Actually, modern Finns have more Siberian ancestry than their Finnic ancestor. Likely source for it is Sami. Here's coordinates of what N1c carriers to Finland looked like:
It's Finnic ancestor for the Balts, not for the Finns
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If he is ancestor of the Balts, he is mine too (N1c L550). Finnic ancestry came from the Baltic to Finland, while Sami ancestry most likely came from the east.
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Most Finns have the same(or relatively closely related to be specific) subclade as NEO538 which was enormously Siberian
of the 62% or so men with N1c in Finland only 1/4 belong to what you might call Estonic or Baltic subclades and vast majority of them aren't L550
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N-L550 is an elite royal norse-baltic clade
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Maybe but it originated in Estonia. It just didn't become common there or Finland.
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Isn't it in lithuania?
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The oldest samples that have it are from Estonia. Then it shows up in Lithuania and Latvia centuries later. It's also pretty common in eastern Sweden and actually it's less bottlenecked there than in Baltics.
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It's amazing how nganasan-udmurtoids raped eastern europe so hard
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Balto-Slavs are just weird weak cucks imo
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>Most Finns have the same(or relatively closely related to be specific) subclade as NEO538 which was enormously Siberian
Which isn't Finnic ancestors of Finns, but Sami.
Yes, this is real history, a real study of the past, not the made up bullshit of a byzantine homosexual from a thousand years ago
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you know that genetics alone doesn't tell you anything about what a people's culture is like, roght? Genetics always works with other branches of historical research
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Paleogenetics studies how migrations and ethnogenesis of ancient peoples occurred. Who the ancient people really were. Only Black folks who believe they're ancient Egyptians or pajeets who think they're Aryans don't like it.
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I never said I don't like it; but it's part of a larger research, because as I said, it doesn't give any info on the culture and we know that genetics doesn't tranlsate in a particular language or belief
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Genetics stands above culture and language because peoples and ethnicities are defined by their origins, i.e. their genetics. Genetics determines physical development, psyche and intelligence, and that determines cultural characteristics. Also, as far as I know, globular amphora culture was previously thought to be Indo-European until their dna was tested
at least we can estimate one historical fact from Y-DNA haplogroup, which is the paternal lineage of a human group. And it is well-known that the culture had been inherited from father to son in many societies, especially in the agricultural societies. We have no reason to ignore it.
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>culture had been inherited from father to son in many societies, especially in the agricultural societies
Not exactly a hard rule. And all it takes is a single son in the chain of hundreds of generations to break that "rule" for you to reach completely false conclusions on the culture of all of his descendants. You can use archeogenetics to support already existing historical evidence, but by itself it's not history.
hapa
hapagroup*
They were similar in origin to a mixture of chechen and mongol
They were 94% European so the paternal non-European ancestry got diluted like in Finns.
Actually, modern Finns have more Siberian ancestry than their Finnic ancestor. Likely source for it is Sami. Here's coordinates of what N1c carriers to Finland looked like:
RUS_Ingria_IA,0.1234985,0.1152625,0.0961655,0.091732,0.0450855,0.0376505,0.012103,0.022268,-0.0010225,-0.0380875,0.00203,-0.015661,0.029063,0.0364015,-0.0095685,-0.0106735,-0.009518,0.00095,0.0027025,-0.001251,-0.005116,-0.004328,0.006532,-0.0107245,-0.0026345
It's Finnic ancestor for the Balts, not for the Finns
If he is ancestor of the Balts, he is mine too (N1c L550). Finnic ancestry came from the Baltic to Finland, while Sami ancestry most likely came from the east.
Most Finns have the same(or relatively closely related to be specific) subclade as NEO538 which was enormously Siberian
of the 62% or so men with N1c in Finland only 1/4 belong to what you might call Estonic or Baltic subclades and vast majority of them aren't L550
N-L550 is an elite royal norse-baltic clade
Maybe but it originated in Estonia. It just didn't become common there or Finland.
Isn't it in lithuania?
The oldest samples that have it are from Estonia. Then it shows up in Lithuania and Latvia centuries later. It's also pretty common in eastern Sweden and actually it's less bottlenecked there than in Baltics.
It's amazing how nganasan-udmurtoids raped eastern europe so hard
Balto-Slavs are just weird weak cucks imo
>Most Finns have the same(or relatively closely related to be specific) subclade as NEO538 which was enormously Siberian
Which isn't Finnic ancestors of Finns, but Sami.
>Most famous Hungarian movie character is named Matthew Schneider
Oh gee. I wonder which race Magyars are.
They're mongols
They’re krauts who speak an eastern tongue.
J1?
They were from caucasus
Weren't they from Khazakstan?
mongols mixed with caucasians
G2abVLLS we're back in the game!
>haplogroups
Jump in front of active traffic homosexual, these threads are pure fricking cancer every single time
anti-haplogroup homosexual detected
it's the only part of history that gets published in actual scientific articles
>the thing that requires a laboratory to do is more science oriented
Woah; there is also archaeometallurgy btw
Yes, this is real history, a real study of the past, not the made up bullshit of a byzantine homosexual from a thousand years ago
you know that genetics alone doesn't tell you anything about what a people's culture is like, roght? Genetics always works with other branches of historical research
Paleogenetics studies how migrations and ethnogenesis of ancient peoples occurred. Who the ancient people really were. Only Black folks who believe they're ancient Egyptians or pajeets who think they're Aryans don't like it.
I never said I don't like it; but it's part of a larger research, because as I said, it doesn't give any info on the culture and we know that genetics doesn't tranlsate in a particular language or belief
Genetics stands above culture and language because peoples and ethnicities are defined by their origins, i.e. their genetics. Genetics determines physical development, psyche and intelligence, and that determines cultural characteristics. Also, as far as I know, globular amphora culture was previously thought to be Indo-European until their dna was tested
Genetics is not history and history is not a science.
at least we can estimate one historical fact from Y-DNA haplogroup, which is the paternal lineage of a human group. And it is well-known that the culture had been inherited from father to son in many societies, especially in the agricultural societies. We have no reason to ignore it.
>culture had been inherited from father to son in many societies, especially in the agricultural societies
Not exactly a hard rule. And all it takes is a single son in the chain of hundreds of generations to break that "rule" for you to reach completely false conclusions on the culture of all of his descendants. You can use archeogenetics to support already existing historical evidence, but by itself it's not history.
Paleogenetics and archaeology are part of history. No one cares that you're poor and can't afford to buy a dna test
Proves the Chronica Hungarorum was not fake and gay.
Yeah don't care, it's still just astrology for men