>What's "deserved" if he's fulfilling the master plan for God's new covenant?
The sentence that He was given was undeserved, He was not rightfully punished. >Juda's death is undeserved. He was a pawn of fate.
Spotted the c*lvinist.
Fulfilling God's plan isn't the same as deserving to die. >Juda's death is undeserved. He was a pawn of fate.
Judas deserved to die, he chose to be a loser (opposing Christ) and killed himself like a loser.
>Jesus doesn’t get unjustly punished >Everyone goes to hell
Because they have massive cognitive dissonance and start from the point of the Bible being an authoritative historical document. Spoiler: it’s not.
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>Because they have massive cognitive dissonance and start from the point of the Bible being an authoritative historical document.
I'm sorry that real historians don't see your quasi-conspiratorial view of the Bible as reliable, anon.
Name a historical document from a contemporary non-Christian that talks about Jesus
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Josephus? Tacitus?
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Both were born after Jesus died.
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Why do we need such a source? Why can't the Christian sources sufice? That's the problem with you people, you immadiately disregard the NT as a valid source of historical information from the get go for absolutely no reason.
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The Book of Mormon is a valid source of historical information BTW
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To confirm that Joseph Smith existed? Yeah.
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Joseph Smith's existence is proven by tax records not his fantasy book
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>Who is Pontius Pilatus, Alex
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Waiting for that contemporary non-Christian source
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Pontius Pilatus was literally with Jesus, Pontius Pilatus wasn't Christian.
No more waiting required, buddy.
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"Source" means document, not name, little zoomer
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It definitely does not, illiterate immigrant.
By your logic Muhammad didn't exist either, or Julius Caesar.
What's the "source" we have for Julius Ceaser that we don't have of Jesus?
Prove to me that anything written down 2000 years ago actually happened.
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First of all, your knee-jerk whataboutism is really not reassuring.
In the second place, Julius Caesar left behind a couple of works, including the famous De Bello Gallico, and his direct descendant (Octavian) went to found the Empire. His historicity is much harder to doubt, compared to Jesus
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Nta but how do you know any of that is true?
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The Church has a clear interest in having you believe Jesus actually existed.
Who would ever have an interest in fabricating Caesar's historicity?
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Both were born after Jesus died.
half of known history comes from people who were born after said history
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Then we may really need to rely upon the other half
Jesus.
What's "deserved" if he's fulfilling the master plan for God's new covenant? Juda's death is undeserved. He was a pawn of fate.
>What's "deserved" if he's fulfilling the master plan for God's new covenant?
The sentence that He was given was undeserved, He was not rightfully punished.
>Juda's death is undeserved. He was a pawn of fate.
Spotted the c*lvinist.
>Jesus doesn’t get unjustly punished
>Everyone goes to hell
>And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
Fulfilling God's plan isn't the same as deserving to die.
>Juda's death is undeserved. He was a pawn of fate.
Judas deserved to die, he chose to be a loser (opposing Christ) and killed himself like a loser.
>Satan kills Jesus
>still loses
Sucks to suck.
Hypatia.
Not a historical figure, moron
Modern scholarship disagrees with you.
Because they have massive cognitive dissonance and start from the point of the Bible being an authoritative historical document. Spoiler: it’s not.
>Because they have massive cognitive dissonance and start from the point of the Bible being an authoritative historical document.
I'm sorry that real historians don't see your quasi-conspiratorial view of the Bible as reliable, anon.
>Christcucks
>”real historians”
Fricking hilarious, keep ‘em coming anon
Bart Ehrman is a christcuck now?
Name a historical document from a contemporary non-Christian that talks about Jesus
Josephus? Tacitus?
Both were born after Jesus died.
Why do we need such a source? Why can't the Christian sources sufice? That's the problem with you people, you immadiately disregard the NT as a valid source of historical information from the get go for absolutely no reason.
The Book of Mormon is a valid source of historical information BTW
To confirm that Joseph Smith existed? Yeah.
Joseph Smith's existence is proven by tax records not his fantasy book
>Who is Pontius Pilatus, Alex
Waiting for that contemporary non-Christian source
Pontius Pilatus was literally with Jesus, Pontius Pilatus wasn't Christian.
No more waiting required, buddy.
"Source" means document, not name, little zoomer
It definitely does not, illiterate immigrant.
By your logic Muhammad didn't exist either, or Julius Caesar.
What's the "source" we have for Julius Ceaser that we don't have of Jesus?
Prove to me that anything written down 2000 years ago actually happened.
First of all, your knee-jerk whataboutism is really not reassuring.
In the second place, Julius Caesar left behind a couple of works, including the famous De Bello Gallico, and his direct descendant (Octavian) went to found the Empire. His historicity is much harder to doubt, compared to Jesus
Nta but how do you know any of that is true?
The Church has a clear interest in having you believe Jesus actually existed.
Who would ever have an interest in fabricating Caesar's historicity?
half of known history comes from people who were born after said history
Then we may really need to rely upon the other half
I could have saved her..
Ivan VI
Stalin did not deserve to be poisoned by Khrushchev
Mussolini. The world hates great men like him and the bad guys won.
t. Anglo Protestant btw
The Czar (and his family).
Marie Antoinette's friend and son.
Blackbeard.
Ben Cochrane (although incredibly fricking kino).
Paul Walker.
La Mulâtresse Solitude
Thomas à Becket
Probably those dutch guys who were killed and eaten
Those beaners really did my boy Max dirty.
The russian Romanov family, gods chosen loved them so much they killed the servants too all at once.
Conradin
he
Millions of random, illiterate conscripted teenagers, as well as millions of civilians that were sacked and brutalized by invading armies. War sucks
Nicholas 2
Lenin should had give some mansion and give him title of Retired King or something like that
I also never got the hate for him. The man tried and was basically just hated because he lost a war they were always going to lose.
He lost two wars, Anon
socrates
john the baptist
Me.
Anne Frank