Is there a rule that nostalgia-bait zoomer "web 1.0" styled websites have to be as ugly and as user hostile as possible, abusing the frick out of frames and basically being completely unusable?
It's almost like you're literally not allowed to offer a mobile layout to have "neocities" cred, why are zoomer retro nostalgia websites like this?
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>user hostile as possible
think about that statement
>shit made ages ago should cater to my modern sensibilities
Return to tradition
Amateur Internet is comfier and funnier than corporate Internet
It was pretty similar to like some of the shit I've seen from them. No disrespect, but how old are you?
What's this page?
https://neocities.org/browse
I feel silly for asking now, thanks.
Aren't imageboards and phpBB forums an early iteration of web 2.0 though?
Web 1.0 sites were, perhaps to your surprise, not designed for a form factor that didn’t exist. In fact most of them were designed for whatever resolution the creators screen was, typically 640x480 or 800x600.
Now, the modern “zoomer” neo cities stuff is really its own thing, it takes advantage of modern browser features to make the aesthetics more consistent and cleaner, with some token throwbacks to the early days of widespread internet use. They’re essentially pet projects, they’re not meant to be “usable on a wide variety of devices”. Complaining it doesn’t work on your phone is like complaining someone’s kit car doesn’t have CarPlay. The lack of modern design bullshit is half the appeal.
in fact, designing with a hardcoded 800px width was standard and preferred to letting the browser automatically determine content width. it's also easy to forget that CSS was originally meant to allow the browser to add styling, and for the user to add styling, to tailor all that marked-up hyper-text to the specific user. but web browsers turned into virtual machines and at this point html is like some sort of inverted x11 protocol
https://www.vidlii.com/watch?v=IUBD1AJP9zr
This filters casual users the same way GitHub filters people who need a download button. I don't see the problem
what "usable" websites are you trying to find on neocities? it's all for hobbyists, you aren't going to find "content" or "business."
the autism, that's why. Actual web 1.0 sites like Space Jam 1996 didn't have any of this garbage, but since modern zoomers can't make anything that doesn't have their own identity being forced upon you with every single page, this is the result.
You will not be surprised to know that a good 1/3 of these websites are made by troons.
>why aren't websites designed like websites of old catering to my mobile phone reeeeEEEEEEEEEEEE
Die.
>ugly
0 taste
why do they all look so childish?
your time is up old man
they're made by children.
This. Though I still think it's a good thing they're trying to make their own websites even if their sites suck.
One of the things that bothers me is that 95% of those guys only hyperfocus on this pseudo-aesthetics they associate with web 1.0 instead of its actual content. People made personal websites filled with info for their interests and hobbies or bits of their personal lives because they had no other choice. The amateurish design was directly derived from this because it was mostly done by self-taught amateurs. It was a means to an end.
Now the majority of those guys put the cart before the horse and make this extra quirky shit just for the sake of it. It's like digital skin-walking without the soul.
If you don't put in enough effort into the design to fit in with everyone else, most people will think you didn't put in as much effort into the content either, and will doubt its credibility. Even when they know your content is good they'll drop be more hesitant to recommend it.
You can immediately tell when a webpage is made by an artist as their serious homepage, because everyone else just steals their assets and links to them.
Nothing says "i have nothing interesting to say" than having a website with more webring widgets than text.
I'm surprised this website has remained largely unchanged over the years kek
Which I don't think is a bad thing
>images all LGBT as frick
yeah that's zoomers for you
>L I T E R A L L Y triggered by colors
Literally triggered by unicode characters rendered on his screen
when done properly by old school boomers it's a usability masterclass
https://www.italiansrus.com/recipes/recipes.htm
My blog doesn't even have css, it's just a bunch of random static html pages.
Wants to add a new page? Just write a new document and put a link in the index or somewhere.
Professionally in a backend webdev, but modern web and it's expectations is so tiresome, and I dream of a simpler web
I don't think I'm LGBT enough to have a personal website, this is uncanny as frick.
You frickers have spent so long on siloed sites you forgot the whole point of the web, let people have fun.
they're having fun in a way i don't appreciate doebeit.
>anime
>schizophrenia
>lgbtq+
the dark trinity
All sites I access exist sense 1998.
>he posted on a 2003 website
cultural appropriation they should be rightfully called out
my website doesn't have a mobile layout because i hate phones and everyone who uses them for browsing the internet
it's literally 2 lines of code to dynamically reflow your page from 3 columns to one.
and my time isn't worth either of them, phonegays cope
i dont want morons who use phones to browse the internet on my site
frick accessibility and frick mobile friendliness tbh
It's literally 2 lines of code, not adding them is antisocial.
disabled people should get off my website and go and remove themselves from the gene pool and mobile users can just be lumped in with the disabled people.
Can't handle this amount of soul even if it is mimicry.
Remember: websites not working on mobile devices is a very good thing and a goal to strive for.
All these meme retro sites are made by lgbt people. Click the "about" section and 80% of the time its some gender pronoun nonsense of mtf creepiness. Its so messed up
nah, not true, there's a bunch of good personal, projects and informative pages around.
Also you can choose how to design your page, mine is not like that at all. One chooses the style based on his own tastes of it's a personal page, so that means you may not like it.
I have a page that should be seen by all kind of people, so I have an appropriate design for that.
Youve refuted nothing I havw just said
What would be wrong with that though? Data shows that like ~25% of gen z is lgbt (mostly bisexual)
As for transgender, well transgender does not exist IRL.
>What would be wrong with that though
I didnt say anything was wrong with it. Its just radically disproportionate
>As for transgender, well transgender does not exist IRL.
I know. Its mostly trans
everyone thinks they are bisexual until theyve had enough experience unless they refuse to even question it. kids are just brainwashed into taking that experimentation into permanent self-harm now. I'm sure my parents thought the same about shit like cutting and taking ecstasy, and they'd be right, but the stat '25% of gen z is lgbt' is just the newest most extreme form of cultural suicide and doesn't reflect their true sexuality.
so i'm torn on making judgements about these people's websites based on how cringemaxxed they are. gen y and millenials were also cringe as frick.
but this is objectively a bad thing even compared to your 90s/00s edgelord 1337 h4ck3r that loves linkin park and wrote his 30th draft suicide note because he broke up with his girlfriend. on the bright side my generation was all talk when it came to self-deleting, but as far as statistics go, they don't look to good for the "ambiamorus neuro-spicy transfems" chances of </self>ing
I didnt ask
This is completely fine, old internet had many sites like that. lgbt people were also outsiders and used the internet to connect. The difference is that there was no homogenized leitkultur like today.
links to other pages and fast loading html are in fact extremely usable
every time i click a button and some fricking submenu pops up via javascript or it scrolls me somewhere automatically i feel sad
That's Web 2.0 at a minimum, not web 1.0 you fricking zoomie.