I just downloaded the PDFs from the IRS website, filled them out, and mailed them in. It's kind of a pain but it's not difficult if you can follow instructions and do second-grade arithmetic, it's just that most people in this country can't.
>PDF
Malaysian here. Even we thirdies only fill up our taxes entirely online since 2010. The online forms are already partially filled and instantly updates when you change the figures.
You can file them online, but at least last year the US IRS was doing some shady shit with a private contractor (id.me) who was using facial recognition to identify you. As in, if you wanted an account to file online you didn't just need personal details and a scan of some government-issued identification, you needed a webcam and to also agree to a private company's lack-of-privacy policy about storing facial-recognition data. So frick them, I'll pay the price of a stamp to not do that, and they can pay more than the price of a stamp to read my paper forms.
>Stop being soo proud of everything
I never said anything about anyone being proud of taxes. That's not what this nation is founded on.
1 month ago
Anonymous
you have pride in being able to choose whether you want one or two dicks in your ass when both choices are fricking stupid
1 month ago
Anonymous
Kek, where do you see the word proud in that initial post?
Why are you obsessed with American tax law?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>So your post should read as only in America do you have options.
This is pride whether you like it or not.
You're gloating like >HAH, WE GET THE CHOICE TO PAY SOMEONE; OR WORK THROUGH 25 PAGES OF JARGON, TAKE THAT
meanwhile in the rest of the world, the government is our b***h and does all the calculations and deductions for us, as well as providing online portals to check and verify the information.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>sit down and let me vent my moron rage at you or else you’re being proud
High incel energy
1 month ago
Anonymous
you've jumped to the buzzwords so I assume you've conceded. good talk bud.
1 month ago
Anonymous
what, in the US they deduct from your paycheck and if you don’t adjust it as you make more money you still have to pay more when taxes are due.
Although I guess getting an interest free loan from Uncle Sam is somewhat based.
OpenTaxSolver, I literally used it this year for both CA and federal.
Will report back if it made a mistake but it really saved time having to read all the forms and do all the worksheets, if handles all the intermediary calculations and tax table stuff for you.
It's not just for simple returns either, both my returns were 20+ pages cus I like to swing trade stocks, they cost $2 in postage to mail each, and that was after printing everything double sided. 🙁
Still no FOSS vocal synthesis software anywhere to be found after 16 years, UTAU doesn't even count, the only success story from UTAU got repackaged as a proprietary AI-based vocal synthesizer.
Because it's against the law to rob people, so when an angry mob shows up the gov wants to claim you volunteered your money when you voluntarily submitted your taxes
It's a literal humiliation ritual to remind every American that they're being robbed by the federal government, it's supposed to sting.
This is why no congress has succeeded in making taxes automatic, it's already fricking automated, the IRS already knows how much you make from all electronic sources, and will bill you if you don't file.
That's what it was *supposed* to be, but the IRS turned that on its head with automatic (and mandatory) withholding, to try and make people think of tax day as "I get a refund", instead of "look how much the government is stealing from me". They steal more and then give you a kickback and much of the population falls for it.
It's the IRS punishing you for being a wagie instead of having a business with real business expenses you can deduct and pay far less in taxes than wagecucks even if you make the same amount.
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Anonymous
there's a reason that neither Free File nor Direct File support investment income and work only if your only income is W-2 wages.
It's funny how many people get excited about big tax returns and fail to realize that just means the government overtaxed you and has been holding your money for a year
There's already free e-file alternatives provided by the IRS, people have no clue how to fill out the forms themselves and think they will get audited or thrown in jail for filling them out wrong.
The average American lives in fear of the tax man.
IRS already keep track of and did all your taxes automatically, it's how they can charge people for tax evasion. Yet you still need to fill your taxes manually like some kind of homework
I’ve used freetaxUSA for years without paying a dime, never had any problems. They offer audit protection and other paid services but I simply ignore them. No constant emails, no scam texts, feels great.
A FRICKING SOFTWARE DISPLAY CALIBRATOR. THERE ARE NO OPTIONS ON LINUX OTHER THAN ONES THAT REQUIRE A HARDWARE CALIBRATOR. YOU CAN'T EVEN IMPORT ICC PROFILES BECAUSE LINUX REQUIRES SPECIAL VCGT TAGS
that shouldn't need a free and open source alternative as waxes shouldn't need to be " done" anymore lobbyists make sure taxes stay hard so people will pay for crap like that
Only in America would you need a private company to fill out your taxes for you.
I just downloaded the PDFs from the IRS website, filled them out, and mailed them in. It's kind of a pain but it's not difficult if you can follow instructions and do second-grade arithmetic, it's just that most people in this country can't.
>PDF
Malaysian here. Even we thirdies only fill up our taxes entirely online since 2010. The online forms are already partially filled and instantly updates when you change the figures.
You can file them online, but at least last year the US IRS was doing some shady shit with a private contractor (id.me) who was using facial recognition to identify you. As in, if you wanted an account to file online you didn't just need personal details and a scan of some government-issued identification, you needed a webcam and to also agree to a private company's lack-of-privacy policy about storing facial-recognition data. So frick them, I'll pay the price of a stamp to not do that, and they can pay more than the price of a stamp to read my paper forms.
You don't "need" it.its just an option.
So your post should read as only in America do you have options."
>I get to choose my method of humiliation!
only americans would be proud
>Stop being soo proud of everything
I never said anything about anyone being proud of taxes. That's not what this nation is founded on.
you have pride in being able to choose whether you want one or two dicks in your ass when both choices are fricking stupid
Kek, where do you see the word proud in that initial post?
Why are you obsessed with American tax law?
>So your post should read as only in America do you have options.
This is pride whether you like it or not.
You're gloating like
>HAH, WE GET THE CHOICE TO PAY SOMEONE; OR WORK THROUGH 25 PAGES OF JARGON, TAKE THAT
meanwhile in the rest of the world, the government is our b***h and does all the calculations and deductions for us, as well as providing online portals to check and verify the information.
>sit down and let me vent my moron rage at you or else you’re being proud
High incel energy
you've jumped to the buzzwords so I assume you've conceded. good talk bud.
what, in the US they deduct from your paycheck and if you don’t adjust it as you make more money you still have to pay more when taxes are due.
Although I guess getting an interest free loan from Uncle Sam is somewhat based.
You can go to USPS request all your tax forms there and return them to your local government office for free.
Mine are imported directly from my company to turbo tax for free then I just have to sign them.
There is an open source tax solver, and free fillable forms which are just PDFs with automatic calculations. I use those.
>this software comes as-is without warranty
>IRS OPEN UP!!!
*flashbang, gunshots and confused yelling*
OpenTaxSolver, I literally used it this year for both CA and federal.
Will report back if it made a mistake but it really saved time having to read all the forms and do all the worksheets, if handles all the intermediary calculations and tax table stuff for you.
It's not just for simple returns either, both my returns were 20+ pages cus I like to swing trade stocks, they cost $2 in postage to mail each, and that was after printing everything double sided. 🙁
It's pain. Nothing compares.
FOSS DAWs are garbage, but if you're looking for a commercial alternative, Logic Pro is very, very easy to replace.
I've tried others, and just have to keep coming back to this piece of shit.
Still no FOSS vocal synthesis software anywhere to be found after 16 years, UTAU doesn't even count, the only success story from UTAU got repackaged as a proprietary AI-based vocal synthesizer.
I go on taxslayer, fill everything in, preview my return, save it, cancel my account, and fill in the forms it generated for free.
why are taxes manual in america?
Humiliation Ritual
An actual humiliation ritual, even.
Because it's against the law to rob people, so when an angry mob shows up the gov wants to claim you volunteered your money when you voluntarily submitted your taxes
This but unironically. You need to be reminded of who's on top.
It's a literal humiliation ritual to remind every American that they're being robbed by the federal government, it's supposed to sting.
This is why no congress has succeeded in making taxes automatic, it's already fricking automated, the IRS already knows how much you make from all electronic sources, and will bill you if you don't file.
That's what it was *supposed* to be, but the IRS turned that on its head with automatic (and mandatory) withholding, to try and make people think of tax day as "I get a refund", instead of "look how much the government is stealing from me". They steal more and then give you a kickback and much of the population falls for it.
It's the IRS punishing you for being a wagie instead of having a business with real business expenses you can deduct and pay far less in taxes than wagecucks even if you make the same amount.
there's a reason that neither Free File nor Direct File support investment income and work only if your only income is W-2 wages.
they wanted to charge me $62 for not withholding enough throughout the year instead of just paying what I owe all at once.
It's funny how many people get excited about big tax returns and fail to realize that just means the government overtaxed you and has been holding your money for a year
Intuit and similar tax service companies lobbying to prevent the IRS from providing a free, public alternative.
There's already free e-file alternatives provided by the IRS, people have no clue how to fill out the forms themselves and think they will get audited or thrown in jail for filling them out wrong.
The average American lives in fear of the tax man.
It is voluntary.
IRS already keep track of and did all your taxes automatically, it's how they can charge people for tax evasion. Yet you still need to fill your taxes manually like some kind of homework
It's your civic responsibility, chud.
so stupid
Not my problem.
is it open source?
>a fricking leaf
>canadian
You have at least a dozen other issues to make up for it.
I’ve used freetaxUSA for years without paying a dime, never had any problems. They offer audit protection and other paid services but I simply ignore them. No constant emails, no scam texts, feels great.
It’s written in Poo# and can be cracked by a moron with a decompiler. Just google through the code for registration, activation, and product.
A FRICKING SOFTWARE DISPLAY CALIBRATOR. THERE ARE NO OPTIONS ON LINUX OTHER THAN ONES THAT REQUIRE A HARDWARE CALIBRATOR. YOU CAN'T EVEN IMPORT ICC PROFILES BECAUSE LINUX REQUIRES SPECIAL VCGT TAGS
I JUST WANT TO CALIBRATE MY FRICKING SCREEN
i did the direct e-file with the IRS thing
it was free
and stupid quick
made me feel a little silly for paying a guy to do it before, but it was a family rate
that shouldn't need a free and open source alternative as waxes shouldn't need to be " done" anymore lobbyists make sure taxes stay hard so people will pay for crap like that
$27k a year
You pay for a Bloomberg terminal? It is a glorified chat program
No I don't pay but what do they talk about?
Esoteric finance memes. If you know you know.
Banks use it to close plain vanilla transactions and talk to each other. Most of what is there is publicly available tho. It is just hard to compile.
Ableton.
Cash App Taxes
moron.