Why are Vikings featured in millions of media while nobody knows about Hungarians?

Fair enough, didnt know they made it all the way to spain.

How is that related to this thread?

Same. I think you caught him

Chinese isn't a language, and they also don't.

NTA but that's wrong. I don't even have anything else to say except that is factually, statistically incorrect. English is by a great margin the most spoken language on Earth. Chinese isn't even the largest first language anymore, Indic languages like Hindi are

Cool, go to Chinese IQfy then?

nobody speak chinese, chinese isn't spoken, its barked

>divergence: the process or state of diverging
>diverging: going in different directions
So we agree, it's not an English accomplishment.

>good argument
No, it wouldn't. English dominance isn't because of the Empire, most speakers of English don't have it as an official language in their country. It's even easy to see how it was American media that spread it when most people find the British English funny sounding.

Moving goalposts, your original comment only mentioned popular media, no business or finance and the comment you replied to was talking about number of speakers, nothing else.

>muh roots
Literal cope. You wouldn't have even mentioned business and finance had you actually believed in the drivel you wrote.

Americans = Anglos that sometimes have some other European spice (that applies to the white ones at least)

yes saar
very good saar

*so are most global european languages

>English is dying as a language
lmao as if. sure if you mean local english dialects dying or english being americanized

Consider this: every Magyar tribal name, personal name, and name of office was Turkic, and there is no proof Magyars spoke Hungarian
I'll leave it to you to add 2 plus 2 together

No, you don't get it. Magyars were Turkics who didn't speak Hungarian. They adopted Hungarian in the Carpathian Basin where it was already spoken.

It makes no sense that a bunch of Turkic nomads with Turkic names for everything spoke a Uralic language. It also makes no sense that a smaller invading elite replaces the language of the larger local population.
On the other hand we don't know anything about the language of the Avars, literally nothing. And some Avar artifacts have been proposed to be interpreted as Hungarian.

I see you're another 60 IQ Wikipedia academic

Are you a woman or a troony?

nta, but the current story is fishy. we even see turk names turn into hungarian names over the first century (e.g. Tas disappears, Keve apperas). we have slavic loanwords with sounds that disappeared in slavic before 800. we have countless chronicles calling the invaders 'turks'. we have elements of avar mythology as seen in their archeological heritage (e.g. the csodaszarvas) that aren't 896-turk.
the point I part ways with the dual conquest theory is attributing the language to either wave of avars. I think they were both turks. the language was present before them in the carpathian basin. Vékony Gábor has even come up with hydronymy for which the most likely scenario is a direct dacian-hungarian borrowing.

Good post, you are forgiven.

nah, if he's romanian, he is sawing the branch he's sitting on because all he says imolies that the language and ethnicity was present in the carpathian basin even earlier than thought.

shave your foot tomasescu

I'm Slovak. If what we call Hungarian language today was already in the Carpathian Basin, that doesn't mean much for Hungarian territorial claims. Your people call yourselves Magyars today, and Magyars arrived here in the 9th century. Regardless of what language they spoke or if they adopted the local language.

> N1* is not East Eurasian though
N1c mutation has occurred in southern China
> The swarthier populations in central Asia who are N1* are prescisely darker because of Han mt DNA.
Have you heard of autosomes?

Yes, ethnic Xiongnu conquered the western steppe, r1a/r1b slaves became commoners. Elite burials have haplogroups N1c, Q1b and C2b. Like that -

https://i.imgur.com/ZKyjVB4.jpg

Magyar elite was N1c

. R1a-z93 is also present, but it's much less common. Sorry Timmy, you're not a real steppe chimp

But Pekka, you are the asiatics

Explain Finns having epicanthic folds and explain no other Uralic speakers having blond hair majority.

This is just projection, R1a is practically nonexistent in Finland, while Russia has N1c at least three times more than what Finns have R1a.

In ancient society there was a division into castes, among the steppe peoples the highest caste among Xiongnu etc. was of east eurasian origin with East Eurasian haplogroups, commoners were local conquered peoples, and there were many western lines

> Ethnic Xiongnu elites from the core Xiongnu territory were Q and N. They conquered those groups in the west who had R1a. This is an established view in archaeology.

> Most of those digs were made in the far western edge of modern Mongolia in an area that lies outside of core Xiongnu territory. In fact, the latest of these papers revealed the burial of an actual Xiongnu noble woman, who genetically hailed from this core Xiongnu territory in the east, having local R1a individuals sacrificed as servants. Before you get all railed up though: None of these R1a individuals on the Eastern Steppe were ever "European" or anything close. One has to be seriously delusional to think that.

> In 2012, Chinese researchers published an analysis of the paternal haplogroups of 12 elite Xiongnu male specimens from Heigouliang in Xinjiang, China. Six of the specimens belonged to Q1a, while four belonged to Q1b-M378. 2 belonged to unidentified clades of Q*.[32] In another study, a probable Chanyu of the Xiongnu empire was assigned to haplogroup R1.[33][34]
Now seethe

This is what Finns look like you moron. You are posting actual modern hapas or possibly Sami (recent migrants). The two centre right women in your pic aren't even natural blondes, you can tell from the roots their hair is dyed.

>That is not what ethnic Finno-Ugric speakers look like
Yes it is. Hungarians have blonde people too you coping slit eye.

Explain Finns having epicanthic folds and explain no other Uralic speakers having blond hair majority.

Because our Eastern cousins FRICKED YOUR SHORT HAN PUSSY.

This is proven here

>N1c mutation has occurred in southern China
"We are all out of Africa" tier timelines, this is before the literal hypoboreans evolved blonde hair.

We are all descended from Apes too.

[...]
You Chinks are coping hard. Your women only ever got raped by Steppe peoples, but never vice versa.
>According to Rogers & Kaestle (2022), roughly 47% of Xiongnu paternal haplogroups were of West Eurasian origin, while the rest were of East Asian origin. They observed that this contrasts strongly with the preceding Slab Grave period, which was dominated by East Asian patrilineages. They suggest that this may reflect an aggressive expansion of people with West Eurasian paternal haplogroups, or perhaps the practice of marriage alliances or cultural networks favoring people with Western patrilines.[250]
>A 2003 study found that 89% of Xiongnu maternal lineages are of East Asian origin, while 11% were of West Eurasian origin. However, a 2016 study found that 37.5% of Xiongnu maternal lineages were West Eurasian, in a central Mongolian sample.[246]

. Everyone on the Steppe took turns fricking Han princesses. Literally since the start of the Han dynasty Steppe Chads forced Chinks to give Han princesses as tribute. Fricking Han pussy for millenia eventually turned central Asia darker, while blonde people were found there in Ancient times.

Yes, some Steppe tribes took mercy on Chink boys and added them to their house, but literally in the neolithic there were zero blonde men, then blonde Steppe Chads came and fricked your women in the EBA, every tribe since then is a descendent of that.

But do go on it's funny as frick seeing Han peasants cheer on their rapists. In reality there was a never a Chinese crusade that got past Mongolia, but a near-constant stream of Steppe semen coming into China.

This is what Hungarian women look like. Your pic also just looks Caucasian if anything, not East Eurasian.

There are no Slavs in Hungary, you are coping hard rn.

What is your pic meant to prove? That Hungarians are Europeans? We always knew this. Most Hun warriors are R1b even.

Again you are coping hard because you identify with Steppe peoples who raped your ancestors and then came back West. But they never looked like you at any point. They just raped you.

The Sintasha culture that moved East was very Blonde.

The elites were R1a:
>Gnecchi-Ruscone et al. 2021 analyzed the remains of two elite 4th century Huns from Kazakhstan and Hungary. Their paternal haplogroups were assigned to R1a-Z94 and R1a-Z645.
>One of these Huns carried the maternal haplogroup D4.[145]
>he next year, Gnecchi-Ruscone et al. 2022 examined a 5th-century male from Árpás, Hungary.[146] He belonged to paternal haplogroup R1a-Y57 and maternal haplogroup H5,[f] and clustered closely with West Eurasians.[147]

>some archaeologists have argued that archaeological finds have failed to prove that the Huns had any "Mongoloid" features at all,[46] and some scholars have argued that the Huns were predominantly "Caucasian" in appearance.[47]

>In the same year Keyser et al. 2020 examined 52 Xiongnu skeletal remains and found that the Xiongnu shared paternal (R1a1a1b2a-Z94, R1a1a1b2a2-Z2124, Q1a and N1a) and maternal haplotypes with the Huns, and suggested on this basis that the Huns were descended from Xiongnu, who they in turn suggested were descended from Scytho-Siberians.[d]
>Minority of Q1a sublades from Sarmatians

Remember the Xiongnu? See

>N1c mutation has occurred in southern China
"We are all out of Africa" tier timelines, this is before the literal hypoboreans evolved blonde hair.

We are all descended from Apes too.

[...]
You Chinks are coping hard. Your women only ever got raped by Steppe peoples, but never vice versa.
>According to Rogers & Kaestle (2022), roughly 47% of Xiongnu paternal haplogroups were of West Eurasian origin, while the rest were of East Asian origin. They observed that this contrasts strongly with the preceding Slab Grave period, which was dominated by East Asian patrilineages. They suggest that this may reflect an aggressive expansion of people with West Eurasian paternal haplogroups, or perhaps the practice of marriage alliances or cultural networks favoring people with Western patrilines.[250]
>A 2003 study found that 89% of Xiongnu maternal lineages are of East Asian origin, while 11% were of West Eurasian origin. However, a 2016 study found that 37.5% of Xiongnu maternal lineages were West Eurasian, in a central Mongolian sample.[246]

Literally West Eurasian men raped Han princesses and the only thing that is even remotely East Asian in Steppe warriors is the maternal Han DNA from your women (which made them shorter lol; that's why they lost)

What about him, he looks European with Siberian Steppe DNA?

Here's more Hungarians, also without the Gypsy admixture averages.

If they had Chink DNA they would have zero blondes, be shorter like Chinks and have ricedicks.

> In 2012, Chinese researchers published an analysis of the paternal haplogroups of 12 elite Xiongnu male specimens from Heigouliang in Xinjiang, China. Six of the specimens belonged to Q1a, while four belonged to Q1b-M378. 2 belonged to unidentified clades of Q*.[32] In another study, a probable Chanyu of the Xiongnu empire was assigned to haplogroup R1.[33][34]
Now seethe

https://i.imgur.com/hzpJrKC.png

The frequency of paternal haplogroups in the Hungarian Conqueror samples

Lmao, Finnish cuckboy (or more probably fennoswede israelite) got BTFO

No, don't be disingenuous, it's Russians who are basically Finns, as reflected in that chart. Otherwise you would see Finns clustering with Poles, Czechs, etc.

Crying samegay rapebaby identifying with his daddy that raped his mommy and killed her husband lmao you limpwristed ricedick.

He looks like a typical Central ASIAN, with a round skull and massive epicanthic folds, and Central ASIANS look like that because of their EAST ASIAN admixture. Now whether you are fennoswede or slavshit, you should kys either way

This is what those who raped all the white women in ancient finland looked like. This is how the N1c finns appeared. Self-humiliating finn itt is the rapebaby of this noble Han king

chink what are you doing

>That is not what ethnic Finno-Ugric speakers look like
This is what ethnic Finnic people looked like.

RUS_Ingria_IA,0.1234985,0.1152625,0.0961655,0.091732,0.0450855,0.0376505,0.012103,0.022268,-0.0010225,-0.0380875,0.00203,-0.015661,0.029063,0.0364015,-0.0095685,-0.0106735,-0.009518,0.00095,0.0027025,-0.001251,-0.005116,-0.004328,0.006532,-0.0107245,-0.0026345

These people brought the N1c paternal lines to Finland, and they had even less Siberian admixture than modern Finns.

Pretty sure it was a troll post.

> chinese scientists identify haplogroups
> haplogroups isn't even mainstream in china
> damn, they're chinese, so it's all a lie!
You're fingolian swine raped by chinks, what are you talking about, Han chinese is your mongoloid rice brothers, you yellow ugly piece of shit

Like all CCP funded papers this is written in a typical style to placate ricedicks.

The reality is that the grave rhey found is a Han princess with her R1a husband and children.

There were no Western genes there before, but Western men displaced Eastern men and the maternal DNA remained unchanged. This is how they made it palatable for the CCP while still admitting the basic reality that West Eurasians came in, killed half the men and then raped the women.

The other elite male burial:
>SBB010
>grave goods: (5) iron disc and crescent representing sun and moon (a symbol of the Xiongnu empire); (4) bone bow strengthener plates; (7) arrow shafts; (8) bone chopsticks; (9) bone tube with iron needle inside; (10) gold foil ornamentation
>Y-DNA C2b1a1b (C-F1756)
>MtDNA H7b

I don't really care about Chinks, they are a slave race whose only purpose is to serve their Turko-Mongolian-Finno-Japanese masters.

Here is the qoute from the paper (Chinese authors):
>We observe a clear signal of male-biased WSH admixture among the EIA Sagly/Uyuk and during the Türkic period (i.e., more positive Z scores; Figure 5B), which also corresponds to the decline in the Y chromosome lineage Q1a and the concomitant rise of the western Eurasian lineages such as R and J (Figure S2A). During the later Khitan and Mongol empires, we observe a prominent male bias for East Asian-related ancestry (Figure S2C), which can also be seen from the rise in frequency of Y chromosome lineage O2a (Figure S2A).
>We found that the Eastern Steppe was populated by hunter-gatherers of ANA and ANE ancestry during the mid-Holocene and then shifted to a dairy pastoralist economy during the Bronze Age.
Also Europeans probably taught East Asians metalworking and introduced pastorialism, horseriding and the wheel:
>Genenetic links to the European Corded Ware cultures (Mathieson et al., 2015), were masters of bronze metallurgy and chariotry (Anthony, 2010), and the appearance of this ancestry on the Eastern Steppe may be linked to the introduction of new (especially horse-related) technologies.
Basically before there were no West Eurasians, then a people of pure West Eurasian breed came in and raped the women of the Slab Grave culture, and the East Asian paternal genes dramatically declined, with no change in local maternal genes. This is also corroborated by other papers:

Cont.

>According to Rogers & Kaestle (2022), roughly 47% of Xiongnu paternal haplogroups were of West Eurasian origin, while the rest were of East Asian origin. They observed that this contrasts strongly with the preceding Slab Grave period, which was dominated by East Asian patrilineages. They suggest that this may reflect an aggressive expansion of people with West Eurasian paternal haplogroups, or perhaps the practice of marriage alliances or cultural networks favoring people with Western patrilines.[250].

Picrel literally shows the gene gradient that flowed. Sintasha = pure blonde people from the CWC, this picrel culture was already hapa from raping East Asian women though.

This. However people cope there is no denying there was only East Eurasians before in the neolithic, but since the EBA West Eurasian men came in and bred the local women spawning the happas that would become Mongols, Turks etc.

But Attila was also a Hun