate this meme. It doesn't work.
What part of it doesn't work? The sudo? The apt? The purge? Or maybe the snapd?
The everything.
Elaborate.
Wrong quote
>Why does Mint need "stand-out features"?
it doesn't necessarily need to be innovative. but every time you use a derivative you move away from the source, which adds complexity and means you need to trust yet another set of people/infrastructure.
ubuntu adds enough value over debian to make it worthy of use and to take on this additional complexity and risk. but mint doesn't anymore, imo.
that's why i asked about innovation.
Fair point and I wouldn't mind at all if Mint left Ubuntu behind entirely and was rebased on Debian
LMDE
Cinnamon "just works" in the sense that it accomplishes only the bare minimum. Jack of all trades, master of none. It is pure concentrated mediocrity. Pretty much anything else is a better option.
>it accomplishes only the bare minimum
what do you run?
Today? About 5 miles. It's Friday give me a rest.
>Cinnamon "just works" in the sense that it accomplishes only the bare minimum.
What crucial functionality is missing from Cinnamon compared to other DEs in your opinion?
Do you understand what "bare minimum" means?
Answer the question
Performance is shit compared to every other DE due to being forked from early GNOME 3.
Customizability is also shit. You can basically just change the theme (which, thank God, have you seen Mint-Y?) and the panel layout.
No email or calendar integration either, you're expected to use Thunderbird like it's 2005.
That's just off the top of my head.
i thought mint was gnome 2
damn I'm switching
hahahaha
the perfect post doesn't exi--
heeee hehe
its good, and i am sick of people saying it is not
>it accomplishes only the bare minimum. Jack of all trades, master of none.
Which is all the average user really wants out of a DE.
Which would be a valid point if not for the fact that GNOME can do everything Cinnamon does but better.
>GNOME
lol
lmao
I'm right.
Cinnamon is a relic of a bygone era where everyone and their mother had their own GNOME fork.
It's time to come home, white man.
No one cares, ebussy.
>saved
Your definition of "better" is different from almost everyone else's.
What's the use case for a non-innovative DE?
I know that
He stopped with the political shit albeit
If you donate, it goes to the development of Linux mint and that alone
>saved
You can stop with the sales pitch, I already liked Mint.
What's wrong about being a Hamas sympathizer?
Absolutely nothing. I believe in free speech. You're fully entitled to your opinion that terrorism is good and should be encouraged.
>You're fully entitled to your opinion that terrorism is good and should be encouraged.
give credit where credit is due hebrew.
do not ever talk shit about /misc/ either, that is my home board and i take that shit personally.
you wanna be a cry baby pussy seething about those that do not worship you, keep that shit to yourself.
how is that for free speech?
>do not ever talk shit about /misc/ either, that is my home board and i take that shit personally.
How old are you?
old enough to know
t.knower
I never brought up pol. That was a different anon.
But since you brought it up, you should go back there.
do not ever come there, sit your ass here where you belong.
You stick to /misc/ and I'll stick to IQfy. Deal?
i will stick to both and we can keep that between us, deal?
What's in it for me?
election tourist frick off we're full
Very based anon.
The Founding Fathers would be proud of you.
I support Linux Mint 100%, then
Arch is better if you want to learn Linux.
You are right, definitely not organic.
what if I don't want to "learn Linux"
what if I just want an OS that'll work out of the box and won't be bloated with AI shit and NSA spyware
Arch isn't a "learning" distro, it's for people who are already familiar with *nix.
If you're only switching for the sake of privacy, you will probably hate it. Just warning you now. If you want a smooth experience, some degree of learning is unavoidable, and the UX is just not the same as Windows.
Otherwise, yes, Mint is a perfectly fine distro.
Whats the point of using mint over Debian?
bookworm is pretty great
Whats the point of using mint over Debian?
i don't, but I think some people find it to be very windows esque - but I think thats only for the autists that need like a 1:1 port to stay sane yet try something new.
Or corps that might want linux ,to save costs but not alienate their workforce too much.
no
it almost bricked my bitlocker when I was trying it live because it wouldn't shut down properly and I had to hard reset
skill issue
frick off homosexual
sorry about your struggles
i enjoy it, and i run all kinds of linux
I don't want to enjoy my operating system. I want to forget that it exists entirely.
then you should be on Mint
Too much cinnalag, too many cinnacrashes.
for linux, ubuntu is the obvious choice. only IQfy autists care about snap versus flatpak, wayland versus x11
>ubuntu is the obvious choice
ubuntu was the choice 10 years ago
kubuntu and mint are both good
avoid regular ubuntu
yes
Yeah, yeah, have your laughs. Make your diversions. Just remember, that when I am king you will be FIRST UPON THE WALL! Useless peons babbling about nothing of consequence, letting all signaling fall between your delicate, awkward little Linux Mint fricking fingers.
10th mint shill thread today. What is your objective here?
what else is there to talk about?
it is a great OS for people new to linux, and that is the point of the thread.
You need multiple threads per day to say this? If it's good, let it speak for itself. Unless you have another motive?
what would my motive be? honestly?
is there some great conspiracy to get people to try out Mint?
i give credit where credit is due, i am very experienced in linux and i use it, but then again i do not define myself but what OS i use.. looking right at you arch gays
Linux is a fricking meme.
It will cause you so many problems down the road.
and so many solutions aswell
Linux is such a great solution to having free time.
Mint has an outdated kernel and might not work everywhere. If youre new to linux, stick to basics, or or your laptops volume buttons wont work or something and absolutely nobody on any forum will help you fix them. Try Debian or Gentoo
Yes. I prefer Debian, but Mint has the most user friendly out-of-the-box settings I've ever used in desktop Linux.
It's the best out of the box just werks distro option right now, until people get their heads out of their asses and work on KDE and stop fragmenting the linux Desktop.
Cinnamon has a right to exist, but mint team should really drop MATE/XFCE as they are old abandonware, make a linux mint plasma edition and keep cinnamon as a backup.
>linux mint plasma edition
We can dream
>MATE/XFCE as they are old abandonware
i always enjoy random new users with bizarre takes
Year of the linux desktop won't come without unification. Gnome is holding this back, GTK is holding this back.
KDE is already supported by valve, wayland and gamescope is already supported by valve.
it's already clear QT is easier and more compatible with wayland.
Come on in for the big win instead of fragmenting linux for the 10000th time.
nope, it's the best
yes.
>t. Switched to Linux last month. Used Mint because of all the shit I've heard about Ubuntu.
Dear anon:
Go the frick back.
Sincerely,
The Linux Community
ah yes, "The Linux Community".
>listening to anything IQfy says ever
i shart the dart
No, you will add the oibaf or whatever PPA to have an update kernel and Mesa drivers, then you will add another repo to update Lutris and Wine/Proton and everything is going to shit itself.
If all you are going to do is shitpost on IQfy then yeah it alright
always has been
It's the best, just works out of the box with sensible default settings, polished for linux standards, it even has the same keybindings as windows for almost everything. Just avoid mate wich is bugged and redundant.
Yes.
I would recommend either Debian or Mint. You should avoid Ubuntu. They have ads in the terminal for their pro Ubuntu and force snap packages on you among other nonsense. It's a terrible corporate distro.
The thing with Debian is that they their main desktop environment is Gnome. If you want any other desktop environment than that you should know that the Debian team puts very little effort into the images that ship with other desktop environments. Their Gnome image is very good however, so I would consider that too.
If you want something more windows-like however, I would go with Mint. Any of their desktop environments are fine, really, but Cinnamon is their main one.
How else does Mint differ from Ubuntu besides the following?
- Mint has flatpak, Ubuntu has snap
- Mint does not have GNOME or KDE
- Ubuntu has ads in terminal
- Ubuntu has Ubuntu Pro (free subscription for more comprehensive security updates)
Absolutely
Yes.
Linux mint is the only viable distro for desktop Linux for 99% of the population. The other 1% will want something like Arch as they need some up-to-date package for development or some shit.
>Inb4 insert Debian, Fedora, Arch cope
All of them need hours of tard wrangling to make it usable for the average npc idiot. You're asking for trouble putting anyone on them.
>Linux mint is the only viable distro for desktop Linux for 99% of the population.
Let's kill Linux Mint then. I don't want tards flooding my perfect free ecosystem.